Take a look at what basketball and football players major in at Rutgers. A huge percentage have a Labor Studies major. So yes, there is a jock major. Not only do we not have science majors playing sports, there are very few Econ or Comp Sci majors either, maybe the 2 most popular majors university wide. Don’t kid yourself as to the difficulty of the academic programs our major sport athletes are taking. And I don’t particularly blame them given their schedules. But recognize the truth.
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Definitely mean less and then we hear stuff like they can't be criticized
I don't know anything about the major aside from looking at the department's web site. It's certainly not physics, but it's also not "football theory"or "practical physical science" as can be found elsewhere. Perhaps it's not the greatest major but, as I I say, a degree is a degree. It's a great credential no matter what you majored in. https://smlr.rutgers.edu/academic-p...s-degrees-labor-employment-relations/course-0
I wouldn't care less if Ace decommitted and went somewhere else for more NIL. I don't follow recruiting and haven't seen a single highlight of Ace Bailey or even Dylan Harper.
I'll watch them when (if) they ever get to Rutgers. Not a shot at anyone, but I choose to not spend my limited free time following the whims of high school athletes on social media. Wake me when they arrive.
However, I'm not going to bash Miami or Auburn for enticing players with NIL and say how terrible it is that these schools are doing that. Meanwhile, our school is literally doing the same thing.
Rutgers isn't some pristine virginal woods anymore. The fake "well they only win because they cheat - they buy players" argument doesn't fly anymore.
We are playing in the same arena as every other school - especially in college basketball.
Regarding academics, you're right. I don't know how important it is or isn't. But if a player is only using college as a couple months to 1 year layover on their way to a professional career - clearly their academic future wasn't the highest priority.
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They are all taking the same thing. That’s a pretty good hint to the difficulty of the program. And I am happy RU does not offer Football Theory. .
Interestingly enough, there was a time when there were a lot of athletes taking Criminal Justice; I don't know why. I'm sure you'd agree that whatever the deficiencies of Labor Studies, it is better than majoring in Women's and Gender Studies -- a major that Rutgers also offers.https://womens-studies.rutgers.edu/
The players don't really have to do anything. It's Name, Image and Likeness.
A company could have pictures hanging in its hallways of these players. They can use the player's name in company literature.
If you win a state lottery they can use your name, image and likeness.
I recommend wearing a disguise when getting your 💰
I was sitting in Rocks for Jocks right after the OJ verdict took place. There must have been 200 of us in our cars in the RAC parking lot listening on the radio. And then as soon as the verdict was read, simultaneously all of the car doors opened and people started hustling into class. And yes, it was not easy. Also not easy? Intro to Dinosaurs. Bugs and Dudes, however, was very easy.
So we remember the same thing. Do you have any idea why, or why that ended?
Some schools have courses in religion called Gods for Clods.
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Had a friend taking Dinosaurs freshman year (I think?)
It looked crazy hard. Having to learn and know all the scientific names for the dinosaurs.
I think it's a natural transition for college athletes, who are actually concerned about having a career when they graduate, to pick law enforcement. Also, 95% of the classes were on Livingston, so if you lived on Livingston or Busch, it was easier to get to class. The other one that I remember being common was whatever the sports medicine major was called ... with the idea being that they'd graduate and become high school trainers in the athletics department.
There was one exam in that class where you had to know the names of all of the dinosaur bones. I remember thinking, I don't even know the names of the human bones, how the hell can anyone pass this?
Makes sense -- but I wonder why it stopped being so popular. The sports medicine major you're thinking of may have been Kinesiology. That looks hard to me! https://sas.rutgers.edu/future-student/2595-kinesiology-and-health
College stopped being about getting a job when you graduate and started focusing on being a resort for four years (with art, social justice and gender studies degrees).
Why?- because these "endorsement" deals are complete bullshit. These players add ZERO value to the company paying them. Literally mob style no work deals. If this company is publicly traded they are violating their fiduciary duty to share holders.
