JMike

[RutgersChow]

Amazing how there aren't any threads devoted to him today. I guess the JMike negatoids, of which there a lot, especially the poster who claimed William Patterson was his level, still have their heads in the sand. The kid was flat out Rutgers best player on the court today, and probably their second best player against NW. The kid is a legit D1 PG who is only going to get better. He can get the ball to whatever spot on the court he wants to whenever he wants to, and he makes everyone around him better, the two main things a PG needs to do. He was pretty much uncoverable today and he's had only 2-3 turnovers in the last two games. I said a week or so ago that RU can still have some nice wins this year if JMike plays the one and Harper the two, and JMike also needs to play 35 minutes per game. He's was playing as fast today at the end as he was at the beginning.

Shout out to bac. That is now two of the last four for the SOPHOMORE.

 

[shields]

Played well today.

 

[MCKnight2004]

Played great and is only a sophomore. Can’t ever doubt his energy, speed and fight. It’s always shot making and turnovers with him. 22 games in, we can’t ignore the first 20 where he was sub par at best. But let’s hope he keeps stacking good games as next year we are desperate for good guard play and returning experienced players

 

[jakeknight]

Kid has worked really hard and the improvement is clear, not everybody, is ready to play day one but in the case of Jmike his learning curve is the result of his hard work.

 

[biazza38]

I hope he continues this. Desperately need upper class leadership next season

 

[RutgersChow]

Played great and is only a sophomore. Can’t ever doubt his energy, speed and fight. It’s always shot making and turnovers with him. 22 games in, we can’t ignore the first 20 where he was sub par at best. But let’s hope he keeps stacking good games as next year we are desperate for good guard play and returning experienced players

Well, whenever he would miss two threes in a row, no one would want him to shoot. That means there would be even more pressure on the third shot. Instead he needed to be encouraged to keep shooting until he started to become confident. Confidence breeds confidence. I believe this is one of Pike's strengths.

 

[G- RUnit]

Mea Culpa. I’ve been a big critic but last two games he has been great. Watching him and Acuff improve has been fun to my see.

 

[PhillyRU]

One of the few upshots of Harper missing extended time and this season being effectively over is we get to see what JMike can do in an expanded role. He’s played 52 games of basketball before today and had hit two 3s in a game just twice, he hit four today. Going to believe thats an aberration until I see otherwise.

If he can become an effective jump shooter/ scorer he'd be a tremendous player, though. Awesome defender and has really reigned in the turnovers this year (inching near a 2:1 AST to TOV ratio, which is great)

 

[RutgersChow]

One of the few upshots of Harper missing extended time and this season being effectively over is we get to see what JMike can do in an expanded role. He’s played 52 games of basketball before today and had hit two 3s in a game just twice, he hit four today. Going to believe thats an aberration until I see otherwise.

If he can become an effective jump shooter/ scorer he'd be a tremendous player, though. Awesome defender and has really reigned in the turnovers this year (inching near a 2:1 AST to TOV ratio, which is great)

He is now shooting 29% from three as only a sophomore. To put that into perspective Baker shot around 31% from three for his entire career and he is considered an all time RU great. Baker was labeled a great shooter early in his career, JMike a poor shooter. Unfortunately, labels stick.

 

[KK1827]

He looked really good. With that said, its always crazy to me when super athletic smaller guards who really dont have a shot at the nba dont just transition to football and play DB.

Athletically j-mike and guys like jacob young seem like due to their athleticism, laterally quickness and jumping ability theyd make tremendous corners

 

[Scangg]

Hawk posted JMikes stats over the last I think 6 games. Very impressive numbers. Efficient from 2 and 3 with 5:1 assist to TO ratio

Still only a sophomore!

Meanwhile Simpson putting up horrendous numbers yet again this year in his games against good competition while Davis is rising to the occasion in B10 play

Davis obituary written too soon

 

[Scangg]

He looked really good. With that said, its always crazy to me when super athletic smaller guards who really dont have a shot at the nba dont just transition to football and play DB.

