I don’t get people on Pike- he will be gone if we finish below .500

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

There is no one defending Pike right now and between the lack of accountability on the players part, his lack of control, the inane rotations, the long term portal and recruiting failures, there is no way that he is going to - forgetting about this season (which is a lost cause) -to succeed long term.

I don’t care who’s in charge of athletics and the university. I can’t believe that we would be stuck with Pikell two more years if this season ends like we know it will. Someone - donors, the university, whatever - will end it and get the money needed to say goodbye to this underachieving and overpaid coach.

 

[shields]

Lou do you have a million to give?

 

[RUskoolie]

He won't be fired with no AD and no President but he will be on thin ice next season with a new AD looking to put his/her stamp on something.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

He won't be fired with no AD and no President but he will be on thin ice next season with a new AD looking to put his/her stamp on something.

See, this is what I don’t get. There are still people in authority at the university and there are still trustees. You can’t set back the program more by delaying the inevitable. You, me, and anyone who has been watching knows Pike will not succeed long term here.

 

[fluoxetine]

He won't be fired this year and that has nothing to do with my opinion on Pike.

 

[Plum Street]

He won't be fired with no AD and no President but he will be on thin ice next season with a new AD looking to put his/her stamp on something.

I think next year has to go awful to get canned

 

[bac2therac]

There is no one defending Pike right now and between the lack of accountability on the players part, his lack of control, the inane rotations, the long term portal and recruiting failures, there is no way that he is going to - forgetting about this season (which is a lost cause) -to succeed long term.

I don’t care who’s in charge of athletics and the university. I can’t believe that we would be stuck with Pikell two more years if this season ends like we know it will. Someone - donors, the university, whatever - will end it and get the money needed to say goodbye to this underachieving and overpaid coach.

Wrong

 

[Freddy Stubbs]

He won't be fired this year and that has nothing to do with my opinion on Pike.

I agree, but I can't help hoping that he is fed up with the new Era of college basketball and decides to walk away.
IMO, this is the best case scenario for the end of the season.

 

[RUby RED]

I think next year has to go awful to get canned

I mean looking at what we’re slated to have…I’d say awful is my expectation

 

[fluoxetine]

I don't know. The man has shown himself to be a good coach in the past. He's clearly failed the new world of the transfer portal and NIL for two years now, but it was for two different reasons (first year blindsided by leavers, second year appeared to learn his lesson from that but then still a lot of misses here).

There is some chance he can learn to navigate this. There is also a chance he can't, but unless we're going for the big splash hire (we won't) I don't see the harm in burning another year or two to find out.

 

[Scangg]

I agree, but I can't help hoping that he is fed up with the new Era of college basketball and decides to walk away.
IMO, this is the best case scenario for the end of the season.

This might be what's best. Pike is not a good fit for the transfer portal NIL era it seems

We should bring in a GM at least to manage the portal. Pike can't be trusted at this point after this season's disaster portal

 

[cm_13]

See, this is what I don’t get. There are still people in authority at the university and there are still trustees. You can’t set back the program more by delaying the inevitable. You, me, and anyone who has been watching knows Pike will not succeed long term here.

Beyond the fact that an interim AD isn’t going to fire a coach that’s been here for almost ten years, what’s your next move after that? What decent head coach is going to accept the job without even knowing who their boss is going to be next year?

 

[RedTeam1994]

Lou -re “I don’t get people on pike”

I don’t get why you don’t get it

I don’t see many people on here saying pike SHOULD come back but what I do see is people citing the reality of the $$$$ situation

I don’t get how you don’t get that

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

Lou -re “I don’t get people on pike”

I don’t get why you don’t get it

I don’t see many people on here saying pike SHOULD come back but what I do see is people citing the reality of the $$$$ situation

I don’t get how you don’t get that

What will cost more - buying pike out or a long term rebuild that’ll be worse than after Jordan? Where there’s a will there’s a way.

 

[TRU2RU]

Lou is off his meds again!!! Show me a coach that will take the job after he looks at what RU has in it's NIL pool!!!

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

Lou is off his meds again!!! Show me a coach that will take the job after he looks at what RU has in it's NIL pool!!!