The money for this will dry up except in the cases like Miami. Billionaire using your program as a toy. Good luck with that model when he moves on to the next shiny thing.
you preferred when the NCAA schools colluded and acted illegally against anti trust laws to deny athletes compensation they could readily receive in the free market? Yikes
Disagree. If they could "readily receive it in the free market," why did they choose to not receive it and attend a NCAA school instead?
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Doesn't HC Schiano use a helicopter in return for endorsement by Rutgers?
How many people have used a private helicopter just because HC Schiano uses it?
What's the return on that endorsement?
How has the return on investment for donations to the football program been for a decade?
If the players were so insignificant, then why do programs and coaches literally beg fans to produce NIL funds?
Just get any other player then.
The schools themselves are literally saying the players have value.
Any NCAA team cannot exist by itself (in any sport). Further, the value of all NCAA teams, in any sport, are raised when the sport itself has an appearance of competitive balance. As soon as you make it so teams appear to be completely unable to field a competitive team, the value of both the inferior team ... and the superior team ... will fall. This is not just true of the NCAA sports, but all sports leagues.
Right now, the NCAA is just a series of sports leagues with no salary cap. Ultimately, it will kill the sports for 90% of the schools and 90% of the potential student athletes. Ask the Pittsburgh Pirates how great this business model is.
I think you mean NAIA not NCAA - if they went NAIA, they'd receive a fraction of their value in the free market because of the anti-competitive practices of the NCAA.
I'm not a lawyer, but I do enjoy a good read. From the unanimous Supreme Court decision:
”The Court does so based on the uncontested premise that the NCAA enjoys monopsony control in the relevant market— such that it is capable of depressing wages below competitive levels for student-athletes and thereby restricting the quantity of student-athlete labor.”
Just a minor thing for those who may not know: a "monopsony" is a situation in which there is only one buyer of a good, as opposed to a "monopoly" -- when there is only one producer. Both have anti-competitive effects and so both sare restricted by the anti-trust laws.
So you are concerned about these companies ?? Maybe write a letter to the CEO. Maybe you know more than them about running successful company
What?
I said no such thing.
Maybe I feel both systems are shitty.
You speak for you and I'll speak for me.
Oh, you mean like Schiano ACTUALLY using their service and having their helicopters take off and land in crowded places to much fanfare?
That would literally be the definition of an actual endorsement of the product.
If folks don't understand my point just say so . I'll explain it using little words.
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My comment was about fiduciary responsibility to share holders in a publicly traded company (if it is one). Nothing to do with my concerns.
He can do with HIS money whatever he sees fit.
If he's giving millions of corporate dollars to college kids with no measurable return, his shareholders if there are any, may have an issue.
Sorry I thought since you were on a college basketball board that you like watching college basketball my bad please forgive me
Since you clearly didn't understand my point.....
And how does that fanfare translate to sales/rentals foe the helicopter company?
Are all those HS students taking planes to school?
Do you even know the company name? I don't.
If it's a tweet from Hunter Dickinson or HC Schiano arriving in a helicopter or the name "SHI" on a football stadium - most endorsements are worthless.
Need to spend a marketing budget.
I don't drink any more or less Miller Lite just because it's an official partner with Rutgers.
That’s true . But why would you be concerned . That’s the shareholders fight to take up
Miami NIL guy John Ruiz is a trial lawyer. Lifewallet a litigation finance business that is publicly traded on NASDAQ. The Lifewallet stock is -90% this year.
Lifewallet announced Thursday night it won't file its 2022 financials on time because its accounts are a mess. John cancelled the investor conference call scheduled for yesterday.
John stands by his claim Lifewallet is worth $32 billion.
Can Rutgers find a booster like John Ruiz?
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Many thanks! The postponement could mean something, or it could mean very little. https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/postponeearnings.asp
I completely understood the point and you made mine.
You thought about Schiano using the helicopters somehow right? Even if it was from this board. Immediate connection.
When you think about Miami athletes do you connect them with a medicare/Medicaid reimbursement recovery company? I'm betting no for you and everybody in else America.
Do I really have to explain why having your company name on the front of a stadium promotes a business?
Molsen/Coors thanks you for drinking Miller Lite. Guess their marketing is effective.
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