Is Ollie in any trouble at UConn ?
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Knee,didn't he just sign a five year contract with a pretty big buyout clause.Besides,unless UConn gets into the ACC or takes football down to 1 AA and goes back to the Big East it looks their ship is sinking. The money they get from TV can't even be in the ballpark with ours in the Big Ten.
Yup. UConn fans are done with him but they don't exactly have $14 million laying around to buy out him and his assistants and hire a new coach.
And for as much as we like Pikiell, there'd be a riot if they hired a coach coming off back-to-back 3-15 B1G seasons.
UConn would have to quit football to even have a prayer of buying out Ollie and his assistants and then have enough money to buy RU out for the rights to Pike and his staff.
I would tend to agree that if UConn decided to make a move and thus committed pay off Ollie, than presumably they are going for a better resume than Pike's to replace him.
he needs to be fired but they are stuck with no money, just desserts for them, they NEVER should have chased that football dream. Not sure what type of coach they can land at UConn, not being in a Power 5 is an issue.They can certainly win in that league but Ollie proving that the UConn name was basically all Calhoun and that the schools reputation as a power had nothing to do with the name UConn..going forward they are just another Temple or SMU in that league, another name, not a blueblood
Probably not, but keep in mind in fairness the BE at the time pledged commitment to each other and right after that is when the defections started.
In addition they NEVER should have built an awful stadium 30 miles off campus. That makes them SOOO much more unattractive.
We very easily could be UConn. Thank you greg schiano , bob mulchahy and Jim Delaney that we aren’t.
they never had the base to do it really....remember Villanova was ohsoclose to doing this as well. They need to cut the losses and go back to the Big East where their history and fanbase can factor in. It must be some kick in the Nuts for the Huskie fans in Storrs to watch them play the likes of Tulsa and Tulane in a home stretch
we could but we are not, I do not feel sorry for UConn at all, they benefitted fron the Big East while RU hoops died. RU had chased the dream longer than Uconn trying to upgrade in the late 70s so we were at a higher starting point than them and we had a natural recruiting base that they will never have
I can't see them giving up football. They would lose out on potentially winning the Civil Conflict Trophy every year.
UConn has always been a tweener - too big for 1AA not big enough for div 1.
Big East Football needed them at the time and they stepped up.
AAC not a bad BBall conf - and a decent fit for UConn.
Big East Football needed them at the time and they stepped up.
AAC not a bad BBall conf - and a decent fit for UConn.
Assuming the Big East would even have UConn, there is still the problem of what to do with the football program. There is unlikely to be another conference willing to take UConn FB without their others sports. And UConn FB doesn't have enough panache to try to go independent.
Dropping from FBS to FCS is an expensive choice.
FCS is typically cheaper because you can get away with a smaller stadium. It was ultimately the stadium cost that prevented Villanova from seriously considering the step up. But UConn already built the stadium. FBS or FCS is cost-neutral here.
FCS is also cheaper because you have 23 fewer scholarships. But as I've often repeated on these boards, scholarships are funny money; they are the money the athletic department pays the university to educate student-athletes. But the athletic department pays the full tuition price. It doesn't actually cost the university the full tuition cost to educate an incremental student.
In reality, the total cost difference FCS and FBS (excluding the facility costs that UConn already spent) is only about $500K to $1MM per year. But the drop to FCS also comes with a huge loss in revenue in terms of ticket sales, conference money (both TV and bowl shares), and the ability to charge more for bought games. That loss in revenue easily exceeds the increased cost. (Just on ticket sales alone, UConn would take a huge hit in lost revenue. Last year, UConn has atrocious attendance of about 20.3K. But that is still much better than the 9.6K they had in their last year of D1AA or the 10.7K UMass saw last year. If UConn drops to FCS and their attendance drops to 12K, that will cost them more than $1.4 million just in ticket sales, assuming no drop in ticket prices. If ticket prices drop with a move to FCS it costs UConn even more --- UConn's cheapest season ticket is currently $28 per game & UMass's most expensive is $20.)
The idea that a school can save money (after they have invested in facilities) by dropping from FBS to FCS is a myth.
The idea that UConn would make more money in the Big East than AAC also seems to be a myth.
For the fiscal year ending June 30, 2016, most AAC schools received higher conference distributions than most Big East Schools.
