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OT: 2023 Rock and Roll HOF Nominations and Billboard's Handicapping of Chances to Make It

RUGuitarMan said:
I don’t think any of these bands created a “new genre” of music. These are all rock bands, RNR being a major genre of music contrasted with Jazz, Blues, etc. “Grunge” , “Hair Metal” are labels and labels can get kind of silly. The bands from Seattle had their own sound and each was a little different. It represented a change in the sound from what had been the popular rock sound during the 80s. Typically the next wave of rock music consumers coming want something different every 10 years or so. The popular sound gets stale, watered down and copied to a caricature of itself. It’s a reoccurring cycle in rock music. See Billy Joel’s song regarding Punk music, “It’s All Rock And Roll To Me”.
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Solid post. There are a myriad of "styles" and the sheer number of labels can be dizzying - as can be any conversation that seeks to affix a label on any particular band.

I always like to refer to the Eagles in these conversations. What are they? In their vast catalog there are elements of blues, country, "southern rock", classic rock, etc.

"Hotel California" (the song) is actually a fandango - the chord progression being in what is commonly known as the "Spanish progression". There's actually a mariachi cover version of Hotel California, with Spanish lyrics, that is fabulous.
 
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RU4Real said:
Solid post. There are a myriad of "styles" and the sheer number of labels can be dizzying - as can be any conversation that seeks to affix a label on any particular band.

I always like to refer to the Eagles in these conversations. What are they? In their vast catalog there are elements of blues, country, "southern rock", classic rock, etc.

"Hotel California" (the song) is actually a fandango - the chord progression being in what is commonly known as the "Spanish progression". There's actually a mariachi cover version of Hotel California, with Spanish lyrics, that is fabulous.
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Solid post on top of a solid post. I lean towards hard rock/metal and punk, but I hate classifications, particularly sub genre classifications. But I like anything that has some heart and soul, which some may not see with harder rock music. Just curious, how would you "classify" this band/music? Also for @RUGuitarMan .

They are playing in Asbury over the 4th of July, and I think I'm going to go see these guys.

 
Knight Shift said:
Solid post on top of a solid post. I lean towards hard rock/metal and punk, but I hate classifications, particularly sub genre classifications. But I like anything that has some heart and soul, which some may not see with harder rock music. Just curious, how would you "classify" this band/music? Also for @RUGuitarMan .

They are playing in Asbury over the 4th of July, and I think I'm going to go see these guys.

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The first thing that comes to mind is "really good". It's a pretty straightforward cover of "Dixie Chicken" so without listening to any of their other material I can only look at them through the Little Feat lens.

Little Feat was really unique in their heyday of the early to mid 70s. Even the more extended, jazz-oriented rock groups (Grand Funk Railroad, Chicago) had swallowed the hard rock pill, but Little Feat never did. Their sound is definitively New Orleans / Bayou derived and they have often been referred to as "swamp rock". You can hear some delta blues but there are clear zydeco influences as well. It all comes together quite well.

I hope I've failed to answer your question satisfactorily. 😁
 
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RU4Real said:
The first thing that comes to mind is "really good". It's a pretty straightforward cover of "Dixie Chicken" so without listening to any of their other material I can only look at them through the Little Feat lens.

Little Feat was really unique in their heyday of the early to mid 70s. Even the more extended, jazz-oriented rock groups (Grand Funk Railroad, Chicago) had swallowed the hard rock pill, but Little Feat never did. Their sound is definitively New Orleans / Bayou derived and they have often been referred to as "swamp rock". You can hear some delta blues but there are clear zydeco influences as well. It all comes together quite well.

I hope I've failed to answer your question satisfactorily. 😁
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What a dipshit post by me. Too much multitasking, and as I listened to that clip (not listening all the way through or at the title), I thought- sounds like Little Feat--DUH!!

Seems they do a lot of covers. They are from Montana. I may be out of line saying this, but these guys rock! Here's a Bob Dylan cover:

 
Knight Shift said:
What a dipshit post by me. Too much multitasking, and as I listened to that clip (not listening all the way through or at the title), I thought- sounds like Little Feat--DUH!!

Seems they do a lot of covers. They are from Montana. I may be out of line saying this, but these guys rock! Here's a Bob Dylan cover:

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This one's pretty unmistakably bluegrass. They're good, though. Really good.
 
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Knight Shift said:
What a dipshit post by me. Too much multitasking, and as I listened to that clip (not listening all the way through or at the title), I thought- sounds like Little Feat--DUH!!

Seems they do a lot of covers. They are from Montana. I may be out of line saying this, but these guys rock! Here's a Bob Dylan cover:

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This is really good, a bluegrass version of a Dylan song. Billy Strings is playing with them here (with hat on) and he is a personal favorite. You might be interested in knowing that Strings grew up with Bluegrass but ventured into much heavier music as a teen and played in a Heavy Metal band for several years. He likes much of that. As for Little Feat, I think they are one of the most underrated rock bands from the 70s with an eclectic, unique sound. They were cited as the favorite band of both Led Zeppelin and The Allman Bros Band back then. That’s a pretty good complement.
 
