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Like that guy said, un believableRutgers 4-6 in Q1 Road games.
Purdue 4-4
Alabama 5-2
Kansas 7-3 in Q1 road games
Texas, Baylor 4-5, NW 4-4, Miami 4-3
I think that is the short list of teams with 4 Q1 road wins
One of these doesn't belongMorning update:
Indiana 28 (down ten slots!)
Virginia 29
Utah State 30
Michigan State 31
Rutgers 32
Iowa 33 (up ten slots!)
If the Spartans climb one more position, that's another Q1 win from our "home" game at MSG.
It happened last year around this time too, Loyola Chicago jumped about 8-9 spots from the 30s to the 20s after beating Evansville or someone like that by 50.It seems a bit absurd that a team can move 10 spots for one game this last in the season.
Every game is worth 1/30th in theory. Whether the first game or last night. Goes to show (a) how close the metrics are in the middle right now, and (b) how important blowouts are to the NET. Would be nice if we just destroy Minnesota again tomorrow and jump 5-6 more spots but might be too much to askIt happened last year around this time too, Loyola Chicago jumped about 8-9 spots from the 30s to the 20s after beating Evansville or someone like that by 50.
If we win at all it’s gravy. Win by 1 and we go to a 10 seed instead of the 8/9 game so be itMississippi St beat a bad South Carolina by 6 and fell 5 spots
Same vicinity as Minnesota
Rutgers needs to win by 15 just to make maintain
Not 15.. in theory it should be somewhere close to the spread or Bart spread.. 8-11 points.Mississippi St beat a bad South Carolina by 6 and fell 5 spots
Same vicinity as Minnesota
Rutgers needs to win by 15 just to maintain
If you are going to have categories, they have to cut off somewhere.This moving in and out of the top 30 is just damn stupid. 30 is Quad 1 and 31 is Quad 2. Really ? How ridiculous for the Committee counting one differently than the other. In most years there is a top 15-maybe 20 and 20 -50 or even to 70 is like splitting hairs. This year we are lucky if we have 10 teams that are a cut above the rest ( Frankly I believe almost none or at most 5 teams ) and not a whole lot of difference between 11-60.
I was thinking that from the start in 2018-19 how they created the 1-30/31-75/76-160/160+ Quad system. I know the Neutral court was based on the old RPI system 1-50/51-100/101-200/200+, not sure of road numbers came about 1-75/76-135/135-240/240+ either, given that there was 353 teams at that time, now 363.This moving in and out of the top 30 is just damn stupid. 30 is Quad 1 and 31 is Quad 2. Really ? How ridiculous for the Committee counting one differently than the other. In most years there is a top 15-maybe 20 and 20 -50 or even to 70 is like splitting hairs. This year we are lucky if we have 10 teams that are a cut above the rest ( Frankly I believe almost none or at most 5 teams ) and not a whole lot of difference between 11-60.
Dropped to 38.
Wisconsin will throttle Minnesota this weekend and get back to Q1. No doubt about that.Not that bad of a drop really all things considered
Wisconsin dropped to 77 so now Q2 win instead of Q1
Minnesota goes from 240 to 227 into Quad 3 territory. Our losses , so called “bad losses” are to 85 Seton Hall , 93 Nebraska 122 Temple and 227 Minnesota. Our wins excluding Quad 4 which is what Minnesota home 90-55 win was , are at #5 # Purdue ; # 25 Maryland # 29 Indiana , # 31 Michigan State # 45 Northwestern # 56 Penn State 2x, # 60 Ohio State , at # 77 Wisconsin , # 86 Wake Forest .( 4 of those wins in dominating fashion ).Dropped to 38.
Thanks, was copy/paste and missed updating that part.We're 38. 32 was the previous ranking.
We are # 37 Sunday morning . Seton Hall from 85 to 74 so into Quad 2 loss from Quad 3. Purdue # 5; Maryland #26, Indiana# 28, MSU # 31, Iowa #34,, Illinois #35, NW # 45, Penn State #57; Michigan # 53 , Ohio State # 63 ; Wisconsin # 78; Nebraska # 94
So 9-8 against above teams and 10-9 with Minnesota . We have the highest BIG wins and also the lowest loss away at Minnesota can be considered as a so called “ bad loss”. Kentucky lost to South Carolina 228 and Minnesota is # 230 and I do not see the cruxifixation of Kentucky like RU is getting on these boards. Have some perspective when comparing resumes.
Wake # 90, UMASS Lowell up to # 112, Temple # 121, Miami 35. RU wins pretty decent , RU losses not terrible We have enough top end wins plus 4 BIG 10 road wins ( should be 5 with OSU screwup) to not be in the bubble area and should be a solid 9 or maybe first # 10. Road wins are valued and top end wins are valued. Just an opinion.
because RU has more of these losses. Minnesota is Q3 but as bad as those other Q4s
Temple and Nebraska are Q3 losses...we are lucky for now SHU isnt in that catagory anymore.
wins vs wake and umass lowell are crap..meaingless, ru has a sos of 307 i think now non conference
great but almost every school has them, no one is saying ooh they beat those schools, how great for themWins against Wake and Umass-Lowell are what are keeping our Q3 record at 2-3 instead of 0-3.
