Known 2023 OOC Opponents

[bigmatt718]

Found out that RU will be playing Utah on 3/4 at home. Interesting...maybe a possible future B1G affiliate if/when the Pac 12 crumbles? Obviously we will face Princeton at home and Army at West Point and I believe we face Loyola at home. Any other OOC scheduling nuggets? I'm 99% sure we face St. John's at home as well...part of me wants to end that series but I guess they're a good cupcake to have for Week 2 or so before the Army game.

 

[patk89]

New coach for St. John's so rebuild mode for them.

 

[bigmatt718]

New coach for St. John's so rebuild mode for them.

I'm 50/50 on why we should keep playing them. They've stunk for a while so I mean they're normally a good tune up opponent for Army most years.

 

[rufamily]

Hurts their RPI but it is close and a pretty easy ride for a road game and better than playing NJIT or Wagner

 

[mdk01]

Utah was a goal away from an AQ last year and gave Denver all they could handle early in the season. Worthy opponent who will likely help their RPI, unlike St. Johns

 

[Caliknight]

Utah for St. John's would be a good trade.

I trust the staff. They know exactly what they are doing as it relates to RPI. Our RPI last year was no accident.

The question is, will the committee still value it like they have in past years. ND and Duke, along with the entire Acc, were besides themselves for not making it.

 

[rufamily]

Utah for St. John's would be a good trade.

I trust the staff. They know exactly what they are doing as it relates to RPI. Our RPI last year was no accident.

The question is, will the committee still value it like they have in past years. ND and Duke, along with the entire Acc, were besides themselves for not making it.

neither team deserved it but If I were choosing one it would have been Duke as they beat several tournament teams while ND did not best a single team in the field

 

[Caliknight]

I couldn't care less one way or the other tbh

 

[rbled]

I love that we are making sure that we have a presence on LI every year, but I wouldn’t mind dropping St. John’s as long as we have Stony Brook, Hofstra & LIU on the schedule. We would still have at least one game on LI every year but other than being close, SJU doesn’t bring much to the table. Most LI kids don’t consider Queens to be part of LI and aren’t as likely to go to games there as they are to the other LI schools in the schedule. As much as other areas are emerging for HS talent, it is still important to recruit LI. It is in our backyard, fast enough to be away but close enough for friends and family to do a day trip and there is a ridiculous amount of talent there.

 

[jreinsdorf]

I just threw an invite out to some friends to go to West Point. Been to Mitchie for football but I wanna go back, explore all of the campus on foot, hit the game then drown myself in lagers at the Thayer Hotel. Never been there and its on my list.

 

[patk89]

I love that we are making sure that we have a presence on LI every year, but I wouldn’t mind dropping St. John’s as long as we have Stony Brook, Hofstra & LIU on the schedule. We would still have at least one game on LI every year but other than being close, SJU doesn’t bring much to the table. As much as other areas are emerging for HS talent, it is still important to recruit LI. It is in our backyard, fast enough to be away but close enough for friends and family to do a day trip and there is a ridiculous amount of talent there.

Agree completely. But I would rank those 4 teams in attractiveness as (1) Stony Brook, further east on LI but quality program, (2) Hofstra, centered in a major talent pool but RU can offer recruits better facilities and exposure plus superior academics, (3) St. John's, I consider them western LI although it is Queens, and (4) LIU.

 

[mdk01]

Agree completely. But I would rank those 4 teams in attractiveness as (1) Stony Brook, further east on LI but quality program, (2) Hofstra, centered in a major talent pool but RU can offer recruits better facilities and exposure plus superior academics, (3) St. John's, I consider them western LI although it is Queens, and (4) LIU.

LIU would be better for Rutgers' RPI than St. Johns

 

[Caliknight]

Hofstra off our schedule for 23.

 

[bigmatt718]

I'd like to add more Ivies to the slate like Penn, Brown, and Cornell in addition to Princeton. All of our playoff games last year with the Ivies were fun.

 

[Caliknight]

We had Brown on the schedule for a home and home and and won both of them. That was a good series and was hoping they would renew it. We play similar styles to it's a run and gun affair. The win at their place was all time. Lotta things working against that team from travel to weather to hotel room challenges. Kids were sleeping on floors.

That was probably 6 or 7 years ago. I knew our culture was really good when we won that game.

 

[rbled]

Agree completely. But I would rank those 4 teams in attractiveness as (1) Stony Brook, further east on LI but quality program, (2) Hofstra, centered in a major talent pool but RU can offer recruits better facilities and exposure plus superior academics, (3) St. John's, I consider them western LI although it is Queens, and (4) LIU.

LIU is one you want to keep for a bunch of reasons.

1. They should be a relatively easy W for the foreseeable future
2. They will be a plus for RPI as they will likely finish near the top of their conference in most years (last year they were 2nd of the 4 D1 LI schools, 5 spots behind SBU).
3. The campus is a stones throw (30 min or less) from big time programs such as Garden City, St Anthony’s, Chaminade, Manhasset, Port Washington, Syosset, Cold Spring Harbor, etc, etc, etc.

 

[mdk01]

We had Brown on the schedule for a home and home and and won both of them. That was a good series and was hoping they would renew it. We play similar styles to it's a run and gun affair. The win at their place was all time. Lotta things working against that team from travel to weather to hotel room challenges. Kids were sleeping on floors.

That was probably 6 or 7 years ago. I knew our culture was really good when we won that game.

IIRC it was the 2 years after the "Rutgers on steroids" team that went to the Final Four. You can find that team in Webster's under "pull your starters when you have a big lead" That semifinal loss in OT was with Dylan Molloy playing on a broken ankle and the run and gun turned into a Woody Hayes "4 yards and a cloud of dust"

 

[mdk01]

IIRC it was the 2 years after the "Rutgers on steroids" team that went to the Final Four. You can find that team in Webster's under "pull your starters when you have a big lead" That semifinal loss in OT was with Dylan Molloy playing on a broken ankle and the run and gun turned into a Woody Hayes "4 yards and a cloud of dust"

First time RPI was taken into account in scheduling?

 

[Caliknight]

Probably. After the NCAA made it very clear the reason we didn't get in two years in a row with really nice wins was because of our RPI.

So, to the coaching staff's credit, they learned how the RPI worked exactly and started tailoring the schedule around it.

I'm very sure that's why we don't see Hofstra on the schedule now. Is it perfect? No. It takes two teams to agree to tango, but our RPI last year wasn't from throwing darts at a board.