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NIL, what's the best course of action to remedy this?

You haven’t spent much time in the south have you?

College football is a religion to these people.

And this is why things will never change.

Create a union, collectively bargain, set a salary cap with each team paying players directly.
Get rid of NIL (like it used to be).

Does anyone really think "boosters" are just going away and not give money to players under the table?
Like exactly what was happening pre-NIL?
The problem is boosters above all else.
 
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And this is why things will never change.

Create a union, collectively bargain, set a salary cap with each team paying players directly.
Get rid of NIL (like it used to be).

Does anyone really think "boosters" are just going away and not give money to players under the table?
Like exactly what was happening pre-NIL?
The problem is boosters above all else.
That will also never change. And I can PROMISE you the NCAA will not give a hoot about smaller schools complaining that the larger ones who make them more money have an unfair advantage.

Adapt or die, or stop whining when we have a 7-8 win cap as a program
 
Cost of maintaining the financial balance of running a university with the exponential costs of maintaining sports programs under the new normal will collide.

Let me paint a picture of what I perceive will happen.

The numbers of college age students graduating and eligible to attend college will be "falling off a cliff" beginning this year. The numbers will continue to fall every year and continue through 2037.

In addition to the significant decrease in student numbers is the fact that more students are "now" deciding not to go to college.

The number of HS seniors deciding to attend college is only 62%.

This will dramatically impact the financial stability of many institutions now and in the future. Many colleges will be forced to adapt or close as their tuition paying student body shrinks or they will have to go to their state legislatures for more funding.

Politicians will then be involved as the general public won't want to see their taxes go up to support schools that they or their children don't attend. Perception and reality.

I will use Penn State (B1G Blue Blood) as an example going forward.

Penn State currently receives $242 million per year from the state (Pennsylvania is not the most generous state in funding college education) and is struggling in maintaining "student body" at its 20 Branch campuses. In fact many of its branch campuses are seeing significant decreases in student body. Penn State has a group evaluating this problem and what needs to be done going forward.

Asking the state for more taxpayer funding is an option but Pitt, Temple and the other state schools will also be asking for additional funding to support decreasing student body.

Now lets look at the optics that the politicians will face as they decide to increase state support and the Pa newspapers and news organizations get involved (LOL).

Penn State will be spending $700 million on upgrading Beaver Stadium (Penn State will cover this cost), the stadium will only be used 7 times per year for maybe 28 hours. Penn State will raise millions for NIL so they will remain a B1G Blue Blood.

Penn State can do all these things but cannot maintain their academic branch campuses without additional state funding.

Pitt and Temple face many of the same problems that Penn State faces. Fortunately Pitt only has 3 branch campuses and Pitt's Oakland campus is seeing increases in student body.

Over the next 10 years we will be seeing many private universities closing and many state schools struggling to maintain fiscal balance.

Coaching salaries, Taj Mahal facilities, NIL funding no problem in the new era of student body declines.

Relax, sit back and see where this all goes.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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Perhaps you can’t read - the kid is a sophomore and lives on UCF campus in the college dorm and doesn’t have a single in-person class. If the kid was living at home or somewhere other than the actual college campus the whole distance learning wouldn’t be a surprise.
Believe it or not, there may be non-athletes doing the same thing. A substantial number of classes are offered in a way that lets kids sit in the dorm rather than go to a physical class.
 
And this is why things will never change.

Create a union, collectively bargain, set a salary cap with each team paying players directly.
Get rid of NIL (like it used to be).

Does anyone really think "boosters" are just going away and not give money to players under the table?
Like exactly what was happening pre-NIL?
The problem is boosters above all else.
The settlement does "set a salary cap with each team paying players directly." NIL will remain, but will be what it was supposed to be: a way for players to negotiate with businesses that want to use their notice, image and likeness to sell products rather than have that money go to everyone but the players.
 
The settlement does "set a salary cap with each team paying players directly." NIL will remain, but will be what it was supposed to be: a way for players to negotiate with businesses that want to use their notice, image and likeness to sell products rather than have that money go to everyone but the players.

That's exactly the same situation as currently setup.
Salary cap just goes from $0 to $50m.

Boosters will still give extra money above and beyond to entice the best players.
The overall situation doesn't actually change.

Does Portnoy not offer $5m for a QB just because Michigan is "officially" paying some money?

