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No. 6 Rutgers Women's Soccer vs. La Salle

Looks like a pretty good test tonight; They have a bunch of girls from south Jersey including a couple from Riley's high school so she will probably be familiar with them
 
Looks like a pretty good test tonight; They have a bunch of girls from south Jersey including a couple from Riley's high school so she will probably be familiar with them
LaSalle isn't even "receiving votes." This should be an EASY "W" this evening.
 
Absolutely. They're 5-1. Perennial Tourney team from the A10.
I think the problem for Lasalle is with their schedule they will not be , at all, prepared for the speed the game will be played at tonight
 
I think the problem for Lasalle is with their schedule they will not be , at all, prepared for the speed the game will be played at tonight
Believe & hope that you are correct. We've handled them in the first round the last few years.
 
NJ soccer is no joke my friends, a lot of talent throughout the state that , you can’t keep them all.
 
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Ladies played a very solid game. Ref was atrocious, hurt the game, made it choppy. Hate to say it but believe the LaSalle penalty kick goal resulted from Kassidy Banks getting beat & one of our girls had to foul in the box.
LSU on Sunday. You GO Ladies! GO RU!
 
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Ladies played a very solid game. Ref was atrocious, hurt the game, made it choppy. Hate to say it but believe the LaSalle penalty kick goal resulted from Kassidy Banks getting beat & one of our girls had to foul in the box.
LSU on Sunday. You GO Ladies! GO RU!
What is your issue with Kassidy. She played a great game.

IMO yes maybe she got beat (need to watch again) but the Lasalle player had just entered the right corner of the box and the defender did not need to take her down immediately. There was not much danger where the Lasalle player was and she could have been defended.

Did any other players get beat by a player or miss a tackle? It happens.

Glad we won and I will support the women in a positive manner.
 
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What is your issue with Kassidy. She played a great game.

IMO yes maybe she got beat (need to watch again) but the Lasalle player had just entered the right corner of the box and the defender did not need to take her down immediately. There was not much danger where the Lasalle player was and she could have been defended.

Did any other players get beat by a player or miss a tackle? It happens.

Glad we won and I will support the women in a positive manner.
My issue is she keeps getting beaten. You can't have that in tight games against better competition. And you can't blame another girl for Kassidy's error. Hope I'm wrong that she was beaten, but don't think so. Glad you support the women in a positive manner. Happy to have company in that regard.
 
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A Few thoughts on last night's game for what they're worth:
The Team played a very solid game.
Allie Lynch was great. Her sliding tackles were terrific. She is playing the best, most consistent, all around soccer I have seen her play in 4 years;
Sara Brocius had another great game. All over the field with strong smart play. Her through balls have been terrific, leading to goals;
Gianna Romano started at OB & had an excellent game. Strong on the ball, moved it well, very good decisions;
Arriana Kuryla subbed in for Romano at times & was very solid;
Riley Tiernan continues her hard, skilled, aggressive play all over the field. Believe she is really hungry for a goal. She is consistently dribbling to the center looking for a shot. As a result she has not been taking the ball to the base line where she is lethal. Her angle for a shot is diminished from there but her crosses result in so many goals, & she draws corners. Think it would help her & the team to mix it up;
There are other girls that deserve mention I am sure, but this is what immediately came to mind. GO RU! BEAT LSU!

Few additional thoughts:
Allie Lowrey once again is a finisher;
Kaylie Daigle had an excellent game even as she continues to deal with an ankle issue. She has grown so much since last year & if she continues to find the back of the net we will be that much tougher to handle;
Would like to see Sam Kroeger & Kaylie Daigle relieve Becci Fluchel from set piece duty. While Becci is playing great under the radar soccer her serves on set pieces tend to be pretty regularly not so good.
 
