Men’s soccer

[rsutton86]

Fact is he made a horrible hire, then doubled down on that horrible hire. In the process losing 30% of season ticket sales or 6,254 in one season. And down almost 12,000 since Ash took over. We don't sell half that many season tickets for all Olympic Sports combined.

He locked a 1st time ever head coach into a 7 yr. guaranteed contract(it was basically guaranteed because were we bound to get something and he extended it for a slap on the wrist). And put no buy out clause in said contract.(Locksley at Maryland if fired for no cause gets 65% of his remaining salary). So yea, he deserves a ton of backlash for those numbnut decisions.

Football used to be a revenue generator. Now it's hemorrhaging money which becomes a drain on other sports. Hobbs has to fix this immediately, it's turning into a very expensive lesson for him, on RU's dime. Do I want him fired no. Do I have confidence in him to make the next hire no. His sole lifetime experience in football is Chris Ash. Olympic sports matter, but football is supposed to help pay their revenue losses.

Didn’t he have a limited amount of time to hire the head coach? If I recall when Hobbs was hired and Ash was hired to not too long afterwards. If he has more time (and money), I’m confident he will make a better hire.

Not arguing here, but he appeared to be under the gun in terms of time to hire a new FB coach.

 

[bigmatt718]

Didn’t he have a limited amount of time to hire the head coach? If I recall when Hobbs was hired and Ash was hired to not too long afterwards. If he has more time (and money), I’m confident he will make a better hire.

Not arguing here, but he appeared to be under the gun in terms of time to hire a new FB coach.

He had 5 days. Hobbs has fired about 8 coaches since then and hit on all of them.

 

[koleszar]

Didn’t he have a limited amount of time to hire the head coach? If I recall when Hobbs was hired and Ash was hired to not too long afterwards. If he has more time (and money), I’m confident he will make a better hire.

Not arguing here, but he appeared to be under the gun in terms of time to hire a new FB coach.

I understand. But how do we explain away the contract gaffes and doubling down on the choice after a horrendous 2018? I mean the guy was Dean of a law school. A 7yr. guaranteed contract for a 1st time head coach just isn't given. Now not all contracts have buyouts, but for an unknown they're put in there. He left himself no way out should he make a mistake. Now Rutgers is paying dearly.

 

[koleszar]

Do they have experience greasing Trenton politicians? How many new facilities have Temple's AD gotten built? Are ANY of Temple's Olympic sports good? Ditto for Cincy.

I get your love affair with Hobbs. As no matter what facts I present, you will simply say they have never done it in NJ. But there are other viable candidates that could do well at Rutgers. Again, do I want Hobbs fired, no, you failed to read that in my 1st post on the subject. But it's OK to question his judgement he's not the God you make him out to be. He has faults and football showed them.

 

[bigmatt718]

I get your love affair with Hobbs. As no matter what facts I present you will simply say they have never done it in NJ. But there are other viable candidates that could do well at Rutgers. Again, do I want Hobbs fired, no, you failed to read that in my 1st post on the subject. But it's OK to question his judgement he's not the God you make him out to be. He has faults and football showed them.

Fair enough and you aren't one of the meathead football only RU fans who circle jerks around of poster of Schiano as I know you post here, so I'll take what you say a bit more seriously than other posters. I'd be less confident if he didn't hit on every other hire after Ash. If he screws up the next football hire, by all means, fire him.

 

[ruready07]

Don’t tell that to the football-only meatheads

Compared to other schools I’m familiar with, Rutgers is definitely a school where fans support all other sports as well at the main 2. Just because some fans have a belief that football is extremely important (which it is, even if just due to the size and scope of the operation), it doesn’t mean they are a problem in any way.

I don’t think you’ll find many Rutgers football fans who aren’t also heavily rooting on the wrestling program.

 

[Caliknight]

I’m a huge MLAX guy but I want all sports to do as well as humanly possible. Why wouldn’t you if Rutgers is your school?

