This is what being Giants fan lead to me doing a couple of years ago. When they drafted Daniel Jones no. 6 I was done with them. Why am I putting myself through this? When a organization doesn't do anything I approve of why support them? Always will root for Rutgers though lol,.. special kind of underdog here.
I might as well “adopt” a different team each year
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I follow the teams
RU #1
LOC #2
ASU #3
St. Peter's #4
Players come and go and only care about them when they're on the roster.
Hit the portal and they don't count and don't care how they play for their new program., just wish them to be injury free .
I look at college players like pros now and when my favorite pro team trades a player, I might wish them well, but not against the team I root for or do anything that will cause my team to lose a chance for preseason play .
Being loyal is not to be expected in today's college game, just like keeping under performing players was something college fan-bases frown upon even when the transfer rules were in the schools favor and many fans were happy to see the underachiever go somewhere else..
We can talk about the joy of seeing a player develop but forget about wanting a player not producing to be pushed out so better talent could take their spot.
RU #1
LOC #2
ASU #3
St. Peter's #4
Players come and go and only care about them when they're on the roster.
Hit the portal and they don't count and don't care how they play for their new program., just wish them to be injury free .
I look at college players like pros now and when my favorite pro team trades a player, I might wish them well, but not against the team I root for or do anything that will cause my team to lose a chance for preseason play .
Being loyal is not to be expected in today's college game, just like keeping under performing players was something college fan-bases frown upon even when the transfer rules were in the schools favor and many fans were happy to see the underachiever go somewhere else..
We can talk about the joy of seeing a player develop but forget about wanting a player not producing to be pushed out so better talent could take their spot.
If producing champions is a big deal to you, you probably don't go to Rutgers. The result is an alumni that don't really care that much about something that in the larger scheme of things is not all that important. It's self perpetuating. The definitional Rutgers Screw.
I’m guessing they’d have to backload most of the money into the second year of such contracts, so if you leave you forfeit that money. The next team could pay that amount unless there are buyout rules and penalties that make it prohibitive.
Do you think an NIL agent is going to agree to that when the schools have no leverage?
The only way that I see that happens is if it's guaranteed money and even then I don't see agents advising their clients to do it.
The downside is If the player flops you're stuck paying it. So just think that if RU did that type of contract with Gavin Griffiths they would have been stuck keeping him on the roster and paying him a much larger amount in the 2nd year. Thanks, no thanks.
On your last point I would think the 2-year contracts that are backloaded to the second year would be used for proven college players versus high school recruits, but who knows.
I'm not sure a proven player would even entertain that type of contract. They want to get paid now not later.
I'm becoming more and more of an SDSU fan living in San Diego and going to a bunch of games each season
They managed to somehow lure Gwath back from the portal and Kentucky so their NIL must be better than ours
Like the Ivies are so innocent. We hired loads of their football and other sport team people over the years. Many were being supported with almost no show jobs while playing. Just " white collar," cheating. Might as well root for the real big time.
His time, his money, his choice.
He's not alone in turning further away from big time college sports.
Man, if I lived in San Diego I’d be right there with you (have wanted to relocate there since my first visit in the 1980s, could never quite make it happen).
But going to some SDSU games while living out there would be very cool. And by adopting them as a means of just enjoying college hoops, would make it all the better.
As many have said ,just do it-- and spare us -- and move to the "PU" board. We've already have heard all the reasons .The truth is however , that you're also giving up on RU..Farewell. Root for the Ivies they'll welcome you with open arms, who really cares.
The RU administration and coaches have failed to adapt to the competitive environment for 4 decades.
i mean, that was the norm for a lot of people and we weren't even getting paid back in the 80s
The Knicks during the Ewing era were so much fun. Thats the last time I followed the NBA
This is one of the most depressing threads for me among 100s of depressing threads...BillyC80 pretty much throwing in the towel on any future optimism for RU basketball. He is a poster that always could seemingly find something positive even in the worst games or events. To see/hear fans like him and many, MANY others here, having difficulty finding anything positive or, at least, humorous about RU Bball....well, it's like losing a therapist(s) for me lol! Hopefully, something good is coming down the pike 😁 (pun totally intended!). Thank you all for all the psychological support you have provided me over the past years!! Go RU!
Not sure what "well coached and play a certain style" has to do with roster turnover.
If Princeton had all new players, but beat Rutgers in the exact same game - would you not have felt the same?
Rutgers could have an entire roster of 5th year players all at Rutgers for their career but be poorly coached and play a style you may not like.
So which is it?
Fun fact: Ewing was on the Knicks for 15 years. He only spent 4 at Georgetown.
If people actually prefer roster stability, college sports and the 4 year limit isn't the place.
Not to mention how often coaches push out underperforming players.
If Jalen Miller signs a 4 year contract with a professional team and under performs, people would get their wish and likely watch him struggle for 4 years instead of being able to upgrade immediately.
4 years of Jalen Miller, Antonio Chol and Woolf are going to make people long for the days when players weren't under contracts and programs could move on quickly..
It keeps both the good and the bad players around.
Ask Phoenix Suns fans how they feel about Bradley Beal being locked into a contract.
Nets couldn't get rid of Ben Simmons fast enough.
I think Pike is a very good coach whose teams excel when they buy into his defense-first mantra. As Pike said on day one, “Defense wins games, offense determines by how much.”
But that defensive buy-in is hard to get, and excel in, when the players are only with a coach like Pike for one year.
So, to answer your question, it’s both — because coaching and the team’s playing style is more effective and fun to watch when everyone knows their roles and are on the same page.
That could happen with all new players every year, and I’ll still be rooting for Pike to pull it off, while I take a rooting interest in some other programs as well.
Precisely why I said maybe two years. This way there is some type of commitment / continuity without long term commitment. It’s not prefect but better than an 80% roster turnover every single year. You really can’t compare ncaa or nba contracts (yet) I think that if you paid someone 200k and you don’t want him the second year a booster comes along and pays him to go away.
Idk what the change will be in NIL but it will level out.
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