Basketball Omoruyi visiting Texas A&M
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Not at all what I meant. He’s an absolute lowlife because of the way he did it. He showed no respect to the team or Pikiell... After midnight without the coaches knowing. Reminds me of when the Colts left Baltimore. He couldn’t even spell Pikiell’s his name correctly.
This x 1,000.
In today’s age of college athletics I can’t ever fault a kid for transferring.
It’s the way he did it.
The way he did his teammates and coaches like that in the middle of the night as a Captain is pathetic.
Why...if he has an open spot for this coming year there is no harm...
NEWSFLASH....Eugene is VERY good
He told Pikiell before he transferred. You don't know why he left, as i donmt If he left because his teamates were being a$$e$ why would he call and tell them?
I don't think Yeboah and pursuit of PF 2019 Hason Ward was by accident... neither was a pressing need, taking both didn't make sense...RU was prepared and aggressive in recruiting both players.
Why don’t we separate this into two parts.
1. Eugene give his all during his three years. He always gave 100%. He improved each year and became more valuable to the team each year.
2. Eugene’s way of announcing his departure was immature and reeked of selfishness.
What we do not know is whether there are circumstances which might mitigate number 2.
1. Eugene give his all during his three years. He always gave 100%. He improved each year and became more valuable to the team each year.
2. Eugene’s way of announcing his departure was immature and reeked of selfishness.
What we do not know is whether there are circumstances which might mitigate number 2.
That's a big assumption.....RU certainly wanted Eugene....maybe be wasn't happy at the end, then here comes the Yeboah pursuit....which probably was the hedge by the staff.....then a very VERY late pursuit of Hason Ward, a player if RU had a full year head start on or knew Thiam and Eugene could have been casualties, could have targeted and potentially landed.
I don't think pursuing either player for 2019 made sense, the rotation was pretty much set with 1 certain departure in Doorson.
One person pointed out to me earlier that if you review the RU basketball videos since the season ended, you see lots of players playing wiffle ball, or working out....notice who barely appeared if at all in the videos.....Eugene....
These aren't speculating items, those videos were weeks ago. I don't put much into the team captain stuff, that's pretty old news...
A PF was not a need? The team returns ZERO PF's in 2020. You don't turn down an athlete like Hason Ward if you can land him....you go very hard after him.
There was no need for 2019 until Thiam departed....there wasnt an available ship until Thiam got booted in late February or early March....and Yeboah stepped into Doorson spot.
Eugene had one more season, which to me, drastically reduces his value to the program as a transfer out in my opinion. We have a comparable player for his last year as a wash....there is no substantial loss with his departure with Yeboah here.
My opinion of this is drastically different than many believing or assessing Eugene's value. I am not looking at the program for just this coming season, but if I was, Yeboah is a better player that fits what we do now for this coming season. And the more important item is that Yeboah wants to be at RU, Eugene did not.
I think you're making a bigger assumption than I am. If you expect the player back, and you schedule a game to celebrate him, you don't expect him to transfer. They brought in Yeboah because he was a player who can play the 3 and the 4 to spell Eugene and Ron as one of the first guys off the bench. Ward was probably someone they saw having potential that they could bring along a little more slowly with all the depth they had.
They didn't see this coming. No harm in that. It happens. It's a big loss. That happens too. I know you disagree. That's fine.
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We weren’t his only major D1 offer.
For an astute observer it should be pretty clear this is a result of a personal issue with the team. And clear reason why Pike was caught off guard. The players not so much. Pike probably got caught up pretty quickly once he asked his guys what the heck was going on.
Time to move on
I'm telling you (whether you care or not) that it was on the table for him to depart....the Toronto game was a gesture of faith towards Eugene to potentially stay, but not the primary reason for it.....the game was scheduled and mentioned as a Eugene item (which it wasn't specifically designed for just him).....RU was going to schedule the game regardless. Eugene knew he was heading out, this was chess, not checkers.
And no high major kid transfers without having an idea of where he is potentially able to land. Nobody quits a job, unless they're ultra confident they have one or two offers in their hands first.
At a lower level program, different story....at a high major, kids, their families and others know. The posting and media aspect was surprising, the recruiting process and targets say otherwise.
I wish Omoruyi the best. I hope he plays really well wherever he goes. Just not against Rutgers.
I still really feel he got word that Yeboah was playing really well and didn't want to be second fiddle, or even have to think about his playing time coming down.
Only thing that makes sense.
Something tells me Omoruyi does not play as well as he hopes when transferring. He could, but he will be up against big competition on his team, and will not be the key focus, or best player. I don't know how kids like him deal with that. I am not hoping for it, but he may have a harsh reality of D1 competition at his new team.
I still really feel he got word that Yeboah was playing really well and didn't want to be second fiddle, or even have to think about his playing time coming down.
Only thing that makes sense.
Something tells me Omoruyi does not play as well as he hopes when transferring. He could, but he will be up against big competition on his team, and will not be the key focus, or best player. I don't know how kids like him deal with that. I am not hoping for it, but he may have a harsh reality of D1 competition at his new team.
He'll end up at Oregon. His ego is so big he thinks the town the university is located in is named after him.
Except we had NO priority for him until about a month ago
And if we had yeboah and gene ...then yes...a power forward was not a need for the class of 2019....especially if you believe (like I do) thar Harper is your stretch four for 2020-2021 and 2021-2022.
Yeboah didn't come here to be a player who spells other players. He came here to start and was probably told he would likely do so.
