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I just looked up pictures of the Newark stadium. 6 banks of lights, 4 along the foul lines and 2 behind the outfield fence in LF and RF. Scoreboard isn't state of the art but would be a definite upgrade.

Are they 17 year old, weathered and inefficient fixtures that have not been maintained or state of the art, low operating cost fixtures that come with a manufacturers warranty ?

You do understand that a cheap upfront cost is not always the most total cost effective solution right ? Also will RU be on the hook to disassemble the existing fixtures at Bears Stadium and transport them to Piscataway ? Have you factored in the cost of a crane with labor, Newark city permits, police costs and transport costs to relocate the lighting system to RU, along with storage costs before installing it at Bainton Field ?

If real life was only as simple as the the logic of some of our posters.
 
Are they 17 year old, weathered and inefficient fixtures that have not been maintained or state of the art, low operating cost fixtures that come with a manufacturers warranty ?

You do understand that a cheap upfront cost is not always the most total cost effective solution right ? Also will RU be on the hook to disassemble the existing fixtures at Bears Stadium and transport them to Piscataway ? Have you factored in the cost of a crane with labor, Newark city permits, police costs and transport costs to relocate the lighting system to RU, along with storage costs before installing it at Bainton Field ?

If real life was only as simple as the the logic of some of our posters.

The fact that you're - from what I can tell - the ONLY poster in this thread who doesn't like this idea should tell you a lot. SMH.
 
The fact that you're - from what I can tell - the ONLY poster in this thread who doesn't like this idea should tell you a lot. SMH.

More information is needed before it can be established that it is a good deal. I'm pretty sure that Pat Hobbs operates at a more sophisticated analytical level than someone like you as a businessman. That's why he is the RU AD and you're a high volume poster on a message board. As a long time RU fan and graduate I'm more comfortable with him making a value judgment in this situation than someone like you. If Hobbs buys remnants from Newark Bears stadium for use at Bainton Field then I will be all for it. But it certainly is no slam dunk for RU until all of the facts are known.
 
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Bears were a ton of fun to watch

We used to go all of the time - players were always great to my kids

It was rare than there were more than a few hundred people in attendance when we were there.. Had no idea how they lasted as long as they did
I used to go to Atlantic City Surf games who were in the same league as the bears, riversharks, and patriots. Also fun and a brand new stadium at the time which is used by atlantic city high school now.
 
So how many minor league stadiums in NJ are no longer in use? Newark, Camden, Sussex? Atlantic city? Were these all built with public funds?
 
Are they 17 year old, weathered and inefficient fixtures that have not been maintained or state of the art, low operating cost fixtures that come with a manufacturers warranty ?

You do understand that a cheap upfront cost is not always the most total cost effective solution right ? Also will RU be on the hook to disassemble the existing fixtures at Bears Stadium and transport them to Piscataway ? Have you factored in the cost of a crane with labor, Newark city permits, police costs and transport costs to relocate the lighting system to RU, along with storage costs before installing it at Bainton Field ?

If real life was only as simple as the the logic of some of our posters.
Sounds like a good deal but some valid points here.
 
So how many minor league stadiums in NJ are no longer in use? Newark, Camden, Sussex? Atlantic city? Were these all built with public funds?

The use of public funds for any stadium is a recipe for disaster - the "economic benefits" are marketing speak with no basis in reality https://news.stanford.edu/2015/07/30/stadium-economics-noll-073015/

For example, he pointed out, the cities of Oakland and St. Louis are still making substantial annual payments on the debts that remain for now-obsolete stadiums that were built to lure the Oakland Raiders and St. Louis Rams away from Los Angeles in the 1990s.
 
So how many minor league stadiums in NJ are no longer in use? Newark, Camden, Sussex? Atlantic city? Were these all built with public funds?

None of these stadiums were affiliated with major league teams which is why they went broke. An independent baseball league is a tough money maker. I'm surprised Somerset does so well with no affiliation.
 
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None of these stadiums were affiliated with major league teams which is why they went broke. An independent baseball league is a tough money maker. I'm surprised Somerset does so well with no affiliation.

Location.
 
None of these stadiums were affiliated with major league teams which is why they went broke. An independent baseball league is a tough money maker. I'm surprised Somerset does so well with no affiliation.
My guess is that part of it is the fact that Somerset is some distance from any other minor league stadiums, as opposed to Newark and Montclair which are only 12 miles away from each other.
 
The use of public funds for any stadium is a recipe for disaster - the "economic benefits" are marketing speak with no basis in reality https://news.stanford.edu/2015/07/30/stadium-economics-noll-073015/

For example, he pointed out, the cities of Oakland and St. Louis are still making substantial annual payments on the debts that remain for now-obsolete stadiums that were built to lure the Oakland Raiders and St. Louis Rams away from Los Angeles in the 1990s.
Yet the development of Camden Yards spurred a massive amount of development in the area, and still fills hotels and restaurants 80 nights a year, and the state funded development of the original Giants Stadium led to massive amounts of development on the Rt 3 corridor from North Bergen to Clifton. Secaucus might still be a Pig Farm if not for that development.
 
None of these stadiums were affiliated with major league teams which is why they went broke. An independent baseball league is a tough money maker. I'm surprised Somerset does so well with no affiliation.
Sussex was affiliated with the St Louis Cardinals originally.
 
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