Nadal!
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Way too many FO titles and clay is essentially an irrelevant surface. He is the greatest on clay, but probably not even in the top 10 on the more important surfaces.
GOAT Rankings (modern era):
1. Federer
2. Borg (retired at 26, overall talent was unmatched until Federer)
3. Djokovic (chance at overtaking Federer)
4. Sampras (no career slam, but dominated tennis for a decade)
5. Nadal
Wimbledon (and grass) is by far the most important and historic tourney in tennis. Just like the Masters for golf.
I’m bummed. Respect the hell out of Nadal, but just do not like the guy. Was rooting hard for Medvedev to complete the comeback. Great match.
I am a Federer fan and always want him to beat Nadal, but I respect and like Nadal too...seems like a decent guy and he's a great competitor. Happy he beat the Russian. And I am Russian...I don't want to see them win anything right now
It may be the most prestigious according to many, but there's also like 5? 6? Grass tourneys during the year including Wimbledon. All the rest are hard court and to a lesser extent clay. All grand slams carry the same amount of points and are equal in terms of rankings.
I would say if you're French or Spanish you'd say the French is the most prestigious.
The most played surface on earth is clay.
How manny grass courts do you see in metro area.? There are plenty of clay courts around though.
The French open is the toughest to win. You actually have to construct your points to win. It’s also the preferred surface for learning all the strokes.
but go ahead and make idiotic comments.
If I ever need an advocate I'm hiring T2K. He is relentless.
With French Open 2020 (20 what!) right around the corner right now one has to assume Fed will likely finish at best tied with Nadal in all-time majors. Which somehow feels right. And somehow Djokovic will ultimately end up at 20 himself.
I'm at the point now where I say they're all awesome and go on my way.
Nadal with 3 more slams and 1 more US Open easily puts him ahead of Djokovic as we speak. With that said, I give the Djoker the edge to take the all time GS crown. Think Fed wins 1 more Wimbledon, and Rafa at least another couple slams with his FO dominance.
This era is unreal. Top three players will have 55-60 GS Titles...
That's unbelievable
That's unbelievable
It really is. Can you imagine if the other 2 weren’t there right now? The other guy would have more gold than Midas.
Feels like we are. Wimbledon ‘19 was vintage Fed to me - Djokovic just beat him.
I'll pass along the message. :Unhappy:
While Federer is the current undisputed GOAT, I suspect either Nadal or Djokovic will ultimately overtake the mantle, which boggles my mind. They're both on track to win more majors and both have a winning head-to-head record against Federer; though neither may win as many matches and total titles as Fed. Discounting Nadal's achievement on clay is stupid. Tennis is an international sport and to be the best, you have to excel on ALL surfaces. You can't just ground and pound on clay. Mental fortitude is key.
Djok is 5 years younger, which is ages for tennis. Federer's play at Wimbledon just shows how remarkable the old man is.
I’m afraid Fed is done as a threat in majors. Got smacked around in Cincinnati this summer and at US Open. That Wimbledon final loss may have been the beginning of the end.
We shall see, but that would be fine with me - been anti-Fed since he beat Agassi in the Open final.
Can't tell if you are serious.
Rafa and Roger played many many times both in their prime.
Are you really that dumb to ask the question.
Nadal played Federer when Fed was in his prime. Look it up!
He is so obviously anti Nadal it's hilarious. He's trying to diminish Nadal's accomplishments by saying clay is irrelevant and Federer is supposedly not in his prime while they've competed against each other.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federer–Nadal_rivalry
Out of respect, I was going to grant Fed the GOAT mantle a bit longer, but since Fed has been past his prime the past few years, we can deduct those recent 7 of 8 whoops, and easily hand the GOAT title to Nadal now. :)
Out of respect, I was going to grant Fed the GOAT mantle a bit longer, but since Fed has been past his prime the past few years, we can deduct those recent 7 of 8 whoops, and easily hand the GOAT title to Nadal now. :)
Fed has won the past 5 out of 6 and now has the lead on hard courts and grass. Nadal is the best ever on clay, but who cares about that?
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