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A Few thoughts on last night's game for what they're worth:
The Team played a very solid game.
Allie Lynch was great. Her sliding tackles were terrific. She is playing the best, most consistent, all around soccer I have seen her play in 4 years;
Sara Brocius had another great game. All over the field with strong smart play. Her through balls have been terrific, leading to goals;
Gianna Romano started at OB & had an excellent game. Strong on the ball, moved it well, very good decisions;
Arriana Kuryla subbed in for Romano at times & was very solid;
Riley Tiernan continues her hard, skilled, aggressive play all over the field. Believe she is really hungry for a goal. She is consistently dribbling to the center looking for a shot. As a result she has not been taking the ball to the base line where she is lethal. Her angle for a shot is diminished from there but her crosses result in so many goals, & she draws corners. Think it would help her & the team to mix it up;
There are other girls that deserve mention I am sure, but this is what immediately came to mind. GO RU! BEAT LSU!
Agreed there was one play where Glenn Crooks pointed out if she just stayed wide she would Chavez gotten off a good shot and have a good chance for a goal.
I actually think last night(now I only saw the second half) but I think she went the other way and was trying to pass too much now of course her pass led indirectly to the third goal
 
My issue is she keeps getting beaten. You can't have that in tight games against better competition. And you can't blame another girl for Kassidy's error. Hope I'm wrong that she was beaten, but don't think so. Glad you support the women in a positive manner. Happy to have company in that regard.
So again. She is the only one that gets beat during a game or the only one that is in a spot where you notice. What about her teammate who decided and to get clumsy and take down an opponent unnecessarily.

It is a TEAM game of press and cover and the cover failed.

Against Princeton Kassidy was perfect and played cover for other DB's getting beat down the left side

Just like a goalie. DB's get blamed.

You are way to critical of one player on an undefeated team who is getting the job done. EPL players get beat too.....should they all be released from their contracts. Sometimes the opponent can have a good play as well.
 
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It’s so funny how some people have no problem being critical of specific players, time and time again, but bash people the second they are critical of the head coach.
 
At times Riley played as if she was frustrated and let it get to her.
Reaching out and pushing an opponent when behind them rarely will go unnoticed.
The ref stopping the clock to speak to her was odd if he wasn't going to card her, as Glenn pointed out.
 
A Few thoughts on last night's game for what they're worth:
The Team played a very solid game.
Allie Lynch was great. Her sliding tackles were terrific. She is playing the best, most consistent, all around soccer I have seen her play in 4 years;
Sara Brocius had another great game. All over the field with strong smart play. Her through balls have been terrific, leading to goals;
Gianna Romano started at OB & had an excellent game. Strong on the ball, moved it well, very good decisions;
Arriana Kuryla subbed in for Romano at times & was very solid;
Riley Tiernan continues her hard, skilled, aggressive play all over the field. Believe she is really hungry for a goal. She is consistently dribbling to the center looking for a shot. As a result she has not been taking the ball to the base line where she is lethal. Her angle for a shot is diminished from there but her crosses result in so many goals, & she draws corners. Think it would help her & the team to mix it up;
There are other girls that deserve mention I am sure, but this is what immediately came to mind. GO RU! BEAT LSU!

Few additional thoughts:
Allie Lowrey once again is a finisher;
Kaylie Daigle had an excellent game even as she continues to deal with an ankle issue. She has grown so much since last year & if she continues to find the back of the net we will be that much tougher to handle;
Would like to see Sam Kroeger & Kaylie Daigle relieve Becci Fluchel from set piece duty. While Becci is playing great under the radar soccer her serves on set pieces tend to be pretty regularly not so good.
Disagree with you on Fluchel and set pieces (unless referring to direct shots at the net). Off the top of my head, I can think of two set pieces vs. LaSalle that would have been goals with better finishes. The first was a header that went over the crossbar (Lowrey, I think) and the second was a mid air one timer (would have been an amazing goal) that hit the side of the net (Emily Mason, I think). My point is that Fluchel has given multiple opportunities to her teammates to score on set pieces. FWIW, in my opinion the best player on the field right now is Brocius. So impressed with her.
 
So again. She is the only one that gets beat during a game or the only one that is in a spot where you notice. What about her teammate who decided and to get clumsy and take down an opponent unnecessarily.