Athletically j-mike and guys like jacob young seem like due to their athleticism, laterally quickness and jumping ability theyd make tremendous corners

It's hard to imagine they both wouldn't be studs at corner

 

[MadRU]

JMike definitely looked more confident, high energy guy. Allows us to play at a faster pace if wanted.

 

[Shelby65]

Shelby is a Davis detractor. Davis had some nice plays on D, and he did surprise by hitting a few threes. No denying it.

We said the same thing about Derkack after the MSU game.

Doesn’t make either of them a legit high major talent.

 

[NickRU714]

Shelby is a Davis detractor. Davis had some nice plays on D, and he did surprise by hitting a few threes. No denying it.

We said the same thing about Derkack after the MSU game.

Doesn’t make either of them a legit high major talent.

Agree.
Pump the brakes a little bit.

Yesterday was great.
4-7 from 3 is a heater.

But he was 6-27 from 3 (22.2%) in the first 21 games.
I'll wait to see it for at least one more game before we start saying take the ball out of Harper's hands.

 

[Shelby65]

It's hard to imagine they both wouldn't be studs at corner

Makes no sense. Completely different sport. That’s like saying college DBs would be good basketball players. Homerism at its worst again. Stop.

 

[RutgersChow]

Shelby is a Davis detractor. Davis had some nice plays on D, and he did surprise by hitting a few threes. No denying it.

We said the same thing about Derkack after the MSU game.

Doesn’t make either of them a legit high major talent.

Had some nice plays? Let it go. He was Rutgers best player by far yesterday. As I said before - he is now shooting 29% from three. Baker shot about 31% from three FOR HIS CAREER, and some consider him a top Rutgers player ever.

 

[RutgersChow]

It's hard to imagine they both wouldn't be studs at corner

I think the McCourty brothers were more recognized for their basketball ability in high school. They were 2* football players with few offers as I remember.

 

[G- RUnit]

Hawk posted JMikes stats over the last I think 6 games. Very impressive numbers. Efficient from 2 and 3 with 5:1 assist to TO ratio

Still only a sophomore!

Meanwhile Simpson putting up horrendous numbers yet again this year in his games against good competition while Davis is rising to the occasion in B10 play

Davis obituary written too soon

Mmmmm no. I try to get out but they keep dragging me back in. Simpson rant has no basis in fact.

Simpson averaging almost 10 points a game, 4 and a half rebounds for a guard!, 3.7 assists a game, assist turnover rate of 1.7, has 26 steals, shooting almost 33% from three and almost 80% from the line. Is the A10 the B1G of course not, but it’s a solid league.

Horrendous numbers against good competition? Bias much?

I firmly believe we should not have gave up on him and would have helped immensely.
Experience alone would have been invaluable.

 

[RAC93]

I have not been a Davis fan at all and typically groaned every time he entered a game and started driving out of control to the hoop or hoisting jumpers. However, JMike is now playing with poise and patience. He has cut down the out of control drives that have no chance of going in or will be blocked by the defense. He picks his spots now and shares the ball better.

I feel way more confident with him in the game right now than JWill, really don’t want to see JWill starting. JWill is now the out of control guy on the floor who dribbles around with no purpose, even though he is more experienced to JMike being a sophomore. The first game I noticed JMike having a big, positive impact was the UCLA game when their press caused us problems and JMike essentially beat their press by himself, helped turn that game in our favor. JMike has obviously worked at his game and appears to be turning a corner. He is making positives plays on the floor, while others we have don’t create positive plays (just dribble and dribble and dribble and the ball stops with them) or just make flat out negative plays. I personally did not think he was a Big 10 player based upon last season and what we had seen for a chunk of this season, but he has turned a corner of late and showing he belongs.

 

[Yeah Baby]

Happy for J Mike. We have lost a lot of Upperclassmen who get destroyed here and by clueless "fans" at the games. Those guys not returning take away from the team chemistry. We have 2 great players and a lot of guys who have been up and down or are emerging young kids. I root for all of them because that's how we win games.