Trust me. If we get the right coach the NIL money will increase.

 

[stribucher]

Contract out to 2029 - 2030. That is major $$$ to make him go away.

Head Men’s Basketball Coach Steve Pikiell Signs Contract Extension Through 2029-30 Season - Rutgers University Athletics

scarletknights.com

 

[The RUT]

I’ve been shouting from the rooftops about this for 3 years or so.

Literally nothing has changed other than putting together an offensive focused roster that magnifies his flaws.

If next years team is defense focused there will be a renewed faith in coach and he will buy himself another few years IMO.

Going to be interesting to watch this one play out.

 

[SirScarlet]

I’ve been shouting from the rooftops about this for 3 years or so.

Literally nothing has changed other than putting together an offensive focused roster that magnifies his flaws.

If next years team is defense focused there will be a renewed faith in coach and he will buy himself another few years IMO.

Going to be interesting to watch this one play out.

Horse poop.

You and a few others were shouting that he was a bad coach before college basketball and college sports in general turned on its head. When the sport was still able to support a developmental program he was a damn good coach and there is no doubt in my mind that while his offensive philosophy is limited his approach would yield sweet 16s every few years or so.

However things are so dramatically different that I am not sure a guy with his approach can be successful nowadays.

That does not mean you were right 3 years ago. You happen to be right now but you were completely wrong in your reasoning.

said differently a broken clock is right twice a day. So, congrats.

 

[JudgeSmails56]

Lou is off his meds again!!! Show me a coach that will take the job after he looks at what RU has in it's NIL pool!!!

how much do we have? apparently you know.

 

[BOGDANOVICH]

Horse poop.

You and a few others were shouting that he was a bad coach before college basketball and college sports in general turned on its head. When the sport was still able to support a developmental program he was a damn good coach and there is no doubt in my mind that while his offensive philosophy is limited his approach would yield sweet 16s every few years or so.

However things are so dramatically different that I am not sure a guy with his approach can be successful nowadays.

That does not mean you were right 3 years ago. You happen to be right now but you were completely wrong in your reasoning.

said differently a broken clock is right twice a day. So, congrats.

A developmental program cannot succeed in the current transfer portal environment.

 

[SirScarlet]

A developmental program cannot succeed in the current transfer portal environment.

Agree

 

[The RUT]

Horse poop.

You and a few others were shouting that he was a bad coach before college basketball and college sports in general turned on its head. When the sport was still able to support a developmental program he was a damn good coach and there is no doubt in my mind that while his offensive philosophy is limited his approach would yield sweet 16s every few years or so.

However things are so dramatically different that I am not sure a guy with his approach can be successful nowadays.

That does not mean you were right 3 years ago. You happen to be right now but you were completely wrong in your reasoning.

said differently a broken clock is right twice a day. So, congrats.

The problems you’re seeing today are the same problems that were happening 3 years ago.

The only reason it’s an issue for people today is because we have two NBA kids on our team so people can’t yell it’s a talent issue.

Complaints about recruiting, lack of offensive sets, and players leading the ship.

 

[TRU2RU]

how much do we have? apparently you know.

Not enough to get any replacement for Cliff or to keep him

 

[TRU2RU]

Trust me. If we get the right coach the NIL money will increase.

I don’t trust you because you are totally clueless & there will NOT be enough NIL money to interest any decent coac, even though Pike is not going anywhere

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

We will see .

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

OP stating that the next coach will inherit something worse than post Eddie Jordan shows what an unhinged numbskull he is.

But he's made a 🤡 of himself nearly a thousand times with these off base takes.

 

[soundcrib]

Contract out to 2029 - 2030. That is major $$$ to make him go away.

Head Men’s Basketball Coach Steve Pikiell Signs Contract Extension Through 2029-30 Season - Rutgers University Athletics

scarletknights.com

😩mg he's extended out to 2🤮3🤪.

