If Rutgers goes 19-15, I think we get a bid.

[bac2therac]

This one also a bad argument for "no contingency backets" because they needed the contingency anyway. They were already forced to consider that game, it wouldn't have been any more difficult to seed them 11th.

Er.. I just looked it up and they were an 11 seed.

My bad...i knew there was something funky with them and went back and checked...they were an 11 seed BUT actually on the seed list were behind 3 of the first four schools if that makes sense. That to me indicate they were not valued and only were getting in on a contingency bracket

March Madness 2022: Committee reveals official NCAA Tournament bracket seed list from 1-68

A look at the NCAA Men's Basketball Selection Committee's ranking of the entire tournament field

www.cbssports.com

 

[bac2therac]

For fun let’s say Rutgers finishes 17-14.. wins 3 in the tourney and ends at 20-15. Does the committee factor in that Dylan missed a handful of big ten games?

Some consideration yes

 

[bac2therac]

Yes, if you are in at 18-13 then 17-14 is only 1 game out. You aren't "creating a resume" you can easily move from 1 game out to in over the span of 4 games.. if those games count.

One game is a big difference right on the bubble

It will be for a 17-14 OSU team and they will need to win their 1st big 10 tourney gane

 

[bac2therac]

Also it was said New Mexico wasn't making the NCAA tourney if they didn't win the MWC finals last year

 

[bac2therac]

Providence made a strong run in Big East tourney reaching the semi finals and was left out with 6 quad 1 wins

 

[Caliknight]

One thing I’ll say is if we can win some games to get on the bubble I’d like our chances. The basketball world knows we have to lottery picks abs wants to see them.

 

[ScarletDave]

There is no chance because we lost to Princeton (Q3 Neutral) and Kennessaw (Q3 lucky not Q4). There’s no erasing those when there are only enough games in the scenario of not winning the BTT to go 20-15. 20-15 with 2 of those losses to Princeton and KSU is NOT an at large resume period, full stop, so there is mathematically no choice but to win the BTT even if we finish the regular season under .500 (likely)

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Providence made a strong run in Big East tourney reaching the semi finals and was left out with 6 quad 1 wins

Meh. Not really. Beating Georgetown last year meant nothing. So what they really did was beat the one good team they had already beaten once in the season again before losing (Creighton). That also seems to be a bit of a “thing”. The committee isn’t usually impressed by a stack of wins against the same team if you don’t have much else. Match up considerations are real.

Virginia Tech might not have had a single win over the field until the ACC tournament. They actually deserved only an 11 seed inclusive of those 2 big wins in the conf tournament. Had they played weaker teams along the path they might’ve been a 13.

All this said - after glancing at the bubble, I agree with you that 20-15 would still be a major long shot. But not because 3 of the wins wouldn’t count. Even with them mattering, I think we’d need too much help not only from the current bubble but also the fringe bubble ahead of us. Too many of those teams will collect wins simply by playing eachother.