There is a segment of miserable people who are addicted to trashing people on the internet which is mind boggling to me. Go out and have some fun today. Put your phones down and enjoy your lives.

 

[shields]

Good for Davis, is getting better.

 

[PhillyRU]

I think anyone arguing Geo was a good shooter is a little off-base. He was definitely a particularly clutch shooter in that 19-20 season, but his best attribute was his playmaking skillset. Also, Geo Baker had a much higher usage rate and was forced into a number of terrible shots at the end of the shot clock, while the majority of JMikes 3s are uncontested catch and shoot.

 

[NickRU714]

Makes no sense. Completely different sport. That’s like saying college DBs would be good basketball players. Homerism at its worst again. Stop.

It's more about the size difference between the NBAand NFL.
NBA basically has a height requirement.

6'0 PG has little NBA potential.
Doesn't matter how fast you are.
You literally have to be one of the most skilled players ever at that size.

However, a fast atheltic 6'0" football player has much more opportunities to develop into a NFL player.

 

[RUChoppin]

Had some nice plays? Let it go. He was Rutgers best player by far yesterday. As I said before - he is now shooting 29% from three. Baker shot about 31% from three FOR HIS CAREER, and some consider him a top Rutgers player ever.

Baker's yearly averages:
2017-18: .361
2018-19: .341
(3 point line extended)
2019-20: .280
2020-21: .303
2021-22: .321
Career: .326 (over 727 total attempts)

Baker averaged .351 as a freshman/sophomore before the line was moved back.

In the first year of the new line, he struggled early and then suffered a thumb injury (missing 3 games)... but then in the back third of the season, he shot .354 over the last 12 games.

In 2020-21, he sprained his ankle in the season opener and missed several games... he shot .222 in his first month back from injury, then .341 the rest of the season (ending with a season average of .303).

Davis is riding high after a strong 4/7 performance and is up to .294, raising his career average to .254 (over 70 total attempts) - he's not in the same conversation with Baker.

 

[RutgersChow]

Baker's yearly averages:
2017-18: .361
2018-19: .341
(3 point line extended)
2019-20: .280
2020-21: .303
2021-22: .321
Career: .326 (over 727 total attempts)

Baker averaged .351 as a freshman/sophomore before the line was moved back.

In the first year of the new line, he struggled early and then suffered a thumb injury (missing 3 games)... but then in the back third of the season, he shot .354 over the last 12 games.

In 2020-21, he sprained his ankle in the season opener and missed several games... he shot .222 in his first month back from injury, then .341 the rest of the season (ending with a season average of .303).

Davis is riding high after a strong 4/7 performance and is up to .294, raising his career average to .254 (over 70 total attempts) - he's not in the same conversation with Baker.

Wow, Baker has a lot of excuses. Fact is Baker shot 32.6% from three over a five year career, Davis 29.4% for his career so far. Baker wasn't a great defender and he had a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Someone posted recently that JMike's was 5-1 this year. This is probably the most important stat for a PG. And once JMike takes over the starting PG position, which I believe he will, I expect his three point percentage will improve. Baker was associated with two Rutgers NCAA teams after a long drought which, IMO, led to an overrating. JMike has so far played for two bad teams which has led to him being underrated IMO. Baker was relied upon to score. With Ace and Dylan playing along side him, JMike is not. I don't know what the overall rebound numbers were for Baker, but I know he didn't go near the basket as a senior. For a 6'4" guard he was a sub par rebounder. I think JMike is a pretty good rebounder for his size. I know JMike could regress but I wouldn't expect it. If he remains at Rutgers for four years I would expect him to end up with a better 3 point shooting percentage than Baker and a better assist to turnover ratio. He is already a better defender. JMike is a PG. Baker was a two guard, who struggled going to his left, playing the point. JMike is also quicker than Baker and has a better handle. You watch - in two years JMike will be one of the better PG's in the Big 10. Baker was never in the top 3 or 4. One last point - I believe you used the 3 point line being extended as a disadvantage for Baker. Well, JMike never had the opportunity to shoot threes from a shorter distance.