It is a TEAM game of press and cover and the cover failed.

Against Princeton Kassidy was perfect and played cover for other DB's getting beat down the left side

Just like a goalie. DB's get blamed.

You are way to critical of one player on an undefeated team who is getting the job done. EPL players get beat too.....should they all be released from their contracts. Sometimes the opponent can have a good play as well.
She happens to be a CB which is critical & the last line of defense. If you continue to be selective in your citations of my posts on Kassidy suit yourself. I'll continue to call them as I see them.
 
It’s so funny how some people have no problem being critical of specific players, time and time again, but bash people the second they are critical of the head coach.
Isn't it also so funny how the emptiest barrels continue to make the most noise.
 
At times Riley played as if she was frustrated and let it get to her.
Reaching out and pushing an opponent when behind them rarely will go unnoticed.
The ref stopping the clock to speak to her was odd if he wasn't going to card her, as Glenn pointed out.
Yes I believe Reilly is frustrated & it is in her head a bit. That said, IMO she is far too good a soccer player to not hit her stride--hopefully by BIG play.

Just saw that LSU beat Princeton 2-0, though Princeton out shot them 14-7 I think it was. Should be a game on Sunday.
 
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Isn't it also so funny how the emptiest barrels continue to make the most noise.
It’s so funny how some people have no problem being critical of specific players, time and time again, but bash people the second they are critical of the head coach.
 
She happens to be a CB which is critical & the last line of defense. If you continue to be selective in your citations of my posts on Kassidy suit yourself. I'll continue to call them as I see them.
Whatever dude...I guess midfield and forward positions are not critical.
 
My issue is she keeps getting beaten. You can't have that in tight games against better competition. And you can't blame another girl for Kassidy's error. Hope I'm wrong that she was beaten, but don't think so. Glad you support the women in a positive manner. Happy to have company in that regard.
Rewatch the play. She was defended on the back side and there was no reason for player #2 to foul in the box. How is that Kassidy's error. They all should be able to play defense and dispossess a player.
 
My issue is she keeps getting beaten. You can't have that in tight games against better competition. And you can't blame another girl for Kassidy's error. Hope I'm wrong that she was beaten, but don't think so. Glad you support the women in a positive manner. Happy to have company in that regard.
Honest question, do you expect all of our defenders to have 100% completion in tackles and defensive challenges? I don’t think you truly understand that it’s quite literally impossible for that to happen. Even the absolute best NCAA defenders are winning 70-80% of their challenges. Which means, on average, each defender will lose 2-3 tackles or challenges on any defensive possession.

Take the game versus Buffalo. Buffalo entered RU’s final third 20 times. Assuming, for a moment, that those were split evenly between the three areas of the field (left, center, right), each defensive area would lose 2 defensive possessions each. This of course would elevate if there were more balls down the center. If it was more of a 5-10-5 split respectively, Mason and Banks would likely lose 3 defensive possessions and have to compensate for 1 each on the wings.

This is why team defense is so critical. Because not a single defender in the world will ever be able to nip every attack they face in the bud. If Kassidy was beaten, that was well within her threshold of 2 missed. Frankly, on replay, Fluchel and Romano had surrounded the opposing player and there was no conceivable outlet. Becci made an ill-advised attempt to tackle the ball away (one she makes in the middle of the field usually that results in a free kick but hey crickets on that), I assume with the idea of avoiding a corner, and it resulted in a PK.

But this is why team defending is so important, because on average Becci is going to lose 50% of those attempts. So the rest of the team has to make sure they’re there in the event she can’t wrangle the ball. It’s the same reason CBs are always in position to intercept a cross into the box, it’s because they know there’s a 30% chance it’s going to come to them. But is the LB or RB the one entirely at fault for that 2-3 times it does, even if they stop 7-8? It’s about making sure all defenders are on the same page so that, combined, they can mitigate the challenges they know they won’t win.
 
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How do you re watch it?
It's in the BTN+ archive.

