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We should have between 6-10 wins this season. I don't see us missing a bowl game with our weak OOC slate.
 
Too much is put into returning starters. If you don't have enough, then you're likely to struggle. Impact of players like Turay or Lewis coming from USCe are never factored into the equation. Part of the problem are sites like this or even some national publications don't bother to look beyond the surface of most teams. How else do you explain the absence of players like Turay or Patton or some other player who we as fans are aware of their impact on the performance off the team. I love reading how Hamilton is the only impact defensive lineman returning. I get a kick out of ignorance when it comes to the names on the front of the jersey.
 
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This year we will probably win at least as many games as Michigan. Harbaugh was left with a rebuild, and it takes a few years to get it done. UM is depleted, and isn't as deep at skill positions as we are, especially if we get decent play from the QB position. And the defense will be good this year. Maybe not great, but good. I see 8 wins with a bowl victory.
 
RU205 said:
http://www.maizenbrew.com/2015/8/9/9121433/predicting-b1g-east-win-totals-for-2015

He has RU winning 5 or less games this year. I would assume he had 1-7 or 0-8 in conference.

He also has Indiana going to a bowl this year.
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It really comes own to QB play. Get decent QB play and I think we get to 6 or 7 wins. If neither of the QBs really works out, then 5 or even 4 isnt out of the question at all. The OOC is easy - but WSU wont be a push over, and last year the only conference game that was was Indiana and they supposedly have improved (QB is healthy, replaced Coleman with an equally talented transfer).

I suspect it will be alot like last year where the difference between 4 and 8 wins is not all that much at all - basically luck.
 
RU205 said:
http://www.maizenbrew.com/2015/8/9/9121433/predicting-b1g-east-win-totals-for-2015

He has RU winning 5 or less games this year. I would assume he had 1-7 or 0-8 in conference.

He also has Indiana going to a bowl this year.
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He actually has us winning 4 or less.

Rutgers 5 (Over -145/Under +105)
Pick: Rutgers Scarlet Knight Under 5 Wins (+105)

You could make the case that 5 is a push (no play), which means "no more than 5", but the under bet means he's expecting us to go winless in B1G play. He has Ohio State as Layoff (no play) on a totals of 11 wins, so you could make the case he's picking them to lose two conference games (one conference loss and an OOC loss would still get them to at least a bowl game where they could win 11).
 
sherrane said:
He actually has us winning 4 or less.

Rutgers 5 (Over -145/Under +105)
Pick: Rutgers Scarlet Knight Under 5 Wins (+105)

You could make the case that 5 is a push (no play), which means "no more than 5", but the under bet means he's expecting us to go winless in B1G play. He has Ohio State as Layoff (no play) on a totals of 11 wins, so you could make the case he's picking them to lose two conference games (one conference loss and an OOC loss would still get them to at least a bowl game where they could win 11).
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I cant see a case for picking the under. I mean I can see it happening, but I dont think that 4 or under is more likely to happen than 5 or more.
 
As Doug stated, "I love reading how Hamilton is the only impact defensive lineman returning. I get a kick out of ignorance when it comes to the names on the front of the jersey."
Because we do know our players better than any hack, outside of NJ(and sometimes inside of NJ), we know that goals like 10 wins and a Championship, will only be outlandish or not practical when speaking of it in 2016. Or at least, that's the way I look at this season. Everyone wants to be the guru who predicted the correct amount of wins, 4, 5, 8(is a good season), really!
And why? So, they can come back months later, and say, "you see I predicted that."
No thanks, I would rather be the guy who pushes for excellence, sets my goals high, and strive to achieve them daily. And truthfully, thank you to the naysayers, because you are the ones who help me shine, and reach my goals.

"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his Goal; Nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude!" Thomas Jefferson
 
rutgersal said:
We are going to drop 40+ on Michigan
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All seriousness, I think we do too Al. That would be huge to drop 40 on them in the big house... Especially to show those NJ kids that didn't want to play for the home team that they are missing the boat.
 
red sail said:
All seriousness, I think we do too Al. That would be huge to drop 40 on them in the big house... Especially to show those NJ kids that didn't want to play for the home team that they are missing the boat.
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Just curious, with an O-line not very deep, our starting TE gone, no QB as the clear cut starter, and the fact we "only" scored 26 on them last year, at home, why do you think we will put up 40?
 
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red sail said:
All seriousness, I think we do too Al. That would be huge to drop 40 on them in the big house... Especially to show those NJ kids that didn't want to play for the home team that they are missing the boat.
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That would be great, as long as Michigan doesn't drop 50 on us! There are two sides of the ball you know.
 
mikemarc1 said:
Just curious, with an O-line not very deep, our starting TE gone, no QB as the clear cut starter, and the fact we "only" scored 26 on them last year, at home, why do you think we will put up 40?
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I'll field this one, you only need 5 players to play on the OLine, our new TE is known for his blocking with the ability to catch a ball as needed(that's what Kroft did last year), and the fact the we have a new QB, to me is a plus. Half full kinda guy, the world looks much better that way.
 