 

[Scangg]

Mmmmm no. I try to get out but they keep dragging me back in. Simpson rant has no basis in fact.

Simpson averaging almost 10 points a game, 4 and a half rebounds for a guard!, 3.7 assists a game, assist turnover rate of 1.7, has 26 steals, shooting almost 33% from three and almost 80% from the line. Is the A10 the B1G of course not, but it’s a solid league.

Horrendous numbers against good competition? Bias much?

I firmly believe we should not have gave up on him and would have helped immensely.
Experience alone would have been invaluable.

Someone broke down his stats and posted it against the good teams he has played this year and they are horrible. Again. Really really bad

 

[Scangg]

Mmmmm no. I try to get out but they keep dragging me back in. Simpson rant has no basis in fact.

Simpson averaging almost 10 points a game, 4 and a half rebounds for a guard!, 3.7 assists a game, assist turnover rate of 1.7, has 26 steals, shooting almost 33% from three and almost 80% from the line. Is the A10 the B1G of course not, but it’s a solid league.

Horrendous numbers against good competition? Bias much?

I firmly believe we should not have gave up on him and would have helped immensely.
Experience alone would have been invaluable.

Look at these stats against Q1/Q2 i.e. B1G level.... absolutely inarguably brutal numbers

26% FG
24% from 3
31% eFG

Here are his average stats vs. NET quadrants this year:
Q1/Q2: 32.2 min, 7.3 pts (10.7 FGA/.266 FG%, 4.2 3PA/.240 3P%, 1.0 FTA/.667 FT%), eFG% .313, 3.5 rb, 2.5 ast, 2.0 tov, 1.50 ast/tov, 1.3 stl, 1.5 pf
Q3/Q4: 31.8 min, 11.8 pts (9.0 FGA/.444 FG%, 4.5 3PA/.407 3P%, 2.5 FTA/.758 FT%), 3FG% .547, 4.4 rb, 4.3 ast, 2.1 tov, 2.07 ast/tov, 1.2 stl, 2.1 pf

 

[RUChoppin]

Wow, Baker has a lot of excuses. Fact is Baker shot 32.6% from three over a five year career, Davis 29.4% for his career so far. Baker wasn't a great defender and he had a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Someone posted recently that JMike's was 5-1 this year. This is probably the most important stat for a PG. And once JMike takes over the starting PG position, which I believe he will, I expect his three point percentage will improve. Baker was associated with two Rutgers NCAA teams after a long drought which, IMO, led to an overrating. JMike has so far played for two bad teams which has led to him being underrated IMO. Baker was relied upon to score. With Ace and Dylan playing along side him, JMike is not. I don't know what the overall rebound numbers were for Baker, but I know he didn't go near the basket as a senior. For a 6'4" guard he was a sub par rebounder. I think JMike is a pretty good rebounder for his size. I know JMike could regress but I wouldn't expect it. If he remains at Rutgers for four years I would expect him to end up with a better 3 point shooting percentage than Baker and a better assist to turnover ratio. He is already a better defender. JMike is a PG. Baker was a two guard, who struggled going to his left, playing the point. JMike is also quicker than Baker and has a better handle. You watch - in two years JMike will be one of the better PG's in the Big 10. Baker was never in the top 3 or 4. One last point - I believe you used the 3 point line being extended as a disadvantage for Baker. Well, JMike never had the opportunity to shoot threes from a shorter distance.

At the end of the day, Davis is a defensive-focused distributing point guard, not a volume-shooting combo guard like Baker was. They play very different roles on their respective teams.

Davis is not a 3P shooter. Not just because his 3P% is low (it is), but also because his volume is low. Expecting Davis to end his career with a better 3P% than Baker just doesn't math. Davis has just 70 3PA through 53 games (1.32/game) and has made just 18 of them (.257) - by contrast, Baker hit 53 of 147 just as a freshman. Davis hit almost a quarter of his career threes in a single hot game. Even if he shoots 2x as many 3PA/g over the rest of his career, he'd need to shoot >.350 the rest of the way to get his career average to .326.

