Isaiah Wright probable decommit per twitter
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many Rutgers fans can't see the forest from the trees.
Laughing my ass off at these fools committing to Temple.
Exactly.
We'll only know something about this staff's recruiting abilities when next year's class starts to take shape.
How the hell are we losing recruits to Temple? So far, it seems Rhule is at least a decent coach, but he is probably looking to advance his career. So odds are he won't be there long.
The home games draw very poorly, and let's be honest, parts of Philly are nice, but others are not, AT ALL. And, the AAC is not exactly a great league outside of the very top teams.
Whatever the kids decide, it's their choice. I'm trying to figure the pull.
The home games draw very poorly, and let's be honest, parts of Philly are nice, but others are not, AT ALL. And, the AAC is not exactly a great league outside of the very top teams.
Whatever the kids decide, it's their choice. I'm trying to figure the pull.
When there's a coaching change there's decommits. I get that but when they happen this close to NSD, i have to blame coach Ash. Wasn't Wright on campus this weekend? Gotta close on these guys
one advantage at Temple is he may be able to break the starting lineup as a 1st or 2nd year player while he may be redshirted at Rutgers and wait until his 3rd year.
Wow 28,236 in the stands for UCONN for #25 Temple. Real impressive. LOL.
Rhule redshirted something like 18 kids last year, and he's said it's his M.O. whenever possible. Temple also has a nice corps of receivers coming back, led by Ventell Bryant, who was probably their best this year (if not Robby Anderson). If Wright makes it impossible for Rhule to keep him off the field, then he'll play, I'm sure, but the preference is definitely to redshirt.
We will continue to lose some recruits to Temple as long as we remain a B1G bottom feeder. Being in the B1G by itself is not enough to put Temple in our rear view mirror especially when they are perceived as a program on the rise within their conference and have a good young coach. Coaching and playing time means more to a lot of recruits than conference affiliation. Pro scouts can find their way to the Linc. Ash gets us out of the bottom and we will no longer have to worry about them. Wining is the answer, plain and simple.
There have been rumblings that EJ was recruiting for Temple while still on the RU staff.
EJ is irrelevant for what this new staff is going to be doing.
At least the decommits respect the fact that Ash spent the first 3 weeks of his job preparing for OSU's bowl game and not trying to sell the decommits on his Rutgers plans.
I have to chuckle. If this many recruits had left, including one who committed in January, and there were 7 or 8 spots open in the recruiting class hours before commitment day under the prior staff, even under Schiano, this place would glow in the dark for the next 20 years after the meltdown that would have incurred.
I truly wish Ash takes RU to the next level, but the acceptance of anything that goes wrong compared to the prior expectations with regards to the coaching staff is amazing.
Wouldn't that be the reason you wouldn't blame Ash? I said a week ago he got into the game late, through no fault of his own, and this is what happens. We're not the first I assure you.....but at the end of the day this sets the program back yet further
First post, be gentle.
My question, did other schools that went through coaching turnover and are doing a decent job retaining their recruits completely overhaul their staff? Or did these schools end up keeping some folks from the old staff?
Before you answer, I think we definitely would not see so many decommits if Ash retained at least some of Flood's staff. I get that the kid should commit to the school, not the coaching staff, but the former coaching staff is what drew the recruits in from the get-go and it's apparently really challenging to build a trusting relationship in just a month or two. At the same time, the old staff who built the relationship are knocking on the door at other schools. Wouldn't you feel conflicted?
My question, did other schools that went through coaching turnover and are doing a decent job retaining their recruits completely overhaul their staff? Or did these schools end up keeping some folks from the old staff?
Before you answer, I think we definitely would not see so many decommits if Ash retained at least some of Flood's staff. I get that the kid should commit to the school, not the coaching staff, but the former coaching staff is what drew the recruits in from the get-go and it's apparently really challenging to build a trusting relationship in just a month or two. At the same time, the old staff who built the relationship are knocking on the door at other schools. Wouldn't you feel conflicted?
You have to ask yourself - if Ash had taken over as HC a whole year earlier, and was generally making the progress that is anticipated -
would Isaiah Wright have been identified & pursued as a key recruit? would Ash & Co really be thinking that Isaiah Wright would be a star? or a nice addition... who could play on special teams
- Seems Isaiah Wright was wondering the same things ...
