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Mike Williams = HEART !!!!

ScarletKid2008

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I can't say enough about how hard Mike Williams plays man. He out hustles EVERYONE on the court. Gives us a few extra possessions every game. Dramatically improved his defense this year. Out rebounding guys 6 inches taller than him. Love this kid. He is the true definition of a captain and the type of player To lead a Pikell defense.

Caught myself a few times tonight screaming at the TV "yeah Mike ! Yeah Mike!" So I just thought he deserves a ton of recognition for being an absolute beast out there
 
I love Mike. He plays hard. But after three years he still shoots bricks when it matters.
 
Mike is a tough player. He's physical and not afraid to go after it. Doesn't take a possession off. He's exactly what you want out of a guard when it comes to D and rebounding. He works hard
 
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That's the effort you expect to see from a captain.
Well deserved title.
 
I was really impressed by his rebounding tonight. He took at least two off the offensive glass with 3 osu players around him.
 
Williams would be a very good player coming off the bench because he contributes in many ways.His lack of consistency shooting has disappointed me because he was far better in high school against very good competition.
 
If you notice with Mike he gets the ball late a lot of times with shot clock winding down and he has to rush his shot. Happens a lot. Love the kid. Watch the games and clock is winding down because a lot of kids on team can't shoot.
 
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Not true at all. Plays hard, great effort and hustle, great rebounder but awful shooter missing wide open shots with plenty of time on the shot clock. 5 for 14 today. Hurt us big time again.
 
He would be the greatest bench/energy player on a good team. Unfortunately, Rutgers needs him to be more than that, and he can't always deliver the necessary baskets.
 
Love the hustle and desire but can't miss 10 shots a game. That doesn't win you games. That's a major problem popular fan favorite or not.
 
Williams plays his a** off.

Corey doesnt foul out we win.

Also wth is with multiple 3 pt fouls.... killer.
 
Sometimes playing your @ss off is a problem when you miss twenty shots in two games. Just sayin'
 
Stop it please. The four point foul?
Corey is the face of the program.

Williams plays his a** off.

Corey doesnt foul out we win.

Also wth is with multiple 3 pt fouls.... killer.

NO! We were better without him. The ball moves and the offense works.

On his 5th foul 4 players converge on him, Corey had Freeman for the dunk or Thaim for 3 and instead he charges.

It is so easy to stop us offensively. Coaches know Corey goes right and he NEVER passes when going to the rim. NEVER. Has to change.
 
What gives us a better chance to win Corey driving or Williams going 5 for 15? Look up last two losses and get back to me. I'll wait.
 
NO! We were better without him. The ball moves and the offense works.

On his 5th foul 4 players converge on him, Corey had Freeman for the dunk or Thaim for 3 and instead he charges.

It is so easy to stop us offensively. Coaches know Corey goes right and he NEVER passes when going to the rim. NEVER. Has to change.

I recall 1 play tonight where he drove to the hoop and kicked to I think Thiam in the right corner (Thiam did not shoot it)
 
I recall 1 play tonight where he drove to the hoop and kicked to I think Thiam in the right corner (Thiam did not shoot it)

Yes. He wasn't in head down drive to basket mode. Corey needs to watch Melo Trimble play. He can go to hoop or pass to a cutter someone on the blocks.

I thought Corey was terribly inefficient tonight. 4 assists to 3 turnovers. He really had 5 turnovers as the offnesive foul on Gettys was on him for dribbling before CJ was set and you dont make a backdoor cut and stop.

For the amount of time the ball was in his hands and the amount of penetration to the hoops Corey probably succeedeed 1 in 3 times at best.
 
NO! We were better without him. The ball moves and the offense works.

On his 5th foul 4 players converge on him, Corey had Freeman for the dunk or Thaim for 3 and instead he charges.

It is so easy to stop us offensively. Coaches know Corey goes right and he NEVER passes when going to the rim. NEVER. Has to change.

What??? On his 5th foul he shook his defender and had a window to the hoop and a 2nd defender stepped in at the last second for what should have probably been an block.

It's so easy to stop us offensively because we're offensively challenged. Your dislike for the kid is clear. Again, he doesn't have many viable options to dish it to. Thiam takes about 3 seconds to unload a shot if he even gets to that point. Freeman gets stuffed pretty often in and around the hoop and his best chance of scoring is on 2nd chance opportunities. Gettys plays better with his back to the basket and Williams is more of a spot shooter. Nigel, Laurent, Omoyuri, Doorson and Sa are not viable scorers.

Sanders does not really play selfish ball which I've been pleasantly surprised about after watching his highlight videos before he made it to campus. He's shown the ability and willingness to pass.

Whether he goes right most of the time or not Sanders is pretty much the only guy who can create his own shot by shaking/eluding the defender and getting to the basket. If it wasn't for him we would be getting blown out in quite a few more games this year.

Does he have some things to work on? Sure. But your beef with him is odd and seems personal.
 
What??? On his 5th foul he shook his defender and had a window to the hoop and a 2nd defender stepped in at the last second for what should have probably been an block.