I rewatched the play. At the top right corner of the box, Banks kind of went low to tackle the ball away, but the LaSalle player got by her (and by Romano, who was just to the player's right, so the player kind of "split" through Banks and Romano). Fluchel immediately ran in front of the LaSalle player as she split Banks and Romano, and made the contact.

Fluchel stepping in front of the LaSalle player was probably unnecessary, but I also think Banks made an unnecessary attempt to knock the ball away with a poorly executed slide tackle. It was a poor decision by both players.

Banks played a wonderful game against Princeton, probably the best she's played in any one game since coming to Rutgers. Last night, she had this mistake and also made one in the 2nd half where she flubbed a pass at the top of our box and the ball went directly to the LaSalle player. It could have been disastrous, but luckily the LaSalle player then made an errant pass, so there was no harm there. But it was another flub.

I still don't completely "trust" Banks back there, but she's definitely playing better this year. By the way, Emily Mason also made a really bad pass out of the box in the 2nd half that was stolen by LaSalle, but Rutgers quickly got the ball back. So it's not just Banks.

I think the real problem here is that we're comparing Banks and Mason to Gabby Provenzano, who basically never made a mistake last year and made all of the right decisions and was almost flawless in her execution. Probably not fair to Banks or Mason.
 
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It's in the BTN+ archive.

I rewatched the play. At the top right corner of the box, Banks kind of went low to tackle the ball away, but the LaSalle player got by her (and by Romano, who was just to the player's right, so the player kind of "split" through Banks and Romano). Fluchel immediately ran in front of the LaSalle player as she split Banks and Romano, and made the contact.

Fluchel stepping in front of the LaSalle player was probably unnecessary, but I also think Banks made an unnecessary attempt to knock the ball away with a poorly executed slide tackle. It was a poor decision by both players.

Banks played a wonderful game against Princeton, probably the best she's played in any one game since coming to Rutgers. Last night, she had this mistake and also made one in the 2nd half where she flubbed a pass at the top of our box and the ball went directly to the LaSalle player. It could have been disastrous, but luckily the LaSalle player then made an errant pass, so there was no harm there. But it was another flub.

I still don't completely "trust" Banks back there, but she's definitely playing better this year. By the way, Emily Mason also made a really bad pass out of the box in the 2nd half that was stolen by LaSalle, but Rutgers quickly got the ball back. So it's not just Banks.

I think the real problem here is that we're comparing Banks and Mason to Gabby Provenzano, who basically never made a mistake last year and made all of the right decisions and was almost flawless in her execution. Probably not fair to Banks or Mason.
I should clarify, I’m not saying Banks didn’t make mistakes, just that you can’t look at only her mistakes in a vacuum without realizing that even players with an 89% passing accuracy, like Banks had last year, are going to make 1 bad pass per 10 passes (and I doubt any defender is only making 10 passes). It’s how the team responds to the inevitable flub that matters. Gabby had to start somewhere; it’s impossible to compare a fifth year defender who played over 100 games with two sophomores with about 30 under their belt. Playing Mason and Banks together so much now is going to be huge for the two years after this one. Personally I’ve seen a huge improvement in their partnership just since the Providence game.
 
It's in the BTN+ archive.

I rewatched the play. At the top right corner of the box, Banks kind of went low to tackle the ball away, but the LaSalle player got by her (and by Romano, who was just to the player's right, so the player kind of "split" through Banks and Romano). Fluchel immediately ran in front of the LaSalle player as she split Banks and Romano, and made the contact.

Fluchel stepping in front of the LaSalle player was probably unnecessary, but I also think Banks made an unnecessary attempt to knock the ball away with a poorly executed slide tackle. It was a poor decision by both players.

Banks played a wonderful game against Princeton, probably the best she's played in any one game since coming to Rutgers. Last night, she had this mistake and also made one in the 2nd half where she flubbed a pass at the top of our box and the ball went directly to the LaSalle player. It could have been disastrous, but luckily the LaSalle player then made an errant pass, so there was no harm there. But it was another flub.

