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I STILL support Coach Flood. Do you ?

If I had kids who were athletes I'd have no issue with them playing for Coach Flood. There's a lot of dirt bag coaches out there but he isn't one of them. You can preach until you're blue in the face but ultimately these guys are adults who make their own decisions. A coach can't watch over his players 24 7.
 
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When Shiano was coach, players were under close scrutiny, monitored much of the time, had to sit in the front rows in every class, for example, etcetera. This does not happen any more. Flood has loosened the reins considerably to the detriment of the players and the program. Support him? What does that even mean? One hopes he comes out of this okay, but his approach and lax discipline may have contributed to the current fiasco.
 
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well zap--if you read board and recall what has been said in the past--most of the current flood naysayers were there before these current events and this is just an excuse to pile on
 
I dunno. I was rooting for USF to win in 2013 so that Flood would get fired. If the ends justify the means, I would root against RU. For the greater good of the program.

If you can't find a reason to fire a coach and have to drum up fake reasons to get rid of one like we did with Gary Waters and FHJ you are in the wrong business.
 
If you had a kid that was a quarterback would you send him to play for flood?

I would worry about him getting a fair shake, not based on conjecture, but based upon what I have seen
 
Yes, of course I support Coach Flood and staff. He's a good coach and getting better in his role. He'll be coach for a number of years to come. The whole email issue is complete nonsense. As for the number of players arrested and either dismissed or suspended from the program, it happens everywhere. In a 5 year period the University of Florida had 80 players investigated for serious crimes. Unfortunately, it's become an epidemic among our young athletes across the country and affects all college programs.

The hard part of this is Flood's recruiting message has always involved selling parents and recruits in a vision larger than just football such as becoming an adult, the value of a strong education, unbreakable family bonds. This message for the short term will take a major hit.
 
Coach Flood has my full support....he is a good coach, and getting better....and he is a great man of the highest moral values.
I keep hearing that mantra repeated "great man of the highest moral values" in many different ways. Is that supposed to trump any deficiencies?
Are we repeating what others have said or do you know that he does things that other coaches don't do that make him "great" in the values department?
 
I keep hearing that mantra repeated "great man of the highest moral values" in many different ways. Is that supposed to trump any deficiencies?
Are we repeating what others have said or do you know that he does things that other coaches don't do that make him "great" in the values department?


Who said what I said is meant to trump deficiencies....and who said it needs to?

Flood is 24-17 as a coach, not exactly sucking it. It's not like his great traits are masking a losing career.

He has grown as a coach, and I believe will continue to do so.

As far as being a great man and representative of RU, He loves his university, He loves his players, he cares deeply about the players take their academics seriously.

He doesn't cut corners. With the exception of this email shit which is severely overblown, he has always represented Rutgers extremely well. He's always been a bright spot, and will be again once this all blows over.

He doesn't embarrass players or his assistant coaches. He is a family man who you'd trust your own son to play for any day.

You're nuts if you think most caches fill all those traits.

I want him to succeed, and I still believe he will. While he is our coach, he has my full blown support. None of those players' actions are his fault. He continuously tells them to keep their noses clean. He brings in NFL guys and NFL coaches who tell the players to keep their noses clean.

He can't live their lives for them. He is doing pretty much everything short of that to keep them on the straight and narrow.
 
When Shiano was coach, players were under close scrutiny, monitored much of the time, had to sit in the front rows in every class, for example, etcetera. This does not happen any more. Flood has loosened the reins considerably to the detriment of the players and the program. Support him? What does that even mean? One hopes he comes out of this okay, but his approach and lax discipline may have contributed to the current fiasco.
On face value that is pretty damning.
 
My feeling is that he will be let go at the end of the year. On the boards, we like to talk about recruiting wins/losses, disciplined play, clock management, depth chart choices and so forth when we talk about the head coach. It's football, this is what's important to us. On the other hand, the administration only looks at three things: reputation, revenue and record. Right now, we have serious reputation issues. Barchi/BOG would rather overreact this time than make the same perception blunder they did in Mike Rice's case. An added plus for Julie is that if she fires the coach, she distances herself from the stain and gets to make her own hire. Frankly, I think he's lasted this long only because of budget concerns. After the last five weeks, I don't see a way Kyle can save his job, short of winning the B10 East, which isn't gonna happen.

Do I support him? Sure, he's our football coach. Do I think he's the best guy for the job? Absolutely not.Will we get a better guy in the present environment? Unless Charlie Strong gets fired in Texas, probably not, but I think they're going to try.
 
Enough with the Charlie Strong talk who so far has been a colossal flop. Teddy Bridgewater graduated and making Mack Brown look awfully good.
 
i'm still pissed about the choke job against lousville and one legged bridgewater

Yes, that and the fact we blew the final 2 games that season to get to the BCS game.
Only had to win One.
That team, with 7 NFL draft picks , looked absolutely unprepared for the game at PITT.
 
One thing Is for sure....flood is learning a lot about how to deal with media in tough spots

This will help him, the program and the School as we go along

There is never been a coach here who has handled the media in tough spots anywhere as close to as well as he has...
 
If you had a kid that was a quarterback would you send him to play for flood?

I would worry about him getting a fair shake, not based on conjecture, but based upon what I have seen

How's this for conjecture. If Flood doesn't win this year, he's fired. You don't think he's fully and fairly evaluated qb position to determine which gives him the best chance of keeping his job? Pardon my conjecture, but I do not understand what else could possibly be his motivation.
 
sorry no kool aid over here. I do NOT support Kyle Flood.
  • win/loss record deceptively bloated with 18 pancake matches in career (team being 4-8 or worse)
  • history of awful personnel decisions (Nova, Cooper, Wright, Laviano, Deering, Snyder, etc...)
  • history of stupid playcalling without fixing mistakes (remember guys this is a coach that did a fake punt on his own 35 on a 4th and 10 against MI!!!)
  • stubborn, stubborn, stubborn
  • defense ranked 90th or worse in most categories last 3 years. look it up
  • has 0 d-1 experience coaching besides rutgers
  • has 0 d-1 experience being a coordinator on his own (co-OC laughable)
  • can't hold onto a coordinator for 4 straight years except for over-his-head Rossi (1 for 8)
  • obviously has poor discipline over team - just wants to be liked
the list goes on and on guys.

Time to stop the bleeding.
 
Reluctantly, no.
I understand, you must take a chance on some recruits/players, but too many chances taken, and too little action taken with issues within the team.
Recruit problems, and look the other way,(everyone on a team knows, all about the bad guys), comes due.
On, the field ongoing stuborness about who starts.
Coach Flood, I do not doubt, is a nice man... but, not the right man overall. IMHO.
 
nope, never have, likely never will...
we won't ever take the next step with him here, stealing money...

we should all hope to suck at what we do and then get promoted to head job simply becuase he was last man standing, or in this case, because the 1 coach I wanted Schiano to take to Tampa he didn't...
 
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