Speculation ...but I think because this was a me first move by Eugene and not the type of story a writter is going to paint Him in a nice light
Time will tell...but I think that it is
By this logic we shouldn't have taken anyone for 2019 because there are no immediate needs.
Bottom line it will probably come out or be known by someone why he left. If we are being fair....most likely the blame will be with Eugene AND another party.
When we heard from a few sources that McClung didn't gel with the team I quickly went in to the mode where people are right now with Eugene. We don't need a player like him. if in fact the McClung rumor was true and it happened again with Eugene then it is time to start asking questions about the true leadership of this team.
Again huge specualtions at this point.
When we heard from a few sources that McClung didn't gel with the team I quickly went in to the mode where people are right now with Eugene. We don't need a player like him. if in fact the McClung rumor was true and it happened again with Eugene then it is time to start asking questions about the true leadership of this team.
Again huge specualtions at this point.
And yet, all the remaining players get along. You can see it in the Instagram videos. The camaraderie is strong.
So questioning Steve Pikiell? I am unclear here.
A lot of people still believe D1 basketball is a coaches league. It is slowly becoming a players league.
I don't think Omoruyi liked that another player was coming in for one year. I think he took it personally, and assessed the other players skill set. From there, he thought it might lessen his minutes, which it most likely will. I also think Jay Young leaving probably had something to do with it. He is a superior big coach to most out there.
It's a business, and Pikiell is very business like. I believe he tries to bring in kids of high character, and he has done so in that regard. I don't think he's afraid to let players know how thing are run, and his expectation of them.
And he wouldn't be upset if both your lungs collapsed ( of course you live).. see how that works?
Posting on IG in the middle of the night was stupid. He definitely should have waited until morning but many people still would have been mad.
In a perfect world he would have met with his Coach before leaving to go home for the break. Maybe he wasn't sure. Maybe he wanted to sit down with family to discuss it. Maybe he felt he couldn't think objectively while on campus.
Might not do any harm to the program but if he has to sit for a year because of transfer rules and then play he's taking that open spot for two years
in order to play just one (2020-21)
He's good, but is he really 2for1 good or could that spot be filled by a HS recruit that has 5 to play 4 or a JUCO with immediate eligibility and minimum of 2 years to play two.
Don't see A/M going the 2 for one route.
But I'm not positive Buzz won't think EO's worth taking on as a 2 for one.
Russ, I apologize if I missed it but have you given your true opinion as to why he transferred? I realize you might not be tied into RU enough to really know.
I’m having trouble seeing it as anything other then not wanting to compete for his minutes or felt slighted or disrespected by the younger guys.
1). He is good, very good at times, but in no way a star. Meaning I’m sure your top teams in the country weren’t whispering in his ear
2) Pike did a lot for him to help get him to this point, and he was captain of the team
3) He is now taking official to TAMU, not a team that is expected to be anything great this year.
4) Makes it seem leaving for a sure fire NCAA team was not the motivation
To me, it all adds up to just quitting on his team and coaches. Had there been some underlying issue (mistreatment, fight with teammate etc) I feel like that would have been leaked by now.
I’m not going to wish the kid injury or call him a lowlife, but it certainly would lead me to the conclusion he isn’t the leader or competitor many were led to believe
Us Rutgers fans have a distorted reality of what a Very Good college player is. He was good and had some Very Good stretches.
Lol at PF not a need. EO Carter and Yeboah all gone after this year. Tons of guards and wings. We don't even have a starting PF next year unless it's going to be Harper. Pretty much our biggest need
Sit one play one isn't as damaging this year. LOTS of teams with open scholarships right now and not enough quality bodies left felfrom the HS class/transfer market to fill. Rutgers having two open isn't much of an outlier.
We will find out soon enough how important he was to our team. I'd really love to be wrong here. I hope NJH is right here. For the record he was the only one saying what many are saying now while Eugene was here.
Posting on IG in the middle of the night was stupid. I chalk that up to a bad decision by a guy who has grown up part of a generation that communicates almost everything via social media or texting. Hell, they break up with girlfriends via social media. He definitely should have waited until morning imo but many people still would have been mad.
In a perfect world he would have met with his Coach before leaving to go home for the break. Maybe he wasn't sure. Maybe he wanted to sit down with family to discuss it. Maybe he felt he couldn't think objectively while on campus.
The Colts snuck out of town after the owner repeatedly said, in interviews and press conferences, that he wasn't moving the team. Different situation.
I never gave an opinion as to why he transferred but after my initial "why did he do this", which lasted about 15 minutes, I haven't given it much thought.
Almost 1,000 kids transfer every year, it is what it is.
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WHAT DID HE BRING ON THE DEFENSIVE END!!! DO YOU WATCH THESE GAMES?! SERIOUS!!! DO YOU EVEN WATCH!?!? HE WAS AN OFFENSIVE PLAYER, HE STUNK ON DEFENSE. I AM YELLING
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i can tell you for a fact both staff and players were caught off guard. He didn't tell his teammates before that ig post.
If we weren't his only major d1 offer why did he commit as soon as we offered him in august? Was he going to just forego going to college in 3 weeks in hopes of landing another offer in the fall? lol
You are right....he did nothing on defense. :rolleyes:. Never drew 53 charges because he was soft and scared. Never rebounded but he still led the team in rebounds.
And...the Illinois center scored his points on Doorson and Johnson. Eugene only guarded him for a short stretch. But, perimeter player Palmer lit up everyone in the Big 10 Tourney.
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