 

[rags]

Yea Hobbs made some mistakes with football, and unless the new president is pro sports whoever anyone thinks is a good replacement for Hobbs is also going have one hand tied behind his back.

IMO we need to keep Hobbs - he has been atoning for his football sins by fundraising his ass off and upgrading ineffective non rev coaches when contracts expire to avoid more nj.com scrutiny and improving most sports. If you had a stock report type of chart for the RU sports there would be a lot of buys right now and only a few sells (VB, FB,??)

As someone up thread mentioned he is not comfortable with football - well then he should be bring in an assistant AD that has the right comfort level and can focus on just football.

 

[bigmatt718]

Yea Hobbs made some mistakes with football, and unless the new president is pro sports whoever anyone thinks is a good replacement for Hobbs is also going have one hand tied behind his back.

IMO we need to keep Hobbs - he has been atoning for his football sins by fundraising his ass off and upgrading ineffective non rev coaches when contracts expire to avoid more nj.com scrutiny and improving most sports. If you had a stock report type of chart for the RU sports there would be a lot of buys right now and only a few sells (VB, FB,??)

As someone up thread mentioned he is not comfortable with football - well then he should be bring in an assistant AD that has the right comfort level and can focus on just football.

That last paragraph actually makes a lot of sense to me. Hobbs can create an assistant AD position or even a consultant role from a P5 school with football success to help him in that part of the job.

 

[rucoe89]

Yea Hobbs made some mistakes with football, and unless the new president is pro sports whoever anyone thinks is a good replacement for Hobbs is also going have one hand tied behind his back.

IMO we need to keep Hobbs - he has been atoning for his football sins by fundraising his ass off and upgrading ineffective non rev coaches when contracts expire to avoid more nj.com scrutiny and improving most sports. If you had a stock report type of chart for the RU sports there would be a lot of buys right now and only a few sells (VB, FB,??)

As someone up thread mentioned he is not comfortable with football - well then he should be bring in an assistant AD that has the right comfort level and can focus on just football.

This nails it. His first hire may have been a big mistake, but his actions after are enough to allow him to get it right this time. In addition, I think there is a legit story somewhere on why the extension was added. I am wondering if it was an artifact that was triggered by something in the original contract. Just speculation on my part, however, on that point.

 

[rags]

oh yea - even though i list VB as sell i am optimistic they may be improving but unless there are some B1G wins this year that's the next coach (non rev) at the top of the list to replace

 

[rudad02]

Talking about firing Hobbs is just foolish given the massive improvements he has made across the board. Such talk really shouldn't be dignified or taken seriously.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

He had 5 days. Hobbs has fired about 8 coaches since then and hit on all of them.

DING DING DING DING DING!!

 

[bigmatt718]

RU Men's Soccer officially RVs this week in the coaches poll. Ranked #28 in the nation. Beat Binghamton tonight and Manhattan this weekend and they'll be in the Top 25 for sure next week.

 

[RUonBrain]

RU Men's Soccer officially RVs this week in the coaches poll. Ranked #28 in the nation. Beat Binghamton tonight and Manhattan this weekend and they'll be in the Top 25 for sure next week.

Yeah, but who hired the new soccer coach?

 

[rufeelinit]

DING DING DING DING DING!!

While I think Hobbs deserves to stay based on his ability raise money to improve our facilities and the early performance of some of his other hires, it is too early to declare that he has hit on all of his subsequent hires. In most, cases it is too early to make such an assessment.

Happy to see McElderry off to a good start, as I was not overwhelmed by his credentials, but winning four games does not mean he will be successful for the long haul. Owens has the best credentials but still needs to do at this level and Lehman has a nice pedigree but has never run her own show. How about we let some of these hires perform for at least full year or two before declaring them a "hit".

 

[rudad02]

While I think Hobbs deserves to stay based on his ability raise money to improve our facilities and the early performance of some of his other hires, it is too early to declare that he has hit on all of his subsequent hires. In most, cases it is too early to make such an assessment.