It's so easy to stop us offensively because we're offensively challenged. Your dislike for the kid is clear. Again, he doesn't have many viable options to dish it to. Thiam takes about 3 seconds to unload a shot if he even gets to that point. Freeman gets stuffed pretty often in and around the hoop and his best chance of scoring is on 2nd chance opportunities. Gettys plays better with his back to the basket and Williams is more of a spot shooter. Nigel, Laurent, Omoyuri, Doorson and Sa are not viable scorers.

Sanders does not really play selfish ball which I've been pleasantly surprised about after watching his highlight videos before he made it to campus. He's shown the ability and willingness to pass.

Whether he goes right most of the time or not Sanders is pretty much the only guy who can create his own shot by shaking/eluding the defender and getting to the basket. If it wasn't for him we would be getting blown out in quite a few more games this year.

Does he have some things to work on? Sure. But your beef with him is odd and seems personal.

4 players converged...had freeman for an easy dunk.

i just think he hurts us more than he helps....look at shooting percentages 1,2 and3 pointers. look at assist to turnovers...look at B1G wins.

At some point you have to conclude he is a major part of the problem. he killed us tonight.

again how many times has he passed the ball when he penetrates hard to the rim....NONE. I blame Pikiell.
 
4 players converged...had freeman for an easy dunk.

i just think he hurts us more than he helps....look at shooting percentages 1,2 and3 pointers. look at assist to turnovers...look at B1G wins.

At some point you have to conclude he is a major part of the problem. he killed us tonight.

again how many times has he passed the ball when he penetrates hard to the rim....NONE. I blame Pikiell.

Greene....normally I would agree with you on the team concept, but from ground level, it's impossible to see the players that we can see from the camera view or watching higher on TV.

I watched the Iowa game from very close in the 100's, where I rarely sit that close to the floor and I can recall my own playing days in HS....you need exceptional court vision to spot the players that we see on TV as "open" and RU has just 2 turnovers in the second half....one on the 5th foul by Sanders and the last one by Nigel under a minute left, when the game was kinda decided.

Sanders doesn't have the ability in the forest of trees of these players to find the open man the way it appears to be clearly available on TV...at court level, I have no idea how Nigel Johnson or Corey Sanders could get a clear look at the basket, over the size and long arms that Iowa presented.....Ohio State is athletic, with good size and quick hands....Sanders probably could've made those pressure passes, but they likely are turnovers or not converted or finished....some of those would have been turnovers and quick baskets. vs him trying a difficult shot, that could get rebounded by one of our guys for a 2nd or 3rd chance....on a couple of Sanders drives, he was bumped considerably and almost had two other difficult right hand layups just come off the rim.

On the topic of the thread, Mike Williams was 5-14, but created more offense by attacking the glass and had a key steal and layup and plays good defense almost every single possession. I am pretty confident that if Geo Baker and Mamadou Doucoure are here and thriving next year, they will be taking their cue on playing hard and competing from both Mike Williams and Corey Sanders..

I had one forced shot that Mike took a little quick or that wasn't up against the shot clock....shooting percentages are impacted because RU doesn't get a lot of shots up early in the shot clock and if charted, I'd imagine most of Williams shots are under 7 seconds on the shot clock....that's a lot of defensive pressure or places that are tough to make shots with.....he's 35% from 3, after spending almost all of last years B1G schedule before the Minnesota finale at below 25%....that's a big increase from 25% to 35% from 3 and Mike takes better shots and is a very good shooter.....if we had better passing bigs out of the post or frontcourt that could make a "skip pass" (through a defender that is not closest to Mike), after a drive, Mike would find more open looks.

Baker and Doucoure are competitive kids and Sanders and Williams will help get them to play hard and compete immediately when they arrive...those are items that raise the floor of the program....I don't see how anyone being critical of Mike, is strictly based on shooting percentages....he does everything a team player needs and does it well. We are 3-4 games worse without Mike's competitiveness.....Rosario would be deemed a better shooter, but did nothing on either end of the court as well as Mike is doing for the team right now and Rosario was a potentially deadly shooter....I wouldn't trade Williams for a better shooter that doesn't rebound, defend, dive on the floor and battle on both ends....
 
Thanks Hawk, my point on Williams is clock is winding down under like 7 seconds and he has to force the shot. Happens a lot during year and I don;t want Eugene taking that shot.
 
A simple bounce pass was a dunk. He isn't looking. The penetrations to the hoop ALWAYS ends in a shot or charge AND the success rate just isn't high enough.
 
You should just stop posting about Sanders. "Better without him?" One of the dumbest things ever said here by a serious poster.

Plus Sanders draws lots of fouls.
Almost no one else on our team can do that.

Granted, we usually miss the FTs, but it is important to get into the bonus and double bonus, plus get some bigs into foul trouble.
 
Greene....normally I would agree with you on the team concept, but from ground level, it's impossible to see the players that we can see from the camera view or watching higher on TV.