Unless the "boosters" are taken out of the college athletics culture - nothing changes.
 
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Believe it or not, there may be non-athletes doing the same thing. A substantial number of classes are offered in a way that lets kids sit in the dorm rather than go to a physical class.
I’m sure there are non-athletes too, but I doubt they are taking every single class online from their dorm room. Strikes me as an athlete thing. My buddy wasn’t thrilled about it (and didn’t know until the semester started) but said now there is even more time for training and team stuff. Hope it’s all worth it for some of these kids.
 
I’m sure there are non-athletes too, but I doubt they are taking every single class online from their dorm room. Strikes me as an athlete thing. My buddy wasn’t thrilled about it (and didn’t know until the semester started) but said now there is even more time for training and team stuff. Hope it’s all worth it for some of these kids.
It's hard to know. UCF is *huge,* (59,000 undergraduates as compared to 36,000 at Rutgers-New Brunswick) and on-line classes help the school offer more courses than its buildings would accommodate. So I wouldn't assume that this is just an athlete thing. Probably athletes are encouraged to do this kind of thing precisely so that there is more time for team-related activities, but I would be very surprised if they are the only ones doing it. Speaking as a retired professor, I think online classes are not a good idea because they limit interaction between the teacher and the student -- but this kind of thing has really taken hold over the last few years.

Edit: I'm not sure what any of this has to do with compensation. It was going on before compensation and I don't see how compensation will change it.
 
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This is what I was referring to above with regards to outside the school NIL and fair market value enforcement. What will be this designated enforcement agency.

 
This is what I was referring to above with regards to outside the school NIL and fair market value enforcement. What will be this designated enforcement agency.

My eyes are old, but I don't see any reference in what you quoted to a "designated enforcement agency." What I do see is a reference to a "neutral arbitration system." There's no mystery to finding arbitrators: see the link. https://www.adr.org/aaa-panel
 
My eyes are old, but I don't see any reference in what you quoted to a "designated enforcement agency." What I do see is a reference to a "neutral arbitration system." There's no mystery to finding arbitrators: see the link. https://www.adr.org/aaa-panel
You have to click the link to get the full screenshot but it’s still small print.

The system as is has already brought more parity than CFB has ever seen, which imo has been a good thing for the sport. If there’s actual enforcement of outside of the school based NIL and fair maket rates (I’m still skeptical) then the nudge towards more party might be even bigger than I was expecting with schools paying players.

People complain but being in the P2 will be an advantage in finding the budget for players.

Here’s the article that goes with it.

This is what I was questioning above with regards to enforcement of outside NIL.

Excepts from the article:

In a world where more parity is expected, where does that leave the big boys?

As it turns out, keeping their advantage is quite simple, experts contend. They use their big brand, sprawling metro areas, massive alumni bases, wealthy donors and rich relationships to exceed college football’s new cap.

“That’s going to be the new frontier: the above-the-cap, supplemental NIL,” says Walker Jones, the head of the Ole Miss collective and a leading member of The Collective Association. “That’s the new battlefield. The question is, can it really be regulated?”

The answer, though not easy, is that athletes land true endorsement and commercial deals from outside the school with third-party brands and companies. Third-party deals do not count against a school’s salary cap. However, in an effort to limit booster involvement, the settlement orders all third-party deals of $600 or more from school-affiliated boosters, or collections of them, to gain approval from a new NIL clearinghouse.

The clearinghouse, operated by Deloitte, is charged with verifying the authenticity of these deals using “fair market value” rates, poised to eliminate phony booster-backed compensation agreements so prevalent in the industry over the previous three years.

While many question the legality of this, power league executives, holding authority over many settlement-related decisions (not the NCAA), contend that the settlement grants them protections to enforce long-standing NCAA rules against booster payments. In fact, they are creating a separate enforcement entity — not the NCAA — to police the cap and levy penalties on those attempting to manipulate it, such as player ineligibility and school fines.

The power conferences have created a “transition team” of athletic directors from the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 and ACC to explore issues and create a framework related to the cap, clearinghouse and new enforcement arm. Members of the seven-person Deloitte clearinghouse team have met with college administrators over the last several weeks in an effort to educate them on the process — one that remains murky.

At Ohio State, Carter supports “strong penalties” for those violators, but so many questions remain unanswered, he and Bjork say.