Happy to see McElderry off to a good start, as I was not overwhelmed by his credentials, but winning four games does not mean he will be successful for the long haul. Owens has the best credentials but still needs to do at this level and Lehman has a nice pedigree but has never run her own show. How about we let some of these hires perform for at least full year or two before declaring them a "hit".

What about the rowing guy Price? Butler in Softball?

 

[RUonBrain]

While I think Hobbs deserves to stay based on his ability raise money to improve our facilities and the early performance of some of his other hires, it is too early to declare that he has hit on all of his subsequent hires. In most, cases it is too early to make such an assessment.

Happy to see McElderry off to a good start, as I was not overwhelmed by his credentials, but winning four games does not mean he will be successful for the long haul. Owens has the best credentials but still needs to do at this level and Lehman has a nice pedigree but has never run her own show. How about we let some of these hires perform for at least full year or two before declaring them a "hit".

Of course

But you can’t look at any of them and say, “That doesn’t look like it is going to work out.”

So far, so good.
What more could you expect at this point in time?

 

[Eagleton96]

I understand. But how do we explain away the contract gaffes and doubling down on the choice after a horrendous 2018? I mean the guy was Dean of a law school. A 7yr. guaranteed contract for a 1st time head coach just isn't given. Now not all contracts have buyouts, but for an unknown they're put in there. He left himself no way out should he make a mistake. Now Rutgers is paying dearly.

Isn't the doubling down is standard operating procedure? Seems to me most schools extend a coach that is struggling even when they fire a year or two later. To attract a coach you cant show you have a super quick trigger (hindsight is 20/20). And to not extend would have hamstrung recruiting.

 

[SirScarlet]

While I think Hobbs deserves to stay based on his ability raise money to improve our facilities and the early performance of some of his other hires, it is too early to declare that he has hit on all of his subsequent hires. In most, cases it is too early to make such an assessment.

Happy to see McElderry off to a good start, as I was not overwhelmed by his credentials, but winning four games does not mean he will be successful for the long haul. Owens has the best credentials but still needs to do at this level and Lehman has a nice pedigree but has never run her own show. How about we let some of these hires perform for at least full year or two before declaring them a "hit".

fair enough...we shouldn't be throwing a ticker day parade...BUT...right off the bat, there are some key items such as organization, shape, style of play...that are a result of good coaching. Not to do a direct comparison, but with both Jordan and Ash, I distinctly recall having serious concerns (I started a "red flag" thread I remember) 2 games in...

good coaches are good coaches...no matter where they are. and you see it right away. does that mean he's going to win a B1G championship this year? Probably not...LOL...but I love the direction we're headed.

So net-net, while we can't anoint anyone yet, things are clearly looking up.

 

[RU85inFla]

Yes Hobbs had a short window to hire a coach. Quick show of hands:

If you are ever hired to a position and the first task is to hire your most important employee in an area that you are not familiar with, do you lock yourself up in your home to do it?

Just wondering?

I actually think that success in Olympic sports will provide some real nice press/PR in NJ and our recruiting area and dramatically help build the Rutgers brand. Winning in football alone and then absolutely no press for 9 months is a formula that kinda works. Having positive press year round will support football as well as basketball in the long run.

Lets face it, my Florida buddy a cult member reads Penn Live daily to follow all PSU sports. Up until recently, nothing to read for us RU fans outside of football season.

 

[zazoo2002]

While I'm thrilled that McElderry and the team are off to a good start, the collective record of the teams we've played so far are: 2-10-1. Time will tell.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Of course

But you can’t look at any of them and say, “That doesn’t look like it is going to work out.”

So far, so good.
What more could you expect at this point in time?

IIRC hasn’t made ONE BAD HIRE since Ash and most already have an upside or are showing that potential.

 

[e5fdny]

I actually think that success in Olympic sports will provide some real nice press/PR in NJ and our recruiting area and dramatically help build the Rutgers brand. Winning in football alone and then absolutely no press for 9 months is a formula that kinda works. Having positive press year round will support football as well as basketball in the long run.