I watched the Iowa game from very close in the 100's, where I rarely sit that close to the floor and I can recall my own playing days in HS....you need exceptional court vision to spot the players that we see on TV as "open" and RU has just 2 turnovers in the second half....one on the 5th foul by Sanders and the last one by Nigel under a minute left, when the game was kinda decided.

Sanders doesn't have the ability in the forest of trees of these players to find the open man the way it appears to be clearly available on TV...at court level, I have no idea how Nigel Johnson or Corey Sanders could get a clear look at the basket, over the size and long arms that Iowa presented.....Ohio State is athletic, with good size and quick hands....Sanders probably could've made those pressure passes, but they likely are turnovers or not converted or finished....some of those would have been turnovers and quick baskets. vs him trying a difficult shot, that could get rebounded by one of our guys for a 2nd or 3rd chance....on a couple of Sanders drives, he was bumped considerably and almost had two other difficult right hand layups just come off the rim.

On the topic of the thread, Mike Williams was 5-14, but created more offense by attacking the glass and had a key steal and layup and plays good defense almost every single possession. I am pretty confident that if Geo Baker and Mamadou Doucoure are here and thriving next year, they will be taking their cue on playing hard and competing from both Mike Williams and Corey Sanders..

I had one forced shot that Mike took a little quick or that wasn't up against the shot clock....shooting percentages are impacted because RU doesn't get a lot of shots up early in the shot clock and if charted, I'd imagine most of Williams shots are under 7 seconds on the shot clock....that's a lot of defensive pressure or places that are tough to make shots with.....he's 35% from 3, after spending almost all of last years B1G schedule before the Minnesota finale at below 25%....that's a big increase from 25% to 35% from 3 and Mike takes better shots and is a very good shooter.....if we had better passing bigs out of the post or frontcourt that could make a "skip pass" (through a defender that is not closest to Mike), after a drive, Mike would find more open looks.

Baker and Doucoure are competitive kids and Sanders and Williams will help get them to play hard and compete immediately when they arrive...those are items that raise the floor of the program....I don't see how anyone being critical of Mike, is strictly based on shooting percentages....he does everything a team player needs and does it well. We are 3-4 games worse without Mike's competitiveness.....Rosario would be deemed a better shooter, but did nothing on either end of the court as well as Mike is doing for the team right now and Rosario was a potentially deadly shooter....I wouldn't trade Williams for a better shooter that doesn't rebound, defend, dive on the floor and battle on both ends....

I like this post - both for its comments on Sanders and on Williams.

On Sanders: With all due respect to Greene FIGG, RU is NOT better without Sanders. It IS true that Sanders sometimes plays out of control, and does turn the ball over too much (though this game he was pretty good, in my opinion - no lazy passes this game). I thought his last play was a pretty good one by him - and that the ref really could have gone either way with the call. I actually felt Pikiell should have removed Sanders from the game after his 4th foul - there was just over 5 minutes left, and I felt a rest until the next TV time out (which would have come after the 4 minute mark) might have cleared Sanders' mind a little, after a tough 4th foul.

Sanders has really picked up his effort and performance the last 5-6 games - to his and to RU's benefit.

Williams is just a warrior - but will never be the star. And a heckuva warrior.
 
LOL at anyone criticizing Sanders after that game. I was at the game and I think the loudest the crowd got was when Corey fouled out. He is CLEARLY this team's best player and essentially it's only playmaker. He's not perfect, but it's tough to put up gaudy numbers with minimal post presence.
 
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Let me reword

If Sanders ever passed when driving hard to the basket it would open things up for him. The scouting report if he doesn't look to pass would go away.

He is insanely gifted. His effort on the defensive end,save the Iowa game, has been VERY good.

My criticism off Sanders role in the offensive should probably directed more at the coaching staff and not Corey.
 
We are now ranked 266th in offensive efficiency which is essentially where we have been the last few years. If you take out the offensive benefits of our offensive rebounds it is REALLY bad. Our success rate on 1st tries (before any offensive rebounds) has to be worse than last year. We don't have good offensive talent, but we cant be this bad?
 
G-Ru misses Bishop Daniels.

LOL! When you have posters saying we would a championship with five Mike Williams... And posters are criticizing Corey the actual and soul of this team... Yet 5 for 15, 5 for 14, 1 for 10, 3 for 12, 4 point plays on three point shots are ignored. Banging head against the wall. Not about likes and dislikes, hustle desire and rebounds are impressive.

Just a reality check... And Bishop Daniels hustled too and was crucified on this boardrd. :-)
 
Mike is the heartbeat of the team. There are definite flaws in his game. However when looking to build a program there is nothing better that should epitomize what we should be about than his play.

The warrior term is WAY overused here. Definitely appropriate with Mike.
 
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Let me reword

If Sanders ever passed when driving hard to the basket it would open things up for him. The scouting report if he doesn't look to pass would go away.

He is insanely gifted. His effort on the defensive end,save the Iowa game, has been VERY good.

My criticism off Sanders role in the offensive should probably directed more at the coaching staff and not Corey.

Thank you for rewording. What you said above is entirely different than saying we are better off without him on the court which is absolutely ridiculous.
 
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