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mikemarc1 said:
Just curious, with an O-line not very deep, our starting TE gone, no QB as the clear cut starter, and the fact we "only" scored 26 on them last year, at home, why do you think we will put up 40?
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We will have a veteran offensive line with lumpkin, denman, muller, and Brodie. I think our QB will be upgraded with either Rettig or Laviano. Our line will give one of these 2 inexperienced QBs more time to go through progressions. All of our RBs return and all of our core WRs return anchored by Caroo, Grant, and Tsimis. Hopefully a TE and FB steps up.
There are 2 sides of the ball but I think our Defense is better than last years.
Call me a homer but i love NJ and am a proud alum.
 
mikemarc1 said:
Just curious, with an O-line not very deep, our starting TE gone, no QB as the clear cut starter, and the fact we "only" scored 26 on them last year, at home, why do you think we will put up 40?
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Well, just to play angel's advocate (?)...

OLine depth really only matters if there's injuries. It's more about chemistry. In 2006, there were OL questions coming in, but they gelled fast and stayed healthy and had a great season. Second year with Browning as OL coach should help, and additional size that wasn't there last year should too. The OL could actually take a step forward this year.

Yes, Kroft is gone, but we really didn't use him much last year, either (only 269 yards and 0 TDs) - which may have factored into his decision to leave early. I think our current stable of TEs can match his 2014 productivity, simply because he wasn't asked to do a whole lot.

Hopefully by the Michigan game (Game 9), we'll have a clear QB starter who has established himself in the position. Have to go on the assumption that by that point in the season a QB will have won the spot and will have 8 live games under his belt.

As for only scoring 26 last year... Michigan loses its two starting DEs and MLB (who were #1-3 in sacks and tackles for loss last year). While they'll also have had 8 games to adjust to the new coaching and new starters, it's never easy to lose the three best players in your front 7.

....now, I'm not expecting us to ring up 40 in Ann Arbor, but it's not entirely impossible to think if your glasses are scarlet-colored enough. :)
 
KnightsofChrome said:
I'll field this one, you only need 5 players to play on the OLine, our new TE is known for his blocking with the ability to catch a ball as needed(that's what Kroft did last year), and the fact the we have a new QB, to me is a plus. Half full kinda guy, the world looks much better that way.
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Chrome is on his game today.
 
Love all your optimism! Just can't see it, that's all.

Think Rutgers is going to be known for their defense, and is going to be in a bunch of 20-17, 14-10, type of games this season. We will see.
 
derleider said:
I cant see a case for picking the under. I mean I can see it happening, but I dont think that 4 or under is more likely to happen than 5 or more.
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I agree. I also think he believes we are going to beat Maryland. He has them under 4 wins while they play Richmond, Bowling Green, USF, and West Virginia OOC. They'll probably lose to WVU and Bowling Green will give them a game, but they should be now worse than 3-1. My thought is that the author believes we'll lose to someone OOC (probably Washington State).
 
sherrane said:
I agree. I also think he believes we are going to beat Maryland. He has them under 4 wins while they play Richmond, Bowling Green, USF, and West Virginia OOC. They'll probably lose to WVU and Bowling Green will give them a game, but they should be now worse than 3-1. My thought is that the author believes we'll lose to someone OOC (probably Washington State).
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Interesting that you see them losing to Bowling Green. I don't know much about BG, but I can't see the Terps losing to them even with their recent roster issues.
 
RutgersRaRa said:
Interesting that you see them losing to Bowling Green. I don't know much about BG, but I can't see the Terps losing to them even with their recent roster issues.
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BG has a high powered offense returning. Last year's starting QB is the backup this year. The original starter is back. BG has issues on defense, but I do know they can score. Just ask Indiana who lost to them last year.
 
He didn't say 'losing' to BG. He said BG will give them a game. In other words, a tough one.

It all depends on the development of the QBs. There is experience in the OL, but yes, they need to 'jell' like they did in 2006, and that OL was rated #1 in the country by year's end. We have the RBs to help control the play and the passing game should develop over the course of the season (hopefully), similarly to 2006.

Let's see if the players live up to their OWN expectations. They claim their target is 10 wins Two early contests will tell: WSU and PSU. Get those, and things will be looking good.

Indiana is claiming a goal of 10 wins also. I wonder who the OTHER loss they will have, outside of RU.
 