Baker is looked at as a 3P shooter because he's 5th all time in made threes... and he, Harper, and Myles Mack are the only guys in the last 25 years to even make the Top 10. Even without his 5th year, he'd still be 8th all time. He gained his reputation as a strong 3P shooter with a closer line and by hitting a lot of late threes that mattered in close games. Still, it was more about volume than consistent accuracy with Baker over the course of his career.

Davis has a 3.58 ast/tov rate this year (which is fantastic) and has a career 1.98 rate (very solid). He's much more valuable as a distributor than as a shooter - and I'm sure that number would be higher if he had more guys around him who could hit shots.

Not sure how Baker started taking strays in this thread, though, lol.

 

[RUChoppin]

Mmmmm no. I try to get out but they keep dragging me back in. Simpson rant has no basis in fact.

Simpson averaging almost 10 points a game, 4 and a half rebounds for a guard!, 3.7 assists a game, assist turnover rate of 1.7, has 26 steals, shooting almost 33% from three and almost 80% from the line. Is the A10 the B1G of course not, but it’s a solid league.

Horrendous numbers against good competition? Bias much?

I firmly believe we should not have gave up on him and would have helped immensely.
Experience alone would have been invaluable.

Simpson's been on a poor streak of late, mostly because he's been facing some tougher programs. He's scoring 9.8 pts/game, but on .368 FG%... which is worse than he was as a freshman at Rutgers. Since conference play started, he's scoring 9.0 pts/game on .333 FG% and .275 3P%.

His rebounding has improved a bit, but his efficiency has been regressing to his career mean. It's up a bit overall from last year because St. Joseph's plays a lighter schedule. Against tougher teams, his shooting has really suffered compared to what it is against lower quality opponents.

I'd still have liked to have kept him this year, though, just as another guy on the floor who had game reps in Pike's system who could have helped the other guys along defensively. We need to do everything we can to keep the guys we have this year as we go into 2025-26.

 

[lion1983]

Posted this on the Roundtable a few days ago, before this past game ... now I will update to include the Michigan game (and Simpson for his last game).

So ... Careers through this season:

Davis: 37.0% FG, 25.7% 3-point FG, 40.9% EFG%, and 40.3% 2-point FG ... Per 40 min: 9.7 pts/40, 3.6 ass/40, 1.8 turn/40, 4.5 reb/40, 2.0 stl/40

Simpson: 34.6% FG, 28.3% 3-point FG, 38.9% EFG%, and 37.3% 2-point FG ... Per 40 min: 13.1 pts/40, 4.1 ass/40, 2.3 turn/40, 4.6 reb/40, 1.7 stl/40 ... and THAT is including vast improvement in shooting percentages in Simpson's JUNIOR season at St. Joes.

So ... SOPHOMORE Seasons (Davis' obviously only through 22 games):

Davis: - Sophomore 36.7% FG, 29.4% 3-point FG%, 41.8% EFG%, and 40.6% 2-point FG% ... Per 40 minutes: 9.7 pts/40, 4.3 ass/40, 1.2 turn/40, 2.8 reb/40, 2.1 stl/40

Simpson - Sophomore: 30.5% FG, 28.2% 3-point FG, 34% EFG%, and 31.3% 2-point FG% ... Per 40 minutes: 12.7 pts/40, 4.5 ass/40, 2.3 turn/40, 4.9 reb/40, 2.1 stl/40.

Now ... you might say the last game skewed Davis' stats, and therefore are not a true reflection of his abilities and performance. A fair point - because it was such a large performance it moved the dial on his averages for the entire season - and his career. But his SEASON averages do not suggest the Michigan performance is sustainable ... but why is it MORE skewing, and therefore should be discounted MORE than performances this season such as @ Kennesaw St or @ Nebraska, where he went 0-4 FG each game (0-8 for both, 0-5 from 3)?