 

[KK1827]

He gets at minimum two more years. He had a couple good weeks and as was the case with hobbs after a couple good weeks hed be ready to extend you to a lifetime contract with a massive buy-out

 

[Knight Shift]

Others have noticed this, but looking at his record, he peaked in 2021-22, and he has been on a downward trajectory since.
His conference record is nearly perfectly parabolic and trending back down in the same pattern on the upward trend. That's pretty wild and scary.:

3-15
3-15
7-13
11-9
10-10
12-8
10-10
7-13
1-3 so far (hopefully not 3-15)

 

[DHajekRC84]

Contract out to 2029 - 2030. That is major $$$ to make him go away.

Head Men’s Basketball Coach Steve Pikiell Signs Contract Extension Through 2029-30 Season - Rutgers University Athletics

scarletknights.com

Fvcking Hobbs.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Horse poop.

You and a few others were shouting that he was a bad coach before college basketball and college sports in general turned on its head. When the sport was still able to support a developmental program he was a damn good coach and there is no doubt in my mind that while his offensive philosophy is limited his approach would yield sweet 16s every few years or so.

However things are so dramatically different that I am not sure a guy with his approach can be successful nowadays.

That does not mean you were right 3 years ago. You happen to be right now but you were completely wrong in your reasoning.

said differently a broken clock is right twice a day. So, congrats.

LOL.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Others have noticed this, but looking at his record, he peaked in 2021-22, and he has been on a downward trajectory since.
His conference record is nearly perfectly parabolic and trending back down in the same pattern on the upward trend. That's pretty wild and scary.:

3-15 1-1
3-15 2-1
7-13 0-1
11-9 0-0 (covid)
10-10 2-2
12-8 0-2
10-10 1-2
7-13 0-1
1-3 so far (hopefully not 3-15)

added the BTT and other tourneys in there. 1 and 5 last 3 seasons.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

You guys are wrong. This season is a disaster but as someone else pointed out, ironically the last game showed that Pike stillmay have what it takes to coach his defensive style. He’s adjusted that for Dylan and Ace this season included the way he recruited. Last year’s disaster was a different type of situation where he was scrambling last minute when players he thought were returning burned us.

Hes going to get one more chance and it’ll be an effort to restore his defense first culture and recruit a roster full of players who fit his style first and foremost. If he fails again, he’ll be gone. But he’s built enough real estate to get one more crack at righting the ship. Not every coach was meant to navigate one and dones and we probably were never going to become a one and done factory anyway.

 

[NY AGENTMAN]

I like Pike followed him even at Stony Brook but he has done a terrible job this year! He is a good coach but the team chemistry on the court has been awful the last 2 years. He is better with underrated guys he can coach up than stars. Hope he turns it around

 

[bethlehemfan]

Agree

I believe it can if the nil money is focused on A - retention and B - one or two key additions per year. You still need a big purse but Wisconsin as an example who we just played has key pieces that either have developed or are developing there.

 

[gregkoko]

You guys are wrong. This season is a disaster but as someone else pointed out, ironically the last game showed that Pike stillmay have what it takes to coach his defensive style. He’s adjusted that for Dylan and Ace this season included the way he recruited. Last year’s disaster was a different type of situation where he was scrambling last minute when players he thought were returning burned us.

Hes going to get one more chance and it’ll be an effort to restore his defense first culture and recruit a roster full of players who fit his style first and foremost. If he fails again, he’ll be gone. But he’s built enough real estate to get one more crack at righting the ship. Not every coach was meant to navigate one and dones and we probably were never going to become a one and done factory anyway.

There was a good article in the Athletic yesterday about Auburn's offensive coordinator with a telling quote

Meet 30-year-old Auburn men’s basketball play caller who helped build nation’s No. 1 offense

Ahead of its Tuesday game at Texas, No. 2 Auburn leads the country in adjusted offensive efficiency, per KenPom, a first in program history.

www.nytimes.com

Asked how Burgomaster has maximized his offense, Pearl thinks back to something Chicago Bulls coach Billy Donovan told him years ago, when Pearl was at Tennessee and Donovan was at Florida.

“Almost everybody can coach defense, because you get them to play hard and physically,” Pearl remembers. “But the great ones are the ones that can run stuff that’s hard to guard — and not all really good coaches are great offensive coaches. So Mike’s ability is a separator.”