Lets face it, my Florida buddy a cult member reads Penn Live daily to follow all PSU sports. Up until recently, nothing to read for us RU fans outside of football season.

That because while we all know Football drives the bus in the B1G the passengers (the Olympic and other sports) on said bus are just as important.

It didn't seem like that was a big of a priority in the A-10, Big East or AAC days. But it sure is now.

While I'm thrilled that McElderry and the team are off to a good start, the collective record of the teams we've played so far are: 2-10-1. Time will tell.

Win the games you're supposed to and get better along the way. All you can ask.

 

[FoxRU]

While I'm thrilled that McElderry and the team are off to a good start, the collective record of the teams we've played so far are: 2-10-1. Time will tell.

Sure, but Elon beat us something like 6-1 last year and this year we beat them. That is measurable progress.

 

[koleszar]

Isn't the doubling down is standard operating procedure? Seems to me most schools extend a coach that is struggling even when they fire a year or two later. To attract a coach you cant show you have a super quick trigger (hindsight is 20/20). And to not extend would have hamstrung recruiting.

Well that's not why the contract was extended. Plus those extension usually come with a huge buyout clause. Not 100% guaranteed for a failing coach. They're more eye candy to say hey look recruits we just extended our dog sh*t coach so don't worry he'll still be around if you want to commit. No if's, and's, or but's about it Hobbs has to fix it. Again the loss of 12,000 season tickets is a staggering loss in revenue. A revenue generator has turned into a revenue loser just like the Olympic sports.

 

[Caliknight]

Sure, but Elon beat us something like 6-1 last year and this year we beat them. That is measurable progress.

I think it might have been 8-1. It was a score I had never seen in soccer before, I remember that.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Sure, but Elon beat us something like 6-1 last year and this year we beat them. That is measurable progress.

8-1...at home.

 

[Scarlettrooper]

Again, who do you hire for AD then? And I want a reasonable answer.

You already heard the answer you just don't want to hear it. One was Temple's AD who was in the B1G at one point in his career so he knows the importance of all sports across the board. Another is the Cincinnati AD. They're tough with limited budget in several sports. Another is Sean Frazier the AD at N. Illinois. You know the finalist here who was railroaded by Kate Sweeney for Mrs. Foot in Mouth.

Are you actually writing this with a straight face? This is, simply put, plain stupid.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Well that's not why the contract was extended. Plus those extension usually come with a huge buyout clause. Not 100% guaranteed for a failing coach. They're more eye candy to say hey look recruits we just extended our dog sh*t coach so don't worry he'll still be around if you want to commit. No if's, and's, or but's about it Hobbs has to fix it. Again the loss of 12,000 season tickets is a staggering loss in revenue. A revenue generator has turned into a revenue loser just like the Olympic sports.

What are you talking about here? How did Hobbs "double down" on Chris Ash? You've said that sever times now.

Unless I am very mistaken, Chris Ash was never extended. The contract was updated after 2017, because on the terms of the original contract, it had to be. That is not an extension. Due to the 2 year probation, the initial deal became a 7 year deal (it was 5 years plus however long we were on extension), as you recognized in your other post. Now if you want to argue that initial deal was dumb, I fully agree, but there was no "extension" nor was there a "doubling down." I fully believe if Hobbs could have fired Ash after last year, he would have.

 

[koleszar]

Are you actually writing this with a straight face? This is, simply put, plain stupid.

Yes, if you used reading comprehension and followed the thread between myself and @bigmatt718, I clearly stated I didn't want Hobbs fired. The hypothetical situation was posed by bigmatt if not Hobbs then who? I answered with who I felt would be good AD's here. If you had bothered to look up their history, you would have seen they have been good at several Universities.

With that information now in hand, which you clearly missed, what do you find stupid about the post. That these are not viable candidates or that Kate Sweeney didn't railroad Sean Frazier. You do know the latter was widely reported on, right?

 

[koleszar]

What are you talking about here? How did Hobbs "double down" on Chris Ash? You've said that sever times now.