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The 2 new comers to the B1G are picked to finish with the least amount of wins by a writer who follows a traditional B1G power.

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!
 
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Coleman was really good, do not think replacement is as good. Coleman had over 200 yards vs Ohio State.
 
BoroKnight said:
Last year, against the worst Michigan team of our lifetimes, at home, we managed 26 in a two-point win. With a veteran QB.
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It helps when you factor in matchups, personnel changes, schemes, etc. Btw, it was QB Garner who keep UM in the game. Now he's gone and that explains why UM has 11 total QB on the roster this fall. Didn't WR Funchness (best receiver & only threat) go to the NFL.
 
Actually I figured that 3-9 Michigan squad from I think '09 or so was worse, but what do I know...


Joe P.
 
His words at the bottom "Does anything stand out to you guys". Yea you suck at this and should find a new profession.
 
mikemarc1 said:
Just curious, with an O-line not very deep, our starting TE gone, no QB as the clear cut starter, and the fact we "only" scored 26 on them last year, at home, why do you think we will put up 40?
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This years will be the deepest, most mature oline we've ever had. All 5 projected starting OL have played and four of the 5 are seniors. The reserves might be light on experience but they're long on potential, and all have been in the program at least a year.

With Carroo, Agudosi, Grant and Patton in our WR corp, we won't need to throw to the TE as much. And the few times we will, Arcidiacono and Griffin will hold their own. Arch can play, but he just hasn't been given an opportunity in the passing game, but has shown to be an effective blocker.

Michigan didn't have to face Patton and Agudosi and Grant ate them alive. Additionally, they didn't have to face Paul James, Josh Hicks, or Robert Martin.
By the time we face them game 10, they are going to be beaten up, having just faced MSU and Minnesota, two especially tough B1G tough teams. Well have gone through a gauntlet of our own but the big difference is that they don't have the talent and depth that we have.

Michigan will be good one year. It won't be this year.
 
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My best guess is we have the following probable wins:

Norfolk St.
Wash St.
Kansas
Army

and the following probable losses:

Mich St.
Ohio St.
Wisconsin
Michigan
Nebraska

That leaves us at 4-5 with the following toss-up:

Penn St.
Indiana
Maryland

I think we beat Indiana and Maryland and lose to Penn St.

That makes us 6-6

Add in that we probably win one game we shouldn't win and lose one game we should win (the WTF games) and we're still 6-6.
 
red sail said:
We will have a veteran offensive line with lumpkin, denman, muller, and Brodie. I think our QB will be upgraded with either Rettig or Laviano. Our line will give one of these 2 inexperienced QBs more time to go through progressions. All of our RBs return and all of our core WRs return anchored by Caroo, Grant, and Tsimis. Hopefully a TE and FB steps up.
There are 2 sides of the ball but I think our Defense is better than last years.
Call me a homer but i love NJ and am a proud alum.
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Brodie? If he is playing it means we are screwed as he's basically last on the depth chart even behind RS Frosh like Heeman. Hell hes probably behind Jonah Jackson.
 
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Mr Magoo said:
My best guess is we have the following probable wins:

Norfolk St.
Wash St.
Kansas
Army

and the following probable losses:

Mich St.
Ohio St.
Wisconsin
Michigan
Nebraska

That leaves us at 4-5 with the following toss-up:

Penn St.
Indiana
Maryland

I think we beat Indiana and Maryland and lose to Penn St.

That makes us 6-6

Add in that we probably win one game we shouldn't win and lose one game we should win (the WTF games) and we're still 6-6.
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Can you explain to me why Michigan is a probable loss?
 
LevaosLectures said:
Brodie? If he is playing it means we are screwed as he's basically last on the depth chart even behind RS Frosh like Heeman. Hell hes probably behind Jonah Jackson.
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Have you seen Brodie lately? He will bench press you with his pinkie and squash you like a bug. The only thing Brodie is missing is an opportunity. He's done his work in the weight room, that's for sure.
 
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Oh, Mr. Magoo you have done it again!
 
Mr Magoo said:
My best guess is we have the following probable wins:

Norfolk St.
Wash St.
Kansas
Army

and the following probable losses:

Mich St.
Ohio St.
Wisconsin
Michigan
Nebraska

That leaves us at 4-5 with the following toss-up:

Penn St.
Indiana
Maryland

I think we beat Indiana and Maryland and lose to Penn St.

That makes us 6-6

Add in that we probably win one game we shouldn't win and lose one game we should win (the WTF games) and we're still 6-6.
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I think you've got it right if you move Michigan to the toss up. No way to justify calling that a probable loss. Heck, this whole thread is about that, so if you have a reason, say so. That puts us at 6-6 if we split the toss-ups. I think we will only lose to one of them, and finish with 7 wins.
 
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