Well said . Spoken by someone that knows . Basically we are supporting the program to a level that will suck . Schiano is mediocre , which is great considering our level of support . It would seem based on your analysis Schiano is actually overachieving. It’s amazing some others here want to run the guy out
We played a schedule that did not include OSU, PSU, Michigan or Oregon and still had a losing record in conference… in year 5 of 2.0 with a roster of entirely his guys. That’s worth $6.5 million to you? You hiring? I’ll do it for 20%
Cmon you and everyone else knows schiano isn’t going anywhere.
You're right . They are not. But here's your greatest season ever scenerio.
At RU I would argue that's upper mid level. That certainly doesn't help if that happened to you. When Marco was my rep he never did a thing for me and I purposefully waited until the last day of the cutoff to see if he would reach out and he did.
Mid level is absolutely not a 4 figure donation and multiple 6 figure donations is not high level at OSU/Michigan. They have endowments for position coaches, think about that one for a moment. You're out of your element here.
exactly what Shift said. I personally made what could have been a six figure proposal to Rutgers this past June and after multiple emails and phone calls it went absolutely nowhere. The person I was going back and forth with just stopped responding.
He definitely underachieved this year. Indiana had an equally shitty schedule and was in CFP Year 1. Now their NIL was 3x ours so you can point to that but NIL didn't lose Kansas, UCLA and Illinois games.
Marco is a good man and he has always been good to us. He has moved up the Foundation ladder, and the R Fund and the Foundation have more formally merged, for lack of a better word. Our bigger issues have been with the old Foundation, and the Athletics people had to constantly step into carry their water. We have more to give, but we are going to focus on what we consider more personally worthy causes.
Then they should do that. Because whining on the internet isn’t accomplishing anything.
I have detailed my experience on here many of times. Mine mimics yours and shifts to a tee. I take mine a little further. I was invited to assist with fundraising early Schiano tenure through young alumni NYC (specifically to get wall st involved). Me and the others did our job. Got great turnout and commitments from many people. Multiple millions of dollars raised over multiple year commitments. Very little of that was actually collected. All due to little or no follow up from RU athletics and foundation.
Wowsa!
Our program doesn’t suck because of the fans …. Far from it. Based on the countless years of futility { most recently 2014-2019} we show up on Saturdays to support the team. We have moved up to the strongest conference in CFB but have not upgraded the HC position to be a factor in this Conference . Poor Coaching led to at least 2 losses this year that never should have happened. We continue to ask why our Coach doesn’t make adjustments or prepare his team properly. 2.0 ceiling is apparently 7 wins. Accept it or we move on.
Not according to the OP and many others. We have reason to celebrate a mediocre season as good value for our mediocre donations. You're the one expecting superior results.
So what do we do? Put her name on the court.
Truly an asinine decision by Hobbs and Holloway.
Wow, we exceded the Vegas win total of 3 1/2 league wins in GS's fifth year, and we had a great season by "historical standards" Therein lies the problem - being happy with meeting such low expectations. Unfortunate. That said, I think GS does a decent job.
Not sure if it was worse than rewarding her a new contract and allowing her to never report to work again. Or Holding the entire athletic department hostage for 10+ years.
Hobbs did a lot of dumb stuff. Honestly, I'm not sure if his good outweighed his bad.
I don't have that data but you are welcome to google giving in the B1G. R Fund even gives out pamphlets on this stuff. They drawf us on a chart regarding total giving levels YOY. Like a maple tree vs a shrub.
I will allow 5-10% towards RU. We all have had stories like that but the need to give is bigger than the occasional clown who is not good at their fundraising job. I don't plan to stop giving to RU if I happen to get a terrible R Fund rep and frankly I already went through one.
athletic. Shift got me a new contact and I will be in touch with them come the new year. I've since cut my proposal in half as a starting point.
oh wow. I remember you doing this work at the time but didn't know about the end result. I was going to say shocking, but not really unfortunately. Geez that's some serious cash.
Exactly my experience. It wasn’t the reps that dropped the ball. Because very few reps were involved. They were bypassed in most cases we were dealing directly with leadership. The excuses given were amazing. No accountability. And general malaise.
That is terrible. Did you directly engage with Hobbs?
Yeah that blows my mind. What I have learned is many people in many areas are incompetent at their jobs. That is not just a Rutgers issue although I understand your frustration completely. If no one answers you DM me please. I am connected to people at the foundation and know enough people on all the boards at RU to raise a stink quickly. IMO there is a big difference between the athletic side of Rutgers and the academic side. The academic side things go into a completely black hole. Athletics I know what levers to pull to get things to happen sometimes.
If it were not for my athletic levers, I would have given up. My athletics contact is still flipping levers for an endowed scholarship on the academic side, where the phone is never answered and e-mails are never returned.
Doug Dolan was excellent. After he left, everything went to pot. Just as we once transplanted Miamis football culture to Rutgers, we should probably transplant their fundraising office culture to Rutgers, as they are very good at following up. Heck, get Princeton’s athletics fundraising head in here. Private schools are especially proficient at raising money and following up.