I still don't completely "trust" Banks back there, but she's definitely playing better this year. By the way, Emily Mason also made a really bad pass out of the box in the 2nd half that was stolen by LaSalle, but Rutgers quickly got the ball back. So it's not just Banks.

I think the real problem here is that we're comparing Banks and Mason to Gabby Provenzano, who basically never made a mistake last year and made all of the right decisions and was almost flawless in her execution. Probably not fair to Banks or Mason.
Can't find it in the big ten archive. Will try again.
 
I should clarify, I’m not saying Banks didn’t make mistakes, just that you can’t look at only her mistakes in a vacuum without realizing that even players with an 89% passing accuracy, like Banks had last year, are going to make 1 bad pass per 10 passes (and I doubt any defender is only making 10 passes). It’s how the team responds to the inevitable flub that matters. Gabby had to start somewhere; it’s impossible to compare a fifth year defender who played over 100 games with two sophomores with about 30 under their belt. Playing Mason and Banks together so much now is going to be huge for the two years after this one. Personally I’ve seen a huge improvement in their partnership just since the Providence game.
I understand your point completely. I was just giving my impression of that particular play since everyone was discussing it above.

I appreciate your balanced perspective here. But, I will say, even accounting for the percentages you’re talking about, Banks seems to make more mistakes and flubs than all of the defenders, but she has been much better this year than last (and better overall the last couple of games than even earlier this year).

So things are trending in the right direction. Once Misal returns, I think the defense will settle in with Lynch (who has been playing lights out at ROB) Mason, Banks, and Misal, with Kuryla in reserve (and Romano if necessary).
 
It's in the BTN+ archive.

I rewatched the play. At the top right corner of the box, Banks kind of went low to tackle the ball away, but the LaSalle player got by her (and by Romano, who was just to the player's right, so the player kind of "split" through Banks and Romano). Fluchel immediately ran in front of the LaSalle player as she split Banks and Romano, and made the contact.

Fluchel stepping in front of the LaSalle player was probably unnecessary, but I also think Banks made an unnecessary attempt to knock the ball away with a poorly executed slide tackle. It was a poor decision by both players.

Banks played a wonderful game against Princeton, probably the best she's played in any one game since coming to Rutgers. Last night, she had this mistake and also made one in the 2nd half where she flubbed a pass at the top of our box and the ball went directly to the LaSalle player. It could have been disastrous, but luckily the LaSalle player then made an errant pass, so there was no harm there. But it was another flub.

I still don't completely "trust" Banks back there, but she's definitely playing better this year. By the way, Emily Mason also made a really bad pass out of the box in the 2nd half that was stolen by LaSalle, but Rutgers quickly got the ball back. So it's not just Banks.

I think the real problem here is that we're comparing Banks and Mason to Gabby Provenzano, who basically never made a mistake last year and made all of the right decisions and was almost flawless in her execution. Probably not fair to Banks or Mason.
Tried once again. I get to the archive but don't know how to find the game. On Banks, let me state up front that I agree that she played very well vs Princeton & that her play this year has been an improvement over last years & that I have posted just that with some detail.
Let me also agree that she still makes more mistakes & has more flubs, including the ones pointed to by myself & others during yesterdays game, than all the other defenders. That is & has been my point. All the analytics, deflections & false parallels just can't obscure the facts.
I have also posted that I am rooting for her & that I hope she corrects her weaknesses & has a very good season. I will continue to post on what I see.
 
How do you re watch it?
Go to BTN+. Choose school and search from game.

I appreciate that we agree to disagree.

BTW: In the 3 minutes prior to the PK the midfield and forwards made bad passes and got beat numerous times.

The Lasalle player who passed the ball to the player who got by Kassidy beat 2 players on a spin move and there were 2 RU players on either side of the girl who got by Kassidy in the top corner of the 18. It looked like we took the ball away on the backside but #9 came in with a clumsy tackle.

Big game Sunday.
 
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