Unless I am very mistaken, Chris Ash was never extended. The contract was updated after 2017, because on the terms of the original contract, it had to be. That is not an extension. Due to the 2 year probation, the initial deal became a 7 year deal (it was 5 years plus however long we were on extension), as you recognized in your other post. Now if you want to argue that initial deal was dumb, I fully agree, but there was no "extension" nor was there a "doubling down." I fully believe if Hobbs could have fired Ash after last year, he would have.

I said, "well that's not why the contract was extended." Which means for others reasons. Yes I know the wording in the original contract. Basically a slap on the wrist which would not hamper any coach from improving his team kicked in the last two years. Perhaps I should have worded my post more precisely. As I went straight into explaining what an extensions for a failing coach consists of.

I say doubling down on Ash for two reasons. Posters in private conversations who I trust and have been correct in the past have told me there was money available if the right candidate was selected. Even the mods on the RT hinted at such. Two Hobbs gambled that people would not give up their season tickets and he could sooth the fury with his letter. He lost. 6,254 season tickets were lost in a single year. Just on ticket price alone that's $2.2mil. dollars in revenue lost. Now you have to add in seat donations, parking, concession sales(beer now included) and merchandize sales lost. That more than covers Ash and his staff and probably the next staff. Your telling me Hobbs couldn't raise $3.5mil for a new head coach?

 

[Scarlettrooper]

Are you actually writing this with a straight face? This is, simply put, plain stupid.

Yes, if you used reading comprehension and followed the thread between myself and @bigmatt718, I clearly stated I didn't want Hobbs fired. The hypothetical situation was posed by bigmatt of not Hobbs then who? I answered with who I felt would be good AD's here. If you had bothered to look up their history, you would have seen they have been good at several Universities.

With that information now in hand, which you clearly missed, what do you find stupid about the post. That these are not viable candidates or that Kate Sweeney didn't railroad Sean Frazier. You do know the latter was widely reported on, right?

I didn’t missing anything in this thread. I know exactly what you wrote. And my reply was simple. It’s completely moronic.

Firing Hobbs for anyone you suggested wreaks of complete incompetence. But I’m not surprised at all. Many folks on this board have the uncanny ability to come up with some of the dumbest ideas out there.

So many people didn’t want Ash cause of his Midwest ties but we’re going to fire Hobbs who is a Jersey guy and hire a guy from Northern Illinois to replace him. Right. Makes complete sense.

Hobbs, by all accounts has orchestrated a complete and massive overhaul of our athletic department. Putting aside the biggest fundraising campaign in recent memory, he’s deep into multiple, major facilities upgrades. Upgrades and additions we haven’t seen in 20+ years. On top of that, every Olympic hire has been a substantial improvement to the athletic department. In five games our men’s soccer team is sitting just outside of being nationally ranked. Let that sink in for a minute and use your exceptional reading comprehension skills and go back to 2018 and look at the results and their record. The list goes on and on for softball, crew, gymnastics and you can toss in men’s BB too.

I saw that you responded by answering you don’t want Hobbs fired. But I’m also not going to ignore the fact the you suggested hiring an AD from Temple or Cinn. as his replacement. Hobbs has more than earned the opportunity to hire a new football coach using the same approach and process he’s used to hire all of these coaches. Additionally, he will have more time to methodically do his due diligence just like he did for baseball and WLAX. If his knowledge is limited as you believe then obtain a well respected consultant like every other P5 program does in this country. There is no reason to make this harder then it has to be.

So yes, ignoring the total body of work cause you don’t like the Ash hire is nothing short of a complete joke.

 

[koleszar]

I didn’t missing anything in this thread. I know exactly what you wrote. And my reply was simple. It’s completely moronic.

Firing Hobbs for anyone you suggested wreaks of complete incompetence. But I’m not surprised at all. Many folks on this board have the uncanny ability to come up with some of the dumbest ideas out there.

So many people didn’t want Ash cause of his Midwest ties but we’re going to fire Hobbs who is a Jersey guy and hire a guy from Northern Illinois to replace him. Right. Makes complete sense.

