If Pikiell gets fired, Schiano should go with him

[RUGiddy777]

Am I the only one that realizes - you can't completely count Pike out? Like he could legit turn this around, and this season ends in satisfying fashion

But on the other end. We can ALWAYS count Schiano out. Like your expectations for him should ALWAYS be low. Whether it's the big east, Tampa, a stacked squad Ohio St squad, Rutgers again. Schiano will always be lackluster - one good season his whole coaching career. Even that one good season, was against a cake schedule - and he still failed at the end -- losing to a freshman back up QB.

I agree with the first, disagree with the second. My point is that expectations for Pike are higher - but part of that is that he’s done so well. Greg is doing a great job.

 

[kt124]

Am I the only one that realizes - you can't completely count Pike out? Like he could legit turn this around, and this season ends in satisfying fashion

we’ve never comfortably made the tournament under pike, never gotten to the second weekend. best outcome in his 8 years is an appearance in the round of 32. we’ve had as many seasons where we stumbled at the end and missed the tournament as we’ve had seasons making the tournament. i’m disregarding the comparison to schiano because i don’t care about that. i’m just sick of some fans’ blind loyalty to pike when he’s done very little to deserve it.

 

[biazza38]

Am I the only one that realizes - you can't completely count Pike out? Like he could legit turn this around, and this season ends in satisfying fashion

But on the other end. We can ALWAYS count Schiano out. Like your expectations for him should ALWAYS be low. Whether it's the big east, Tampa, a stacked squad Ohio St squad, Rutgers again. Schiano will always be lackluster - one good season his whole coaching career. Even that one good season, was against a cake schedule - and he still failed at the end -- losing to a freshman back up QB.

I like Pike as a coach. But maybe don’t put yourself in a hole by losing to Q3/Q4 opponents every year. Let’s try that, for once!!

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

He did well in 2018 with a top 30 class on here (Ron, Tez, Caleb).

I don’t recall any of those guys being that highly ranked as recruits but I could be wrong.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I realize that Schiano is a dud. And that next year his football team will be awful

Wow. You can debate a lot about the two of them but the 2025 outlook for football sure looks brighter than for basketball. I’m not sure how anyone could argue otherwise.

 

[fluoxetine]

I don’t recall any of those guys being that highly ranked as recruits but I could be wrong.

Okay, I found the team rankings on Rivals. He is right that class was #28.

RHJ was 4-star, #136
Mathis was 4-star, #108
Carter and McConnell were 3-stars

Other Pike recruiting classes according to Rivals:
2019 #71
2020 #20
2021 #70
2022 #48
2023 #27
2024 #2
2025 (currently) #34

 

[RUGiddy777]

Wow. You can debate a lot about the two of them but the 2025 outlook for football sure looks brighter than for basketball. I’m not sure how anyone could argue otherwise.

Is the 2025 outlook any better than 6-6/7-5 and a third tier bowl game?

No one can count on returners anymore, but assuming no departures, Pike still will have a squad with 3 4*s (5,4,2), a bunch of returning talent and minutes/money to offer in the portal.