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It's obvious why RU didn't call a time out.

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Historically Rutgers turns the ball over when they rush into a 2 minute drill way back by the end zone. It was very conservative, but MSU didn't get a cheap score.
 
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MSU had 283 yards in first half, turnover it is 21-7. But it was bad.
 
Historically Rutgers turns the ball over when they rush into a 2 minute drill way back by the end zone. It was very conservative, but MSU didn't get a cheap score.
Not correct. A few plays later, RU had the ball at its 25, not by the end zone, and had all 3 of its time outs. While MSU has only one time out left. What does RU do? It lets the clock run almost 60 seconds while running only one play. And then RU starts taking all 3 of its time outs. Then takes a knee. It was a master class in not knowing how to manage the clock.
 
Not correct. A few plays later, RU had the ball at its 25, not by the end zone, and had all 3 of its time outs. While MSU has only one time out left. What does RU do? It lets the clock run almost 60 seconds while running only one play. And then RU starts taking all 3 of its time outs. Then takes a knee. It was a master class in not knowing how to manage the clock.
Exactly as you stated. I will make two observations. As the announcers were clamoring for a time out, Greg was talking to Korsak and not even watching the field. Second, Greg was talking to the sideline official with 30 (?) ish seconds left. I'd like to see the replay. I thought I saw him ask how many time outside they had and then looked a little amazed and said "three?" after the official answered. Then all of the sudden, Rutgers took timeouts. Either way, a real strange way of managing the clock with all those timeouts and gaining field position. The excuse he gave to the sideline reporter was piss poor.
 
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Historically Rutgers turns the ball over when they rush into a 2 minute drill way back by the end zone. It was very conservative, but MSU didn't get a cheap score.
That and the fact our defense has been inconsistent the second half of the season. Offenses have figured out our defenses.
 
Aka historically we've sucked, so let's assume we will suck moving forward. Gotta love that we have a coach that sustains our traditions here at RU!
Yep we do suck and will continue to do so with a HC who has no in game management and has a team that is totally undisciplined week in and week out. a joke
 
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Aka historically we've sucked, so let's assume we will suck moving forward. Gotta love that we have a coach that sustains our traditions here at RU!
We lost by one score. Schiano gave up an entire possession because he was afraid to go earn it.

Big boy football. Teams don’t give it you. This isn’t the Big East. You have to go beat them.
 
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That and the fact our defense has been inconsistent the second half of the season. Offenses have figured out our defenses.
Red zone defense is horrid. Whoever runs that should give up duties immediately.
 
Game announcers were totally critical of Schiano on that terrible game management.
We always do that before halftime………..loser mentality. Ugggghhhh!!
Should always be fighting for points.
 
Exactly as you stated. I will make two observations. As the announcers were clamoring for a time out, Greg was talking to Korsak and not even watching the field. Second, Greg was talking to the sideline official with 30 (?) ish seconds left. I'd like to see the replay. I thought I saw him ask how many time outside they had and then looked a little amazed and said "three?" after the official answered. Then all of the sudden, Rutgers took timeouts. Either way, a real strange way of managing the clock with all those timeouts and gaining field position. The excuse he gave to the sideline reporter was piss poor.
I saw that interaction with the official and thought the same thing.

That said, I don’t put that much stock into this. Let Schiano work on getting everything else done first. It seems to me that almost all of these college head coaches have no idea how to manage the clock. It’s comical at times.
 
Not correct. A few plays later, RU had the ball at its 25, not by the end zone, and had all 3 of its time outs. While MSU has only one time out left. What does RU do? It lets the clock run almost 60 seconds while running only one play. And then RU starts taking all 3 of its time outs. Then takes a knee. It was a master class in not knowing how to manage the clock.
IIRC, there was timeout mismanagement in the Temple game. This and the numerous substitution and special teams penalties is indicative of bad coaching.
 
Exactly as you stated. I will make two observations. As the announcers were clamoring for a time out, Greg was talking to Korsak and not even watching the field. Second, Greg was talking to the sideline official with 30 (?) ish seconds left. I'd like to see the replay. I thought I saw him ask how many time outside they had and then looked a little amazed and said "three?" after the official answered. Then all of the sudden, Rutgers took timeouts. Either way, a real strange way of managing the clock with all those timeouts and gaining field position. The excuse he gave to the sideline reporter was piss poor.
Not having a dedicated special teams coach has bit RU in the ass too many times this season.
 