“How are rules written? What is the fair market value analysis? What is the database going to look like?” Bjork says. “What does fair market value mean in Columbus, Ohio, compared to, maybe, a small college town? There has to be some kind of differential there.

“We want to be aggressive, use our corporate partners and donors who own companies. They have marketing funds. How do we turn that into agreements with athletes? We think we have the city, alumni base and the population and the sponsors in our existing environment to be aggressive.”


 
Perhaps you can’t read - the kid is a sophomore and lives on UCF campus in the college dorm and doesn’t have a single in-person class. If the kid was living at home or somewhere other than the actual college campus the whole distance learning wouldn’t be a surprise.
Perhaps you can't read. Online learning has been occurring since at least the mid 2000's when I was a student. I played Lacrosse for Rutgers mate, Half my classes during the season were online. I had an apartment with teammates at Easton Ave. My Junior year Spring semester I had ONE in person class, the rest online, this was in 2010, and you'll see my name listed on the team roster.

You're living 20 years in the past old man
 
Perhaps you can't read. Online learning has been occurring since at least the mid 2000's when I was a student. I played Lacrosse for Rutgers mate, Half my classes during the season were online. I had an apartment with teammates at Easton Ave. My Junior year Spring semester I had ONE in person class, the rest online, this was in 2010, and you'll see my name listed on the team roster.

You're living 20 years in the past old man
OK mate - I guess I’m living in the past to expect a college student living on a college campus to actually have to leave his/her college dorm once to attend an in-person class with live teachers and classmates. Living in a dorm attending 100% online classes is absolutely ridiculous.
 
OK mate - I guess I’m living in the past to expect a college student living on a college campus to actually have to leave his/her college dorm once to attend an in-person class with live teachers and classmates. Living in a dorm attending 100% online classes is absolutely ridiculous.
Yep you're 20 years in the past. You can call it ridiculous all you want but it's the world we live in and it's only going further to more and more remote school/work.

The question you really should be asking your friend is "Why are you paying for your son to live on campus if he is going to school remote? Why isn't he living at home saving money the way 99% of other students who attend college fully remote do?"

I would agree that unless a student is an Athlete or in research where they actually have a reason to live on or near campus that it's silly to pay for student housing. But that doesn't mean people can't earn degree's fully online. Hell that's half of college these days

From what I gathered, your friend is pretty dumb
 
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OK mate - I guess I’m living in the past to expect a college student living on a college campus to actually have to leave his/her college dorm once to attend an in-person class with live teachers and classmates. Living in a dorm attending 100% online classes is absolutely ridiculous.
I think maybe you are.

I'm older than yessir and never had this available in any meaningful way (I did have an HS class shared with another nearby HS, but the teacher was on my end).

Still, I really don't really see the distinction you're making. If online classes are available to the student body at large, why would it matter if the student lives on campus or not? That's his or her business, but the school need not alter requirements because of it.
 
Yep you're 20 years in the past. You can call it ridiculous all you want but it's the world we live in and it's only going further to more and more remote school/work.

The question you really should be asking your friend is "Why are you paying for him to live on campus if he is going to school remote? Why isn't he living at home saving money the way 99% of other students who attend college fully remote?"

I tend to agree with you that unless a student is an Athlete or in research where they actually have a reason to live on or near campus that it's silly to pay for student housing. But that doesn't mean people can't earn degree's fully online. Hell that's half of college these days

From what I gathered, your friend is pretty dumb
His kid is an athlete so he doesn’t mind the online situation.
 
I think maybe you are.

I'm older than yessir and never had this available in any meaningful way (I did have an HS class shared with another nearby HS, but the teacher was on my end).

Still, I really don't really see the distinction you're making. If online classes are available to the student body at large, why would it matter if the student lives on campus or not? That's his or her business, but the school need not alter requirements because of it.

Yeah - this. Pretty much every school offers some online classes now. Theoretically it would be possible to intentionally sign up for a collection of those classes in a particular semester to avoid in person depending on your major. I agree with Yessir. Cannot think of any reason why someone would pay to live on campus if they matriculated specifically in an all online program.
 
OK mate - I guess I’m living in the past to expect a college student living on a college campus to actually have to leave his/her college dorm once to attend an in-person class with live teachers and classmates. Living in a dorm attending 100% online classes is absolutely ridiculous.
Is true that we've had entire universities that do nothing but remote learning for decades.