The fact that Ash seriously plans to pull out all the stops / fire up the engines & make this team highly competitive & guide this program to the top - for some recruits - is not necessarily a reason to jump for joy -
They can look at it as:
- if Ash sucks as a HC then they will be on a mess of a team & will strongly want to transfer after two years - if they can
- if Ash gets traction and swiftly shows he is as good as Urban Meyer, Tom Herman, Barry Alvarez, Bret Bielema, Paul Rhoads, and countless others expect - - -
... then- after the next two recruiting classes
- they will be on a soaring rocket of a team - but will potentially be sitting behind higher ranked/performing recruits & will strongly want to transfer to get play time - if they can
would Isaiah Wright have been identified & pursued as a key recruit? would Ash & Co really be thinking that Isaiah Wright would be a star? or a nice addition... who could play on special teams
- Seems Isaiah Wright was wondering the same things ...
The fact that Ash seriously plans to pull out all the stops / fire up the engines & make this team highly competitive & guide this program to the top - for some recruits - is not necessarily a reason to jump for joy -
They can look at it as:
- if Ash sucks as a HC then they will be on a mess of a team & will strongly want to transfer after two years - if they can
- if Ash gets traction and swiftly shows he is as good as Urban Meyer, Tom Herman, Barry Alvarez, Bret Bielema, Paul Rhoads, and countless others expect - - -
... then- after the next two recruiting classes
- they will be on a soaring rocket of a team - but will potentially be sitting behind higher ranked/performing recruits & will strongly want to transfer to get play time - if they can
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many of the flips really liked a coach, but it was not one single coach.... we might have retained one coach, but still had flips away from us from a good number who liked another.
Yep, we should've kept EJ so we could land Wright, then what? Once again, no guarantee we keep Wright even with EJ. The fact that we are battling Temple for recruits is an example of Flood's level of recruiting...IMO any kid that would rather play for Flood or Temple doesn't belong at Rutgers.
EJ MAY have been valuable, but I value the expectations that this new staff brings. Is it possible that I'm wrong, HELL yes. But, for now, I prefer this staff to ONE GUY who had marginal results.
Many say EJ got top recruits on campus, great. But, we didn't get them, so who cares.
Yup.
Even we were able to beat out blue-bloods in the BigTen and SEC for recruits when we were stuck in the BigEast/AAC
getting rid of EJ and Camp before LOI day is working out great..along with not having a NJ asst coach on staff..welcome to Jersey !
Not saying they're the same people, but didn't we keep a coach/coaches before in order to save a recruiting class? That didn't work too well for us. I'd rather take the hits this year, and let Ash start fresh with his people for '17. People forget that we're still getting players Ash wants in this class.
So you're suggesting we should have retained staff members in an effort to "save a class"..?
Most kids commit to a staff, not to a school. You can't blame them, they only get four years in their life to play college ball. But I'll take the new staff over any single recruiting class.
By the way, when I saw yesterday that Bailey got an offer, my first thought was the staff figured out that Wright wasn't going to workout...in fact, the article where he said he wasn't sure if the staff would use him the way they say they would and all coaches say the same thing pretty much told me he wasn't trusting the changes and might move on.
I don't know what Flood sold these kids but I'm sure Ash isn't selling the same thing. If they don't buy in then have fun at Temple, lol. Flood had 4 years to build a program and the best he could do is get into a pillow fight for recruits with Temple, I'm glad those days are soon over.
After not accepting the invitation, twice, to join the Big East Conference, hiring Flood to save a recruiting class has got to be one of the most short sided things RU has done in my almost 40 years of watching RU football/basketball. We are still paying for it.
no,do what many other schools do keep one or two important recruiting coaches till after LOI day. Does it sound at top of charts thing to do?..no,but many other schools do the same and then make change after March1.
Damnit, you beat me to that .gif!
I have to chuckle. If this many recruits had left, including one who committed in January, and there were 7 or 8 spots open in the recruiting class hours before commitment day under the prior staff, even under Schiano, this place would glow in the dark for the next 20 years after the meltdown that would have incurred. .