Greg, what’s the rationale for trying 100
% to bust the victory formation when the game is already lost and not trying at all (O%) to score at the end of the first half with three TOs left?

Did the length of Spartan stadium grass impact these decisions?

Also, will the team try to score on offense against Penn State next week?

FYI …. loved the Langan jump pass. Worked like a charm. A shame Gleeson never thought to try that.
 
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That was pathetic game management. End of story
My theory
We were getting the second half kickoff and Greg wad content to forgo the last minutes of the first half and pick it up from there, not risking a turnover

What made his decision look bad was that we gained some good yardage on the final first half plays, making the running of the clock look bad during and after the fact

I think he regrets it
 
Please don't call this " time management " as if schiano wasn't paying attention yo clock. It had nothing to do with that right or wrong he intentionally only wanted to take a shot with little time left .
 
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My theory
We were getting the second half kickoff and Greg wad content to forgo the last minutes of the first half and pick it up from there, not risking a turnover

What made his decision look bad was that we gained some good yardage on the final first half plays, making the running of the clock look bad during and after the fact

I think he regrets it
He said exactly that as his rationale in his post game. It was still a stupid decision. Can't waste possessions with an inept offense, especially when a defense is playing prevent.
 
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Historically Rutgers turns the ball over when they rush into a 2 minute drill way back by the end zone. It was very conservative, but MSU didn't get a cheap score.
When they got to the 35(not deep in your own territory) they still had 1:30 left and 3 timeouts. The running game was gashing them and they were on their heels. Schiano decided a conversation with Korsak was more important and let 40 secs run off in two plays.

Schaino let a reeling defense off the hook by his risk adverse decision for the grand reward of being down at the half. Stupid move all around and Schiano's gruff rationalization of it still makes no sense. He was combative in response because he knew he completely screwed the pooch.
 
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Being conservative when starting out deep in our half made sense. Until we got a first down. Then it made no sense at all given we were down a TD and the O was moving the ball well without taking big risks anyway.

The coach needs to adjust to the game on the field. GS took far too long to adjust to the fact that we were moving the ball and not having to take huge risks doing so. In the end, he finally realized it and made an adjustment (proving the point). But by then it was too late.

He screwed up. He isn't stupid so he knows it, too.

Coaching screwups happen and I'm not making a broad statement about GS here. I'm avoiding getting constantly negative about him because there's no point in doing so and I'm not into wallowing in misery.

But let's not attempt to argue that the close of the first half was good coaching. The announcers knew it was a screw-up, the rest of the coaching staff knew it, many of the players knew it, and pretty much everybody watching the game in the stadium or on TV knew it.

I said this elsewhere, but we have to hope that, regardless of GS feebly trying to defend it in the post-game press conference, he reviews it and admits to himself that he screwed up and doesn't make the same mistake going forward.
 
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Being conservative when starting out deep in our half made sense. Until we got a first down. Then it made no sense at all given we were down a TD and the O was moving the ball well without taking big risks anyway.

The coach needs to adjust to the game on the field. GS took far too long to adjust to the fact that we were moving the ball and not having to take huge risks doing so. In the end, he finally realized it and made an adjustment (proving the point). But by then it was too late.

He screwed up. He isn't stupid so he knows it, too.

Coaching screwups happen and I'm not making a broad statement about GS here. I'm avoiding getting constantly negative about him because there's no point in doing so and I'm not into wallowing in misery.

But let's not attempt to argue that the close of the first half was good coaching. The announcers knew it was a screw-up, the rest of the coaching staff knew it, many of the players knew it, and pretty much everybody watching the game on in the stadium or on TV knew it.

I said this elsewhere, but we have to hope that, regardless of GS feebly trying to defend it in the post-game press conference, he reviews it and admits to himself that he screwed up and doesn't make the same mistake going forward.
Best analysis of what happened at the end of the half - well said
 
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