The value of learning in person versus remotely varies from person to person. There's no one-size fits all here.

OTOH, the social and maturity-building value of attending a school, living in a dorm and being away from one's parents is pretty universal.

So we'll have to agree to disagree about online classes while living in a dorm being ridiculous.
 
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His kid is an athlete so he doesn’t mind the online situation.
Ok so THAT'S the reason! Particularly for athletes with their travel schedules it can be nearly impossible to stay on schedule with your learning unless you have the information available online. TRUST ME, I know this first hand as a former lacrosse player from 2007-2011 for Rutgers!

During the season fortunately back then our conference was relatively local (lacrosse has different conferences than football/basketball etc), however we still would travel to the Carolina's, the Northeast (Vermont, Maine, Mass and New Hampshire) and a bit into the midwest. Lacrosse we often had mid week games and always traveled on Friday for Saturday away games. This on top of the 20 hours of required practice time and 10 hours of required study hours/tutor time required in season. Simply put, it was nearly impossible to attend in person class during the season on a regular basis. MANY classes tie attendence to your grade, online learning became ESSENTIAL to us athletes.

Again, this was 15 years ago... You're speaking about college like it's the 90's
 
Yeah - this. Pretty much every school offers some online classes now. Theoretically it would be possible to intentionally sign up for a collection of those classes in a particular semester to avoid in person depending on your major. I agree with Yessir. Cannot think of any reason why someone would pay to live on campus if they matriculated specifically in an all online program.
I would've happily done that if I could've (I hate classroom learning) but it wasn't an option for me. And I've happily paid for my kids to live on campus which all of them have done a bunch of online learning (although not all).

The value of living on campus versus home is hard to overstate for most kids. It's not within reach for some people, financially, which is too bad because I think it's worth every penny, IMO.
 
Yeah, for athletes it makes complete sense.

And even for regular students I can see the independent value in living on campus (assuming it's not a huge financial imposition). @mildone summed up those advantages nicely.

It's really just a digital age update of the many RU students that grew up within easy commuting distance of RU but still lived on campus instead of driving back and forth. Some folks don't see the value in that, either, but I believe there's plenty.
 
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I would've happily done that if I could've (I hate classroom learning) but it wasn't an option for me. And I've happily paid for my kids to live on campus which all of them have done a bunch of online learning (although not all).

The value of living on campus versus home is hard to overstate for most kids. It's not within reach for some people, financially, which is too bad because I think it's worth every penny, IMO.
I agree with this and I've had similar conversations with my wife regarding our kids growing up (7 and 2). We've come to the conclusion that we also want them to live on or near campus if college is their choice even with online school becoming so prevalent. Where we draw the line is paying for them to go to an out of state school without scholarships. Particularly for undergrad. There's no reason a kid NEEDS to go to Miami or Southern California for undergrad, but if you got the grades and the scholarships, who am I to say no?
 
I agree with this and I've had similar conversations with my wife regarding our kids growing up (7 and 2). We've come to the conclusion that we also want them to live on or near campus if college is their choice even with online school becoming so prevalent. Where we draw the line is paying for them to go to an out of state school without scholarships. Particularly for undergrad. There's no reason a kid NEEDS to go to Miami or Southern California for undergrad, but if you got the grades and the scholarships, who am I to say no?
I can understand the out-of-state expenses thing. No kid needs to go out of state.

But I also think there's value in being a good distance from home for college. It takes the value of living in a dorm and increases it, further helping to develop maturity, independence, etc. Not required, obviously. Just helpful sometimes.

This is especially true for kids whose home life might've been less than ideal (which sometimes is hard to know even for attentive parents). Some obvious examples include kids of divorce, or with helicopter parents, or with a control freak parent, etc. They will often do far better being hundreds of miles or more away from home.

OTOH, sometimes kids go away and struggle and need to come back closer to home to excel. There's no one-size fits all.
 
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I can understand the out-of-state expenses thing. No kid needs to go out of state.

But I also think there's value in being a good distance from home for college. It takes the value of living in a dorm and increases it, further helping to develop maturity, independence, etc. Not required, obviously. Just helpful sometimes.

This is especially true for kids whose home life might've been less than ideal (which sometimes is hard to know even for attentive parents). Some obvious examples include kids of divorce, or with helicopter parents, or with a control freak parent, etc. They will often do far better being hundreds of miles or more away from home.