Hobbs, by all accounts has orchestrated a complete and massive overhaul of our athletic department. Putting aside the biggest fundraising campaign in recent memory, he’s deep into multiple, major facilities upgrades. Upgrades and additions we haven’t seen in 20+ years. On top of that, every Olympic hire has been a substantial improvement to the athletic department. In five games our men’s soccer team is sitting just outside of being nationally ranked. Let that sink in for a minute and use your exceptional reading comprehension skills and go back to 2018 and look at the results and their record. The list goes on and on for softball, crew, gymnastics and you can toss in men’s BB too.

I saw that you responded by answering you don’t want Hobbs fired. But I’m also not going to ignore the fact the you suggested hiring an AD from Temple or Cinn. as his replacement. Hobbs has more than earned the opportunity to hire a new football coach using the same approach and process he’s used to hire all of these coaches. Additionally, he will have more time to methodically do his due diligence just like he did for baseball and WLAX. If his knowledge is limited as you believe then obtain a well respected consultant like every other P5 program does in this country. There is no reason to make this harder then it has to be.

So yes, ignoring the total body of work cause you don’t like the Ash hire is nothing short of a complete joke.

Got it. So no other person could possibly get the job done as AD at Rutgers. Any such hire would be considered stupid, dumb, incompetent and moronic. Your words mind you, of course you already knew that because nothing escapes you. You're like the black hole of knowledge. Seems like a narrowminded view point to me. Here's to hoping Hobbs is around for a long, long time because if not Rutgers Athletics is doomed.

 

[Scarlettrooper]

I didn’t missing anything in this thread. I know exactly what you wrote. And my reply was simple. It’s completely moronic.

Firing Hobbs for anyone you suggested wreaks of complete incompetence. But I’m not surprised at all. Many folks on this board have the uncanny ability to come up with some of the dumbest ideas out there.

So many people didn’t want Ash cause of his Midwest ties but we’re going to fire Hobbs who is a Jersey guy and hire a guy from Northern Illinois to replace him. Right. Makes complete sense.

Hobbs, by all accounts has orchestrated a complete and massive overhaul of our athletic department. Putting aside the biggest fundraising campaign in recent memory, he’s deep into multiple, major facilities upgrades. Upgrades and additions we haven’t seen in 20+ years. On top of that, every Olympic hire has been a substantial improvement to the athletic department. In five games our men’s soccer team is sitting just outside of being nationally ranked. Let that sink in for a minute and use your exceptional reading comprehension skills and go back to 2018 and look at the results and their record. The list goes on and on for softball, crew, gymnastics and you can toss in men’s BB too.

I saw that you responded by answering you don’t want Hobbs fired. But I’m also not going to ignore the fact the you suggested hiring an AD from Temple or Cinn. as his replacement. Hobbs has more than earned the opportunity to hire a new football coach using the same approach and process he’s used to hire all of these coaches. Additionally, he will have more time to methodically do his due diligence just like he did for baseball and WLAX. If his knowledge is limited as you believe then obtain a well respected consultant like every other P5 program does in this country. There is no reason to make this harder then it has to be.

So yes, ignoring the total body of work cause you don’t like the Ash hire is nothing short of a complete joke.

Got it. So no other person could possibly get the job done as AD at Rutgers. Any such hire would be considered stupid, dumb, incompetent and moronic. Your words mind you, of course you already knew that because nothing escapes you. You're like the black hole of knowledge. Seems like a narrowminded view point to me. Here's to hoping Hobbs is around for a long, long time because if not Rutgers Athletics is doomed.

Never said no once could get the job done here. My point was simple. Only our fans would want to fire the guy whose made more positive changes and improvements to our athletic department then our priors ADs have over arguably the last 20+ years. You make it sound so simple yet no one prior to Hobbs completed anything of significance facilities wise with the exception of a stadium expansion. Let’s fire the person who has actually demonstrated tangible improvement and progress here at RU for someone with an impressive resume. It’s so Rutgers.

