I don't disagree it could be and admitted as much. But in my mind, that's about the only way I want any of these politicians getting near Rutgers. It doesn't cost them anything, doesn't open them up to hits politically and has rallying cry of some state pride but again if even that is a pipe dream then I'm very skeptical of having any of them associated with us.
When RU came to Lincoln for football I, along with some RU people, walked from our hotel to the stadium with JH and Sarah Baumgartnet(sp). I found them both to be very personable even knowing there was zero chance of getting a check out of me. JH and me had a very nice conversation about the Big 10 and her NU roots. If you think she isn't out front enough you would hate the NU guy. 99% of the he is hidden from anybody. When you do see him he is very friendly but he is not a "people" person. He knows how to get people to write checks but you never see him talking to the media or discussing future plans for anything to the general public. If you have a suite for NU football games he will come by once a season to say thanks(and usually ask for more money) and you can go into his suite and say hi if you have one in West stadium but you never see him in public or talking to the media just to "inform" them of how everything is going.
I believe the debt RU incurred because of the RU-UMDNJ merger and paying off RU Stadium expansion would hold the BOG and Barchi back from giving Hermann the go ahead to take out loan, no matter how low the interest rate is.
you missed that my local high school (Hunterdon Central) just snuck a $1.9mil athlete's training facility into the budget under the BS notion that it would serve as a physical education classroom during the day and a place for all the students to work out after school including the school's athletic teams.
Sounds like you keep making excuses for RU's current AD style of selling.
Real money is being raised, but a lot of that is being used to cover what school funding is being cut from the Athletic Department's budget and with Stadium expansion debt on the books and the merger debt needed to be paid, don't
I think she's fine glad handing the people who matter and is very approachable to anyone from students to big wigs. Even our resident Husker fan here liked her and SB.
Upstream, at this point does it matter if Lesniak is "using" Rutgers as a pawn against that pos Christie? I don't care how this gets done, but it needs to get done NOW, not seven years from now. That is just absurd. Thank god Barchi is gone in 2016 and so will Christie.
You realize the irony in identifying 2 of like 345 athletic directors, right? Very, very few AD's are visible to anyone outside the fan base.
Others such as ND's Swarbrick, Haden at USC, former FSU and Alabama AD and current Tennessee AD David Hart, Osborne at Nebraska, Del Conte at TCU plus more...all "upfront" AD's who are all great salesmen.
My best friend is from Union-Elizabeth area and he knows Lesniak for a long time. Although Lesniak is an RU grad he is also about the most corrupt politician in the state, bar none. If he is going to bat for RU it is only to further his own political cause. Just talking about Ray Lesniak makes me feel like I need a shower. Guy is a true skeeve.
Who isn't? Norcoss, Sweeney, Christie, and the list goes on save for a select few and they stay out of issues like this.
Ok...but that's a you problem....as plenty of them are getting the job done obviously by being able to build basketball practice facilities all over the country, many with just private donations for funding.
Actually no, he's the rule not the exception. Most fans across the country will be hard pressed to name 5 ADs anywhere. They operate in the background, they are not out in front of the media. Many of these guys can fundraise because they much greater support than RU ever has. As I've said many times, the AD than can fundraise significantly here will be the first.
ECU's Greenville, NC is basketball crazed area? For a team that has been to just 2 NCAA Tourn appearances in their 80 plus year history? (Only once since 1974).
No they're not a basketball crazed area but they do like their sports teams which is what I said. My brother just lives a little outside of there and dated a few people who went to school there and they are a definitely a passionate fan base for their sports, specifically football. They practically feel a little separate from the rest of North Carolina, a little kingdom to themselves. So with that chip on that shoulder they are passionate with their support. We're actually our own state but rather than take pride in that most want to be either part of NYC or Philly. If there's anything that can be all NJ, it's the state university but instead of support like ECU, it's derision/ridicule/find fault from the general public, to the media, to the politicians.
Well, that little kingdom has never supported their basketball program, which is why I mentioned how without any history of hoop success OR real strong support, they were still able to secure $17 Million in donations to build a new basketball practice facility.
The anecdote was to demonstrate that I've heard through my brother who actually lives near there and who has associated with people who went to school there and live there what the dynamics of their support are. How much do you know about the area? And for a school its size and not even the state school they are very ardent, specifically for football but it doesn't mean it can't bleed over to other sports.
Exceptions?
I've seen the threads and many of the pics you put up. The exception isn't the fact that they get done. The exception is how much is fundraised by majority or entirely through private funds, like ECU, without either a long history/tradition in either major sport or short term winning. A lot of support is needed by the university otherwise.
There have been dozen of threads on this topic over the past year or two...with multiple threads started/posted by others in recent weeks that noted scores of teams that did just that. I even posted plenty of examples in those threads as well.
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I'm not going to go round and round on this with you because you never address my points and just keep pointing the fact that other schools do it with no acknowledgement of the surrounding situation even when I asked specifically about USF/UCF, schools I think you'd be familiar with. I've seen all your articles and postings. It doesn't address any of the questions I asked.
Most college hoop fans know those answers because we watch college hoops. It's obvious you don't know what programs have and have not had success in the past.
Exactly what I thought. Still can't answer any of the points I mention at all just like you haven't all along so just come up with some dumb quip. I'm plenty familiar with many of the programs and pictures you put up and most of them fit the criteria I'm talking about. Very few don't.
