Basketball LIVE GAME THREAD: Rutgers vs. St. Bonaventure
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We are jaded to all this.
I look at Seton Hall and am amazed how a school a fraction of our size with lesser facilities can succeed and we can't get a sniff of the tournament.
I asked Pike right after he was hired when he thought RU would get to the Big Dance. He said with confidence in two years.
Well, that prediction fell flat on its face.
I am now believing there are intangibles at RU that make it impossible to win. Call it a jinx or whatever you want but not making the NCAA tourney in 29 years is a feat difficult to accomplish.
Just from a standpoint of luck, it seems recruiting a couple shooters should happen by chance.
I give up trying to figure it out.
Getting too old!
If I were coaching, I would have them do nothing but Ft's for an entire practice and every time they missed make them run a wind sprint. This is getting really pathetic now. That a whopping 63% from the line. Even mediocre teams can shoot 70%.
It is easier to get from terrible to mediocre than it is to get from mediocre to good. Pike is trying to get over that second hump now; too early to write him off, but clearly it’s a struggle with this roster.
Yeah, I didn’t mean it as an excuse for him; I just meant this roster makes it that much harder to graduate from mediocre to good.
Barnaby, just so you know, I'm a huge Pikiell fan. But so far this season his idea of substituting has just cost us one game and we nearly lost two more. We easily could and should be 1-3 right now. It is inexcusable for the way he doesn't have these kids prepared. Where's the tough D? Especially at the 3 point line? They shot nearly 50% from there. Think about that? Fifty percent! Our kids shot 26%. We're awful.
I am starting to wonder how he evaluates talent? How come we don't have two sharp shooter on this team? We certainly have size, but we don't have players who can put the ball in the basket on a consistent basis. Everyone from Baker to Harper to Caleb are streaky shooters. If they get hot, we can ride them. But more times than not we get everyone super cold like we did tonight and we lose to a team ranked nearly 100 spots below us. This is very troubling. Also, I now know why Young rode the bench at Texas. He hasn't shown me ANYTHING.
yea he lost his luster
Lol...the number 6 recruit in Sweden.......too funny
Like football mens basketball is in the slow, tedious process of rebuilding which has no apparent time frame for even minimal success like a winning season.There is a lack of urgency to change the status quo which is troubling .
We've played so poorly thus far, we could easily and probably should be 1-3. I am really disappointed in Pike's inability to get these kids to play consistently on both ends of the floor.
let’s keep playing bullshit teams to get us ready. Open with the some real teams and you beat this sorry-ass St. Bonaventure team. There is no doubt we have more talent so we know where the problem is.
He did he got the Swedish guy......wait until next year we will beat them handily. Lol
Ain't that the truth. It's always wait until next year. I'm getting too old for this.
Don’t tell kyk that....He will spin it somehow to say that we don’t have a Myles Powell on the team and that is why we lost.....lol
Where's that clown who ripped me for predicting a SB win a few weeks ago?
So far I'm beating you in our predictions.
Let's see how it plays out through the season
So far I'm beating you in our predictions.
Let's see how it plays out through the season
I disagree the rebuilding in basketball should be two or three years as it has less players on the court compared to having to recruit almost 5 times more players in football. Football could take 4-5 years.
How about 13 straight losing seasons and almost 30 years without one NCAA bid?Its not surprising that Rutgers has difficulty attracting top tier recruits.Winning matters in sports .
He probably shouldn't be recruiting players without power 6 offers then. He isn't going to get it done with recruits ranked in the 400s.
Nothing. Just have seen athletic guys who can't shoot or play reckless for too long. Maybe Mulcahy isn't the answer or is not ready yet but usually the really good teams have a really savvy PG or distributor.
I am certainly not an insider, nor do I possess anything more than average fan's basketball knowledge. But the shortcomings of this team struck me quite some time ago as simple, inescapable common sense; it was just so apparent to me. In a post on this board perhaps 2 and a 1/2 months ago, I expressed those concerns in some detail First, I wondered about the guard-dominated roster, which was overloaded with guys who could play the one, the two or a wing position. I was concerned that it would be difficult to learn a new style of team play, with a smaller more mobile lineup and a need to shoot well in transition. Even more important, I worried about establishing effective lineups and rotations among all those personnel. It would take some time to develop chemistry and adequate playing time within those rotations.Second, I really felt that the loss of Eugene Omoruyi was huge, no matter how some fans rationalized his departure. We lost a leader, a fine rebounder, a rugged defender and a guy who could score pretty well at the rim. Shaq Doorson also was a loss, diminishing our defensive presence in the paint and in rebounding. RU would be left with a dangerously thin front court. Finally, I reiterated the constantly expressed concerned that we were a poor free throw shooting and 3 point shooting team and that this deficiency could really hurt the team's prospects.
My personal perception was that this team might not do as well as last year's campaign. It seemed obvious, but in a growing surge of hype and hope among fans, this year's club was not likely to meet that expectation. So far, this fear has been more than borne out. I hope that we will get a good deal better, but I am not optimistic. Can't shoot the three, can't defend the three. A long year ahead.
Harper is a very average player. He has no consistent outside shot and he isnt dynamic or quick with the ball. He is at best the a third or fourth scorer on an above average team which RU is not. What is surprising is the lack of defensive intensity. Pike say defense and rebounding always travel. Well they didnt pack them tonight.
He doesnt have a defensive stopper and rebounder.Pike appears to have sold this team on playing race track basketball which in the Big Ten wont work. Couple that philosophy in that the team doesnt have good shooter and its a roller coaster of ride each game
Didn't watch game was RH Jr in foul trouble? 19 minutes and 5 shots? He has to be a 30 minute 15 shot guy. Just looking at the boxscore too many guys in the rotation seems like no one in long enough to get in flow of gam . Just does not seem like team has found its identity yet
Agreed need a few bangers on the boards and be able to get points in the paint. We are going to get eaten alive in the B1G if Myles or SC get in foul trouble we are super thin there
We have no starting quality big guys besides 1 sophomore, and we have no one who can shoot the 3 consistently, so what do we have.
I hear you but guess I am a bit disappointed as a majority of posters were lauding him as the next great player when he committed and haven’t seen that (some were saying he may even start). Hopefully, he is just getting accustomed to college ball and we will see a change in a few weeks.
You guys need to settle down this team is still trying find identity and rotation. RH Jr needs to play 30 minutes a game. My guess Pike trying to save him for B1G schedule but 5 shots is unacceptable he needs at least 3X that many every game
Just once... one time... I would like to Rutgers get a recruit and from the minute he steps on campus everyone agrees "oh yeah, he's a DUDE."
Gabe Kalscheur on Minnesota last year... High volume 40% three point shooter from day 1.
Giorgi on Illinois scored 17 against Gonzaga in his third game.
Wieskamp on Iowa was their second best player all year.
These aren't 5* one and dones. These are the caliber of prospect Rutgers should be able to get but it NEVER happens here.
Gabe Kalscheur on Minnesota last year... High volume 40% three point shooter from day 1.
Giorgi on Illinois scored 17 against Gonzaga in his third game.
Wieskamp on Iowa was their second best player all year.
These aren't 5* one and dones. These are the caliber of prospect Rutgers should be able to get but it NEVER happens here.