You value things a little differently. Kentucky ‘s loss to South Carolina who is next to Minnesota was a wire to wire South Carolina win. We got beat on a buzzer beater blowing a 7-14 point lead for like 25-30 minutes. I believe and I think the committee should use something called game control which is a metric they use in football. Controlling a game for 39 minutes is awfully different than Kentucky ‘s wire to wire loss to South Carolina. I would argue 2x worse.because RU has more of these losses. Minnesota is Q3 but as bad as those other Q4s
ru is below 500 vs Q1,2,3
Temple and Nebraska are Q3 losses...we are lucky for now SHU isnt in that catagory anymore.
wins vs wake and umass lowell are crap..meaingless, ru has a sos of 307 i think now non conference
I agree BUT because of the name in their jersey they will be treated different than us..same will go for UNCYou value things a little differently. Kentucky ‘s loss to South Carolina who is next to Minnesota was a wire to wire South Carolina win. We got beat on a buzzer beater blowing a 7-14 point lead for like 25-30 minutes. I believe and I think the committee should use something called game control which is a metric they use in football. Controlling a game for 39 minutes is awfully different than Kentucky ‘s wire to wire loss to South Carolina. I would argue 2x worse.
Rutgers doesn’t have any other bad losses. None from a metrics standpoint . You say Temple and I say # 1 Houston lost to Temple on their home floor and was beating them for 25 minutes at home before they lost the rematch. They are an inconsistent team and lose to teams worse than them but they are “not trash”.
Kentucky had 2 Quad 3 losses and a Quad 4 loss . No reason to treat Kentucky different than Rutgers other than the name on the front of their jersey.
Game control is not a meaningful statistic.You value things a little differently. Kentucky ‘s loss to South Carolina who is next to Minnesota was a wire to wire South Carolina win. We got beat on a buzzer beater blowing a 7-14 point lead for like 25-30 minutes. I believe and I think the committee should use something called game control which is a metric they use in football. Controlling a game for 39 minutes is awfully different than Kentucky ‘s wire to wire loss to South Carolina. I would argue 2x worse.
Rutgers doesn’t have any other bad losses. None from a metrics standpoint . You say Temple and I say # 1 Houston lost to Temple on their home floor and was beating them for 25 minutes at home before they lost the rematch. They are an inconsistent team and lose to teams worse than them but they are “not trash”.
Kentucky had 2 Quad 3 losses and a Quad 4 loss . No reason to treat Kentucky different than Rutgers other than the name on the front of their jersey.
No one is trashing those wins like you do occasionally in your comments. Every single team 1-100 has warts they cannot be ignored. I think being close and seeing our team daily results in the team being scrutinized for some losses that all other teams have buy maybe at a different part of the schedulegreat but almost every school has them, no one is saying ooh they beat those schools, how great for them
Money money money first and foremostI agree BUT because of the name in their jersey they will be treated different than us..same will go for UNC
Always appreciate all the work, but want to point out that @wisconsin is upper q2RU to #38 (6th in the B1G)
Results:
Q1 (1-30 Home, 1-50 Neutral, 1-75 Away)
5 - @Purdue (W)
28 - Maryland (W)
30 - Indiana (W)
30 - @Indiana (L)
31 - @MSU (L)
34 - @Miami (L)
35 - @Illinois (L)
40 - @Iowa (L)
41 - @Northwestern (W)
54 - @Penn St (W)
56 - @Ohio St (L*)
Q2 (31-75 Home 51-100 Neutral, 76-135 Away)
31 - MSU (W - *"home")
40 - Iowa (L)
41 - Northwestern (L)
54 - Penn St (W)
56 - Ohio St (W)
58 - (N) Michigan (W)
58 - Michigan (L)
Q3 (76-160 Home, 101-200 Neutral, 136-240 Away)
78 - Seton Hall (L)
81 - @Wisconsin (W)
90 - Wake Forest (W)
94 - Nebraska (L)
115 - UMass-Lowell (W)
120 - (N) Temple (L)
221 - @Minnesota (L)
Q4 (161+ Home, 201+Neutral, 241+ Away)
216 - Rider (W)
221 - Minnesota (W)
293 - Bucknell (W)
326 - Sacred Heart (W)
327 - Coppin St (W)
341 - Columbia (W)
343 - Central CT St (W)
Upcoming
Q1 (1-30 Home, 1-50 Neutral, 1-75 Away)
5 - (N) Purdue
Notes
- SHU and @Wisconsin both to Q3