I would also add, from the game logs, averaging 18 minutes per game, Davis has had ONE game in which he had as many a 3 turnovers (just 3, vs Purdue), and in 22 games he has had just THREE (3 !!!) games in which he has had even 2 turnovers in a single game: Back to back vs Penn St and SHU, then vs Purdue (3). And 5 other games in which he has had a single, 1 turnover ... He has had FOURTEEN (14 !!!) games in which he has had ZERO (0 !!!) turnovers. When is the last time we have had a PG, even if a reserve PG - or any player, for that matter, who has turned the ball over with less frequency?

Just saying ... Davis is even or AHEAD of Simpson's sophomore season development in most ways ... the exception being points per 40 minutes and FT%.

 

[G- RUnit]

Simpson's been on a poor streak of late, mostly because he's been facing some tougher programs. He's scoring 9.8 pts/game, but on .368 FG%... which is worse than he was as a freshman at Rutgers. Since conference play started, he's scoring 9.0 pts/game on .333 FG% and .275 3P%.

His TS% this season is .444.... which would be 11th on Rutgers' current rotation, just .003 ahead of Jamichael Davis at .441

His rebounding has improved a bit, but his efficiency has been regressing to his career mean. It's up a bit overall from last year because St. Joseph's plays a lighter schedule. Against tougher teams, his shooting has really suffered compared to what it is against lower quality opponents.

I'd still have liked to have kept him this year, though, just as another guy on the floor who had game reps in Pike's system who could have helped the other guys along defensively. We need to do everything we can to keep the guys we have this year as we go into 2025-26.

Out of conference games had some very good opposition so the conference argument is neither here nor there. Bigger issue is recently team as a whole has not been playing as well.

Three point shooting not bad. Would have been just behind Ace and Dylan. Nearly 80 percent from the line with a large sample size. Offense prowess we could have used and not fair to suggest would have only helped us defensively.

Rebounding has actually improved. Steals would lead RU.

Yep his shooting from the field is bad but wouldn’t be doing that here.

Experience would have been invaluable. Nobody on this team had as much B1G experience as him. Think he could have been a nice part.

 

[G- RUnit]

Posted this on the Roundtable a few days ago, before this past game ... now I will update to include the Michigan game (and Simpson for his last game).

So ... Careers through this season:

Davis: 37.0% FG, 25.7% 3-point FG, 40.9% EFG%, and 40.3% 2-point FG ... Per 40 min: 9.7 pts/40, 3.6 ass/40, 1.8 turn/40, 4.5 reb/40, 2.0 stl/40

Simpson: 34.6% FG, 28.3% 3-point FG, 38.9% EFG%, and 37.3% 2-point FG ... Per 40 min: 13.1 pts/40, 4.1 ass/40, 2.3 turn/40, 4.6 reb/40, 1.7 stl/40 ... and THAT is including vast improvement in shooting percentages in Simpson's JUNIOR season at St. Joes.

So ... SOPHOMORE Seasons (Davis' obviously only through 22 games):

Davis: - Sophomore 36.7% FG, 29.4% 3-point FG%, 41.8% EFG%, and 40.6% 2-point FG% ... Per 40 minutes: 9.7 pts/40, 4.3 ass/40, 1.2 turn/40, 2.8 reb/40, 2.1 stl/40

Simpson - Sophomore: 30.5% FG, 28.2% 3-point FG, 34% EFG%, and 31.3% 2-point FG% ... Per 40 minutes: 12.7 pts/40, 4.5 ass/40, 2.3 turn/40, 4.9 reb/40, 2.1 stl/40.

Now ... you might say the last game skewed Davis' stats, and therefore are not a true reflection of his abilities and performance. A fair point - because it was such a large performance it moved the dial on his averages for the entire season - and his career. But his SEASON averages do not suggest the Michigan performance is sustainable ... but why is it MORE skewing, and therefore should be discounted MORE than performances this season such as @ Kennesaw St or @ Nebraska, where he went 0-4 FG each game (0-8 for both, 0-5 from 3)?