OTOH, sometimes kids go away and struggle and need to come back closer to home to excel. There's no one-size fits all.
Agree with all of that. We live in Silver Spring Maryland about 15 min from College Park (U of Maryland), I'd have a hard time paying for housing if they go there when they've got a bed 15 min away but I understand it. I'd also probably be open to an out of state school witha good program as long as it wasn't something insane. Like if they fall in love with a school in North Carolina of Pennsylvania or something I'd be open to it (depending on the school, particularly there's one in PA that has a HARD NO, haha)

Unfortunately the kids you described that have a less than ideal home life all but assuredly don't have the support to attend college out of state but I definitely understand. Heck my wife was that way, we were both athletes at Rutgers (She's from New Orleans originally) and without sports there is no way possible she would have had the opportunites she had and made it to Rutgers, let alone leave Louisiana.


Glad to see most people get it, I can't help it if a codgy old guard like Aldo doesn't want to adapt with the times but glad to hear there are other likeminded parents who want the best for the kids and don't just look for reasons to bitch about them
 
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I can understand the out-of-state expenses thing. No kid needs to go out of state.

But I also think there's value in being a good distance from home for college. It takes the value of living in a dorm and increases it, further helping to develop maturity, independence, etc. Not required, obviously. Just helpful sometimes.

This is especially true for kids whose home life might've been less than ideal (which sometimes is hard to know even for attentive parents). Some obvious examples include kids of divorce, or with helicopter parents, or with a control freak parent, etc. They will often do far better being hundreds of miles or more away from home.

OTOH, sometimes kids go away and struggle and need to come back closer to home to excel. There's no one-size fits all.
True on the no one size fits all.

One of the best things we bought for our kids when they went away was a doorstop. Keep it open, meet people.
 
True on the no one size fits all.

One of the best things we bought for our kids when they went away was a doorstop. Keep it open, meet people.
That is great advice. Meet everyone you can. You won't want to make friends with all of them, but at least you'll have had the opportunity to decide if you want to make them a friend. Go to parties and events. Do extracurricular activities that interest you. When you walk around campus, do your best to keep a smile on your face -- you never know who it might attract. But make sure to study!
 
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True on the no one size fits all.

One of the best things we bought for our kids when they went away was a doorstop. Keep it open, meet people.

That is great advice. Meet everyone you can. You won't want to make friends with all of them, but at least you'll have had the opportunity to decide if you want to make them a friend. Go to parties and events. Do extracurricular activities that interest you. When you walk around campus, do your best to keep a smile on your face -- you never know who it might attract. But make sure to study!

Agreed. Meeting new people, making friends, and networking are all very valuable things being away at school typically makes easier than when home. IMO, those things contribute to making the dorm or off-campus rental existence worth it even if attending classes online.
 
LOL!!!!

How many patients will want to go to a doctor who received all/most of their Medical Training On Line.

Ok. Next patient for a brain operation please sign in.


HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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LOL!!!!

How many patients will want to go to a doctor who received all/most of their Medical Training On Line.

Ok. Next patient for a brain operation please sign in.


HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Lots of college football players seeking to become doctors?
 
Cost of maintaining the financial balance of running a university with the exponential costs of maintaining sports programs under the new normal will collide.

Let me paint a picture of what I perceive will happen.

The numbers of college age students graduating and eligible to attend college will be "falling off a cliff" beginning this year. The numbers will continue to fall every year and continue through 2037.

In addition to the significant decrease in student numbers is the fact that more students are "now" deciding not to go to college.

The number of HS seniors deciding to attend college is only 62%.

This will dramatically impact the financial stability of many institutions now and in the future. Many colleges will be forced to adapt or close as their tuition paying student body shrinks or they will have to go to their state legislatures for more funding.

Politicians will then be involved as the general public won't want to see their taxes go up to support schools that they or their children don't attend. Perception and reality.

I will use Penn State (B1G Blue Blood) as an example going forward.

Penn State currently receives $242 million per year from the state (Pennsylvania is not the most generous state in funding college education) and is struggling in maintaining "student body" at its 20 Branch campuses. In fact many of its branch campuses are seeing significant decreases in student body. Penn State has a group evaluating this problem and what needs to be done going forward.

