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In your part of the country maybe…if people are dumb enough to fall for this bs, that’s on them!
Kinda weird that the southern and southwestern states dominated charts for the highest covid, death rates per 100,000 people. Coincidentally, these same states were among the latest to institute mask mandates and among the first to lift them when they were in place. Texas ranked #11 in total deaths per 100k despite being one of the furthest states away from the massive hit during the first covid wave. Check out the death rates as the months passed. During covid spikes northeast states typically reduced their infection/death rates when compared to past waves as opposed to our southern and southwestern brethren who increased their infection/death rates. I'm not saying I favor mask mandates now but ignorance really wasn't all that bliss for you and your neighboring states who didn't want to mask and/or isolate during successive covid waves.
 
We should adapt to whatever the real world conditions are. Right now, mask mandate would be overkill, but some may choose to wear them. It likely will get worse a bit in the early fall, and then likely better.

But what will be will be
 
It's interesting that Rutgers is one on the only schools (and only one in NJ) that still requires Covid vaccinations to enroll in school this year. Putting aside the politics and the fact that Rutgers is the largest recipient of donations by Pfizer, it wouldn't shock me if they start up with mask mandates again.

 
Even talking about masking at this stage shows we live in a clown world

Never forget what they did and don't let them get away with it this time

Nah. It does show there are still clowns, though. Like you.

And dont worry, as much as Id like to, I'll never forget what a bunch of whiny, self-absorbed assholes your ilk was. Literally can't forget because youre still doing it ...two years later. And you didn't get away with anything.
 
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Even talking about masking at this stage shows we live in a clown world

Never forget what they did and don't let them get away with it this time
Agreed with what you say about mask mandates currently...but who did what before? You mean the part where the tri state area imposed mask mandates/lockdowns/vaccination requirements, then drove infection/death rates down while other areas of the country ignored them and infection/death rates rose substantially?
 
and so it begins,the arguments that once dominated TKR
and we can only expect the same type of disagreement.

Starting this thread asking about masks is just making sure the arguments will continue.
 
Agreed with what you say about mask mandates currently...but who did what before? You mean the part where the tri state area imposed mask mandates/lockdowns/vaccination requirements, then drove infection/death rates down while other areas of the country ignored them and infection/death rates rose substantially?
COVID went wherever it wanted. Nothing slowed it. Nothing stopped it.

Death rates are most closely correlated with age and obesity. Why nobody was willing to say the latter part out loud is indicative of the time we’re living in.
 
COVID went wherever it wanted. Nothing slowed it. Nothing stopped it.

Death rates are most closely correlated with age and obesity. Why nobody was willing to say the latter part out loud is indicative of the time we’re living in.
More true in the beginning than now.

Anyone is at risk. Older or with chronic illness including obesity increased risk for bad outcomes.

Much more complex than you make it out to be.

And no one is hiding anything in this regard.
 
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Even talking about masking at this stage shows we live in a clown world

Never forget what they did and don't let them get away with it this time
I agree talking about masking at this point is ridiculous.
Who is “they”?
 
More true in the beginning than now.

Anyone is at risk. Older or with chronic illness including obesity increased risk for bad outcomes.

Much more complex than you make it out to be.

And no one is hiding anything in this regard.
Well. The UK is no longer recommending COVID vaccine for anyone under 50 unless they are at high risk. The science has been saying that since just a few months into the pandemic.

How long do you think it will be before the US starts following the science? I’m still getting push notifications on the regular for boosters, which we now know only produces an immune response for a month or two. I’ve also had COVID twice already.
 
Correct. A number of European countries have done that. And it’s not just that they’re not recommending them, they’ve outright banned them. Especially for younger males. And some (like Switzerland) have removed immunity for doctors prescribing it (the only way to get it now). They also never masked kids. Because, unlike us, they were more honest early on that the risks from the vax (it’s laughable we still call it that) and ineffectiveness of masking (and the related downsides) didn’t justify it.
 
COVID went wherever it wanted. Nothing slowed it. Nothing stopped it.

Death rates are most closely correlated with age and obesity. Why nobody was willing to say the latter part out loud is indicative of the time we’re living in.
Comorbidities absolutely played a huge role. However, nothing slowed it? I very much disagree. Lockdowns didn't slow it? If we take 20 people in NJ, locked them down in their own homes. Then compare them to 20 people who were hardly locked down and allowed to mingle with one another (think Florida, Texas, New Mexico, etc). They were much more apt to spread the virus amongst themselves and their friends/families than in NJ. Thats pretty easy to deduce. Hence, reduced infection rates in successive waves in NJ while FL, TX, NM all underwent increasing infection rates in successive waves. Masks? They provided barriers which limited dispersion...reduced/slowed infection rates. I'll stop there. Naysayers rejoice. LOLers, please LOL.
 
Comorbidities absolutely played a huge role. However, nothing slowed it? I very much disagree. Lockdowns didn't slow it? If we take 20 people in NJ, locked them down in their own homes. Then compare them to 20 people who were hardly locked down and allowed to mingle with one another (think Florida, Texas, New Mexico, etc). They were much more apt to spread the virus amongst themselves and their friends/families than in NJ. Thats pretty easy to deduce. Hence, reduced infection rates in successive waves in NJ while FL, TX, NM all underwent increasing infection rates in successive waves. Masks? They provided barriers which limited dispersion...reduced/slowed infection rates. I'll stop there. Naysayers rejoice. LOLers, please LOL.

Masks did nothing during Omicron and even strict mask pushers like Leanna Wen admitted as did others..your blue mask worthless..yet Rutgers smh
 
COVID went wherever it wanted. Nothing slowed it. Nothing stopped it.

Death rates are most closely correlated with age and obesity. Why nobody was willing to say the latter part out loud is indicative of the time we’re living in.
42% of American adults are obese. It’s not like that was a small subset of the population. Covid in America certainly exacerbated by overall US fatness and shitty healthcare system.
 
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Kinda weird that the southern and southwestern states dominated charts for the highest covid, death rates per 100,000 people. Coincidentally, these same states were among the latest to institute mask mandates and among the first to lift them when they were in place. Texas ranked #11 in total deaths per 100k despite being one of the furthest states away from the massive hit during the first covid wave. Check out the death rates as the months passed. During covid spikes northeast states typically reduced their infection/death rates when compared to past waves as opposed to our southern and southwestern brethren who increased their infection/death rates. I'm not saying I favor mask mandates now but ignorance really wasn't all that bliss for you and your neighboring states who didn't want to mask and/or isolate during successive covid waves.
There are a lot of fats in the south
 
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