UCF $3.5 MM
Cinci $9.5 MM
UConn $10.5 MM
ECU $3.6 MM
Houston $7.2 MM
Memphis $4.7 MM
USF $9.1 MM
SMU $3.6 MM
Temple $4.6 MM
Tulane $4.0 MM
Tulsa $4.7 MM
Navy $2.8 MM
Only Navy earned less than $3.5 MM
Depaul $2.4 MM
St Johns $2.4 MM
SHU $3.0 MM
Georgetown $2.4 MM
Prov $2.9 MM
Marq $2.4 MM
Villanova $4.9 MM
Creighton $2.3 MM
Xavier $3.0 MM
Only Villanova earned more than $3.0 MM
For the fiscal year ending June 30, 2016, most AAC schools received higher conference distributions than most Big East Schools.
UCF $3.5 MM
Cinci $9.5 MM
UConn $10.5 MM
ECU $3.6 MM
Houston $7.2 MM
Memphis $4.7 MM
USF $9.1 MM
SMU $3.6 MM
Temple $4.6 MM
Tulane $4.0 MM
Tulsa $4.7 MM
Navy $2.8 MM
Only Navy earned less than $3.5 MM
Depaul $2.4 MM
St Johns $2.4 MM
SHU $3.0 MM
Georgetown $2.4 MM
Prov $2.9 MM
Marq $2.4 MM
Villanova $4.9 MM
Creighton $2.3 MM
Xavier $3.0 MM
Only Villanova earned more than $3.0 MM
what is the reasoning that they are making more money than the other schools..does this have to be with them being original members?
UConn can stay in football all they want, they will never win, they will always be chasing a dream they can never achieve and it is now affecting how their basketball program is perceived. Thats the danger, they can go the way of Duquense or San Fransisco basketball very easily
I have no idea why they earned more. It may have something to do with continued distributions from the buy-outs from all the teams that left (USF and Cinci also earned more). But even the new AAC members earned more than BE teams.
I disagree that UConn's struggles in football impact the perception of their BB team .... but I don't disagree strongly enough to argue the point.
Nonetheless, if UConn were to drop from FBS to FCS so they can move their BB to the Big East, it will cost them a ton of money in football and cost them more money by earning less from the conference. That means they would have even less money to pay their next basketball coach.
I'm pretty sure it's the buyouts from the departure of us and the others. That should dry up soon. Regarding the football program, I have no idea what they should do. However, I'm pretty sure they are totally screwed longterm unless they get the golden ticket we got and the chances of that happening are slim to none.
Who said anyone here feels sorry for UConn?
I am glad we aren’t them and realize there was a chance we might have stayed in the aac.
Typically assistants don't have buyouts. The ones that don't usually get paid until June 30 unless they get another college job somewhere.
Not often do you see a guy 2 years removed from the NCAA tournament and 4 years removed from a national championship fired. Wow . But I guess program was trending down enough to warrant it .
This will be interesting to watch unfold. My initial thought before hearing that he was being fired for cause was that they were nuts for firing him. This could drag on unless both sides want to settle and not a great look when trying to entice someone else. You wonder if they have set a budget for a new coach that is not at all contingent on not having to pay Ollie.
I saw a recent UConn game and the first thing I thought was....uh oh....they're gonna dump Ollie. What if they come after Pikiell ?
Let's hope they look elsewhere. Guys tend to wanna eventually coach their alma mater. And there's lots of work to do here yet.
Let's hope they look elsewhere. Guys tend to wanna eventually coach their alma mater. And there's lots of work to do here yet.
If there is an investigation good luck getting a quality hire. Why would Danny go there if he can go to a Power 5 program at Pitt. UConn in the AAC is an issue. They may end with a retread like Crean or Matta but even they can hold out for better jobs. They can always hire Big Ricky.
So they’re saving money on the buyout....
If it’s up to Jim Calhoun, you’d think he wants Pike in there.....and we know Pike is never going to be accused of not running a clean program.
Perhaps the UConn boosters won’t like Pike’s record,but that would seem to be the only thing keeping that from happening.
If it’s up to Jim Calhoun, you’d think he wants Pike in there.....and we know Pike is never going to be accused of not running a clean program.
Perhaps the UConn boosters won’t like Pike’s record,but that would seem to be the only thing keeping that from happening.
Firing Ollie with cause? Good luck with that. Ollie’s lawyers will see UConn in court.
Firing with cause is ballsy. If they are doing that how do they avoid sanctions? If there in the AAC, and there will be sanctions, how do you get a proven HC or high level assistant? Why no self sanctions to try and get in front of the NCAA?
If this is just an attempt to save the $10 million it will cost you a lot more when KO sues for his $10 plus future earnings losses
If this is just an attempt to save the $10 million it will cost you a lot more when KO sues for his $10 plus future earnings losses
Not true...they can probably swing by Florida and go pick it up. Likely still on the sidelines