Asking the state for more taxpayer funding is an option but Pitt, Temple and the other state schools will also be asking for additional funding to support decreasing student body.

Now lets look at the optics that the politicians will face as they decide to increase state support and the Pa newspapers and news organizations get involved (LOL).

Penn State will be spending $700 million on upgrading Beaver Stadium (Penn State will cover this cost), the stadium will only be used 7 times per year for maybe 28 hours. Penn State will raise millions for NIL so they will remain a B1G Blue Blood.

Penn State can do all these things but cannot maintain their academic branch campuses without additional state funding.

Pitt and Temple face many of the same problems that Penn State faces. Fortunately Pitt only has 3 branch campuses and Pitt's Oakland campus is seeing increases in student body.

Over the next 10 years we will be seeing many private universities closing and many state schools struggling to maintain fiscal balance.

Coaching salaries, Taj Mahal facilities, NIL funding no problem in the new era of student body declines.

Relax, sit back and see where this all goes.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Rutgers made a 2025 sports budget. The document was posted here. It was deleted. When I asked why, I was told it was negative.
 
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Two words: gender equality. We don't know exactly what that's going to mean for the $22 million, but it's going to be a factor.
Will we have a clear description of gender? Afterall, if monies have to be distributed equally, I would think that has to have a clear line no? You already have schools forfeiting matches so with this much money around, I would hope this issue is resolved once and for all.
 
It's hard to know. UCF is *huge,* (59,000 undergraduates as compared to 36,000 at Rutgers-New Brunswick) and on-line classes help the school offer more courses than its buildings would accommodate. So I wouldn't assume that this is just an athlete thing. Probably athletes are encouraged to do this kind of thing precisely so that there is more time for team-related activities, but I would be very surprised if they are the only ones doing it. Speaking as a retired professor, I think online classes are not a good idea because they limit interaction between the teacher and the student -- but this kind of thing has really taken hold over the last few years.

Edit: I'm not sure what any of this has to do with compensation. It was going on before compensation and I don't see how compensation will change it.
There's also the added pressure of keeping these athletes' mental health in shape. I trained with athletes from all kinds of sports at Rutgers, I can distinctly remember Chas Dodd almost nervous to walk around campus in 2010 during a 6 game losing streak. The kid was a freshman and heard it MERCILESSLY. You gotta figure, we were just a few years removed from the absolute height of the program and went 4-8 that year, students were PISSED! It wasn't pleasant for Dodd to walk around campus that year, I know this for a fact.

Online classes are just one other way to avoid this, like it or not some of our athletes are extremely high profile on campus and absolutely get bombarded with people giving their opinions on their most recent performance. Hell I used to hear it from people about Lacrosse when the reality is basically anyone who showed up to our games were either family/friends or a local youth team.
 
That's exactly the same situation as currently setup.
Salary cap just goes from $0 to $50m.

Boosters will still give extra money above and beyond to entice the best players.
The overall situation doesn't actually change.

Does Portnoy not offer $5m for a QB just because Michigan is "officially" paying some money?

Unless the "boosters" are taken out of the college athletics culture - nothing changes.
Good luck with that. Getting boosters out of college athletics is like trying to eat soup with a fork.
 
Good luck with that. Getting boosters out of college athletics is like trying to eat soup with a fork.

Agree.
And nothing will ever change.
There will never be a level playing field.
All the complaints and “solutions “ about NIL are worthless.
It’s just a waste of time and resources for any agency to attempt to implement changes.

They are all going to fail.
 
And the schools only have themselves to blame.

They wanted a model of “we don’t have enough money? Force fans and alumni to give us extra money for anything we want. We don’t want to have to be financially responsible. We just want to keep spending.”

Well there’s a saying about reaping and sowing.
 
And the schools only have themselves to blame.

They wanted a model of “we don’t have enough money? Force fans and alumni to give us extra money for anything we want. We don’t want to have to be financially responsible. We just want to keep spending.”

Well there’s a saying about reaping and sowing.
Agree with your fiscal responsibility point but as is the system is still better than what we had. It's not perfect and can be chaotic but opportunity is greater than ever for most. I don't know why it's seen as a bad thing when we're seeing teams do things they haven't in a generation or ever before.

If there's actual enforcement (skeptical about that) of "outside the school" NIL then it might even get a little better.

 
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