I would also add, from the game logs, averaging 18 minutes per game, Davis has had ONE game in which he had as many a 3 turnovers (just 3, vs Purdue), and in 22 games he has had just THREE (3 !!!) games in which he has had even 2 turnovers in a single game: Back to back vs Penn St and SHU, then vs Purdue (3). And 5 other games in which he has had a single, 1 turnover ... He has had FOURTEEN (14 !!!) games in which he has had ZERO (0 !!!) turnovers. When is the last time we have had a PG, even if a reserve PG - or any player, for that matter, who has turned the ball over with less frequency?

Just saying ... Davis is even or AHEAD of Simpson's sophomore season development in most ways ... the exception being points per 40 minutes and FT%.

If you don’t play much you don’t turn over the ball?

Last two games have been his best and seems to be improving. Well done!

But:

Might want to re check MSU, PSU, Neb, UCLA, Purdue box scores and minutes played before the grand pronouncements of not turning the ball over.

Michigan was odd we turned over the ball way too much in the first half. A different team in the second half. Who knows. Maybe nice coaching adjustments by Pike?

There are also forced shots and FORCED SHOTS. Ya hear what I’m saying?

He’s played pretty well last two games. Finally hit some threes. And Didn’t turn the ball over. Defense intensity was turned up a notch, especially on break away dunk. Something we haven’t seen this year.

Maybe confidence up. Good for him!

But victory laps by posters…. Mmmm might to rethink that!

 

[DC8690]

Amazing how there aren't any threads devoted to him today. I guess the JMike negatoids, of which there a lot, especially the poster who claimed William Patterson was his level, still have their heads in the sand. The kid was flat out Rutgers best player on the court today, and probably their second best player against NW. The kid is a legit D1 PG who is only going to get better. He can get the ball to whatever spot on the court he wants to whenever he wants to, and he makes everyone around him better, the two main things a PG needs to do. He was pretty much uncoverable today and he's had only 2-3 turnovers in the last two games. I said a week or so ago that RU can still have some nice wins this year if JMike plays the one and Harper the two, and JMike also needs to play 35 minutes per game. He's was playing as fast today at the end as he was at the beginning.

Shout out to bac. That is now two of the last four for the SOPHOMORE.

I said it when they were complaining that he wasn’t close to JY when JY was like 22 when playing for us. He is getting better and better and I hope he stays here.

 

[RUChoppin]

Out of conference games had some very good opposition so the conference argument is neither here nor there. Bigger issue is recently team as a whole has not been playing as well.

Three point shooting not bad. Would have been just behind Ace and Dylan. Nearly 80 percent from the line with a large sample size. Offense prowess we could have used and not fair to suggest would have only helped us defensively.

Rebounding has actually improved. Steals would lead RU.

Yep his shooting from the field is bad but wouldn’t be doing that here.

Experience would have been invaluable. Nobody on this team had as much B1G experience as him. Think he could have been a nice part.

Experience would have been invaluable, yes - but he's not night-and-day better this year vs. last. He's closer to what he was as a freshman, and he's shown some improvement with a step down in competition. Against the stronger teams he's played, he's struggled.

Against the 9 teams St. Joseph's has played with a NET better than 140:
8.3 pts (.301 FG%, .256 3P%), 4.0 RB, 3.7 ast, 1.4 stl, 2.0 tov

Against the 13 teams St. Joseph's has played with a NET worse than 140:
10.4 pts (.432 FG%, .385 3P%), 4.6 RB, 3.6 ast, 1.2 stl, 2.1 tov

The worst B1G team is 101 Minnesota right now.

 

[FastMJ]

Posted this on the Roundtable a few days ago, before this past game ... now I will update to include the Michigan game (and Simpson for his last game).