People laugh at us because we make so damn easy.

 

[Caliknight]

I didn’t missing anything in this thread. I know exactly what you wrote. And my reply was simple. It’s completely moronic.

Firing Hobbs for anyone you suggested wreaks of complete incompetence. But I’m not surprised at all. Many folks on this board have the uncanny ability to come up with some of the dumbest ideas out there.

So many people didn’t want Ash cause of his Midwest ties but we’re going to fire Hobbs who is a Jersey guy and hire a guy from Northern Illinois to replace him. Right. Makes complete sense.

Hobbs, by all accounts has orchestrated a complete and massive overhaul of our athletic department. Putting aside the biggest fundraising campaign in recent memory, he’s deep into multiple, major facilities upgrades. Upgrades and additions we haven’t seen in 20+ years. On top of that, every Olympic hire has been a substantial improvement to the athletic department. In five games our men’s soccer team is sitting just outside of being nationally ranked. Let that sink in for a minute and use your exceptional reading comprehension skills and go back to 2018 and look at the results and their record. The list goes on and on for softball, crew, gymnastics and you can toss in men’s BB too.

I saw that you responded by answering you don’t want Hobbs fired. But I’m also not going to ignore the fact the you suggested hiring an AD from Temple or Cinn. as his replacement. Hobbs has more than earned the opportunity to hire a new football coach using the same approach and process he’s used to hire all of these coaches. Additionally, he will have more time to methodically do his due diligence just like he did for baseball and WLAX. If his knowledge is limited as you believe then obtain a well respected consultant like every other P5 program does in this country. There is no reason to make this harder then it has to be.

So yes, ignoring the total body of work cause you don’t like the Ash hire is nothing short of a complete joke.

Hobbs is the best AD we've ever had. By a long mile.

 

[koleszar]

Never said no once could get the job done here. My point was simple. Only our fans would want to fire the guy whose made more positive changes and improvements to our athletic department then our priors ADs have over arguably the last 20+ years. You make it sound so simple yet no one prior to Hobbs completed anything of significance facilities wise with the exception of a stadium expansion. Let’s fire the person who has actually demonstrated tangible improvement and progress here at RU for someone with an impressive resume. It’s so Rutgers.

People laugh at us because we make so damn easy.

Fair enough. Like I said I don't want the guy fired, he should get a chance to rectify a huge mistake. However, it's imperative he gets the next hire right. And I'm not talking Championships here. Just competitive football which get's fannies in the seats. A 12,000 season ticket reduction since Ash was hired is a lot of money for a cash strapped athletic department. We're talking $4.2 mil. in just ticket sales per year. Now add in parking, seat donations, concessions and merchandize sales and you're approaching $8mil to $9mil in lost revenue a year.

 

[ruready07]

Hobbs is the best AD we've ever had. By a long mile.

I don’t know if the best ADs are timid when it comes to their football program. But otherwise, he’s solid

 

[TRU2RU]

Yes, if you used reading comprehension and followed the thread between myself and @bigmatt718, I clearly stated I didn't want Hobbs fired. The hypothetical situation was posed by bigmatt if not Hobbs then who? I answered with who I felt would be good AD's here. If you had bothered to look up their history, you would have seen they have been good at several Universities.

With that information now in hand, which you clearly missed, what do you find stupid about the post. That these are not viable candidates or that Kate Sweeney didn't railroad Sean Frazier. You do know the latter was widely reported on, right?

I have a very close friend who worked for Frazier while he was at Wisconsin,suffice to say there is good reason why no major school would hire Frazier & why Frazier had to leave Wisconsin, for once RU properly vetted someone

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Hobbs isn’t getting fired NOR should he be. He made an error in a rushed situation, hiring Ash, the rest is all just whiny crap, I’ll bet dollars-to-donuts that he nails the next hire as head football coach,

Is it a “chinch” in his armor”?? Absolutely, and a big one right now, but one he can (eventually) fix.