So ... Careers through this season:

Davis: 37.0% FG, 25.7% 3-point FG, 40.9% EFG%, and 40.3% 2-point FG ... Per 40 min: 9.7 pts/40, 3.6 ass/40, 1.8 turn/40, 4.5 reb/40, 2.0 stl/40

Simpson: 34.6% FG, 28.3% 3-point FG, 38.9% EFG%, and 37.3% 2-point FG ... Per 40 min: 13.1 pts/40, 4.1 ass/40, 2.3 turn/40, 4.6 reb/40, 1.7 stl/40 ... and THAT is including vast improvement in shooting percentages in Simpson's JUNIOR season at St. Joes.

So ... SOPHOMORE Seasons (Davis' obviously only through 22 games):

Davis: - Sophomore 36.7% FG, 29.4% 3-point FG%, 41.8% EFG%, and 40.6% 2-point FG% ... Per 40 minutes: 9.7 pts/40, 4.3 ass/40, 1.2 turn/40, 2.8 reb/40, 2.1 stl/40

Simpson - Sophomore: 30.5% FG, 28.2% 3-point FG, 34% EFG%, and 31.3% 2-point FG% ... Per 40 minutes: 12.7 pts/40, 4.5 ass/40, 2.3 turn/40, 4.9 reb/40, 2.1 stl/40.

Now ... you might say the last game skewed Davis' stats, and therefore are not a true reflection of his abilities and performance. A fair point - because it was such a large performance it moved the dial on his averages for the entire season - and his career. But his SEASON averages do not suggest the Michigan performance is sustainable ... but why is it MORE skewing, and therefore should be discounted MORE than performances this season such as @ Kennesaw St or @ Nebraska, where he went 0-4 FG each game (0-8 for both, 0-5 from 3)?

I would also add, from the game logs, averaging 18 minutes per game, Davis has had ONE game in which he had as many a 3 turnovers (just 3, vs Purdue), and in 22 games he has had just THREE (3 !!!) games in which he has had even 2 turnovers in a single game: Back to back vs Penn St and SHU, then vs Purdue (3). And 5 other games in which he has had a single, 1 turnover ... He has had FOURTEEN (14 !!!) games in which he has had ZERO (0 !!!) turnovers. When is the last time we have had a PG, even if a reserve PG - or any player, for that matter, who has turned the ball over with less frequency?

Just saying ... Davis is even or AHEAD of Simpson's sophomore season development in most ways ... the exception being points per 40 minutes and FT%.

They're both lousy shooters

 

[Shelby65]

the low turnovers are a reflection of shot hunting and somewhat less playing time

It’s clear he sees himself as a big time player.

And let’s be honest, prior to the last game his hideous perimeter shots, layup fails etc are in essence turnovers.

 

[RUChoppin]

Davis has done a pretty good job this year of not turning over the ball.

Harper has played 596 minutes, Williams 474, Derkack 452, and Davis 402... and they lead the team in assists.

Adjusting for 100 possessions:
Harper: 7.4 ast, 3.9 tov, 1.88 ast/tov
Davis: 6.1 ast, 1.7 tov, 3.58 ast/tov
Derkack: 5.7 ast, 4.1 tov, 1.41 ast/tov
Williams: 5.1 ast, 4.2 tov, 1.20 ast/tov

 

[Knight Owl]

Davis has done a pretty good job this year of not turning over the ball.

Harper has played 596 minutes, Williams 474, Derkack 452, and Davis 402... and they lead the team in assists.

Adjusting for 100 possessions:
Harper: 7.4 ast, 3.9 tov, 1.88 ast/tov
Davis: 6.1 ast, 1.7 tov, 3.58 ast/tov
Derkack: 5.7 ast, 4.1 tov, 1.41 ast/tov
Williams: 5.1 ast, 4.2 tov, 1.20 ast/tov

I assume getting stuffed at the rim is a missed shot attempt…which would impact the relevance of these numbers. And I’m not a JaMike hater at all.

 

[PhillyRU]

I assume getting stuffed at the rim is a missed shot attempt…which would impact the relevance of these numbers. And I’m not a JaMike hater at all.

I mean that’s just JMike not being able to score the basketball, which feels like his only flaw as a player right now apart from maybe physical stature