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Hope Madonna is OK. Regardless of people's feelings on her, she is an iconic artist, and not doing well right now.

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Madonna intubated in ICU after being found unresponsive in NYC

Madonna’s longtime manager, Guy Oseary, shared that his client had “developed a serious bacterial infection which led to a several day stay in the ICU.”
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She deserves it for assassinating weird Al
 
RUGuitarMan said:
This is really good, a bluegrass version of a Dylan song. Billy Strings is playing with them here (with hat on) and he is a personal favorite. You might be interested in knowing that Strings grew up with Bluegrass but ventured into much heavier music as a teen and played in a Heavy Metal band for several years. He likes much of that. As for Little Feat, I think they are one of the most underrated rock bands from the 70s with an eclectic, unique sound. They were cited as the favorite band of both Led Zeppelin and The Allman Bros Band back then. That’s a pretty good complement.
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Give it 20 years and Billy will be in the RnR HOF, Country Music HOF and a member of the Grand Ole Opry. The guy’s a phenom
 
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Knight Shift said:
Show the work. And please, don't bring up that dreck All I Want to Do Is Have Some Fun. That is some weak drivel right there not worthy of winning a high school battle of the bands.

Doubt it. Cyndi broke new ground in performance, video and other areas. Cheryl Crow is bland as bland can be.
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So true.
 
I thought this fits here- later this year, Dolly Parton is releasing a rock album of 9 originals and 21 covers as a response to being inducted against her will into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The track list is wild. Just for the cheese factor alone, I am looking forward to this:

  1. “Rockstar” (special guest Richie Sambora)
  2. “World on Fire”
  3. “Every Breath You Take” (feat. Sting)
  4. “Open Arms” (feat. Steve Perry)
  5. “Magic Man” (feat. Ann Wilson with special guest Howard Leese)
  6. “Long As I Can See the Light’ (feat. John Fogerty)
  7. “Either Or” (feat. Kid Rock)
  8. “I Want You Back” (feat. Steven Tyler with special guest Warren Haynes)
  9. “What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done for You” (feat. Stevie Nicks with special guest Waddy Wachtel)
  10. “Purple Rain”
  11. “Baby, I Love Your Way” (feat. Peter Frampton)
  12. “I Hate Myself for Loving You” (feat. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts)
  13. “Night Moves” (feat. Chris Stapleton)
  14. “Wrecking Ball” (feat. Miley Cyrus)
  15. “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” (feat. P!nk & Brandi Carlile)
  16. “Keep on Loving You” (feat. Kevin Cronin)
  17. “Heart of Glass” (feat. Debbie Harry)
  18. “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me” (feat. Elton John)
  19. “Tried to Rock and Roll Me” (feat. Melissa Etheridge)
  20. “Stairway to Heaven” (feat. Lizzo & Sasha Flute)
  21. “We Are the Champions”
  22. “Bygones” (feat. Rob Halford with special guests Nikki Sixx & John 5)
  23. My Blue Tears (feat. Simon Le Bon)
  24. “What’s Up?” (feat. Linda Perry)
  25. “You’re No Good” (feat. Emmylou Harris & Sheryl Crow)
  26. “Heartbreaker” (feat. Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo)
  27. “Bittersweet” (feat. Michael McDonald)
  28. “I Dreamed About Elvis” (feat. Ronnie McDowell with special guest The Jordanaires)
  29. “Let It Be” (feat. Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr with special guests Peter Frampton & Mick Fleetwood)
  30. “Free Bird” (feat. Ronnie Van Zant with special guests Gary Rossington, Artimus Pyle and The Artimus Pyle Band
www.savingcountrymusic.com

Dolly Parton Releases Wild Track List for Upcoming Rock Album -...

Talking a play out of the Morgan Wallen/Zach Bryan playbook, Dolly Parton has decided to go big.
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CranfordKnight said:
I thought this fits here- later this year, Dolly Parton is releasing a rock album of 9 originals and 21 covers as a response to being inducted against her will into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The track list is wild. Just for the cheese factor alone, I am looking forward to this:

  1. “Rockstar” (special guest Richie Sambora)
  2. “World on Fire”
  3. “Every Breath You Take” (feat. Sting)
  4. “Open Arms” (feat. Steve Perry)
  5. “Magic Man” (feat. Ann Wilson with special guest Howard Leese)
  6. “Long As I Can See the Light’ (feat. John Fogerty)
  7. “Either Or” (feat. Kid Rock)
  8. “I Want You Back” (feat. Steven Tyler with special guest Warren Haynes)
  9. “What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done for You” (feat. Stevie Nicks with special guest Waddy Wachtel)
  10. “Purple Rain”
  11. “Baby, I Love Your Way” (feat. Peter Frampton)
  12. “I Hate Myself for Loving You” (feat. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts)
  13. “Night Moves” (feat. Chris Stapleton)
  14. “Wrecking Ball” (feat. Miley Cyrus)
  15. “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” (feat. P!nk & Brandi Carlile)
  16. “Keep on Loving You” (feat. Kevin Cronin)
  17. “Heart of Glass” (feat. Debbie Harry)
  18. “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me” (feat. Elton John)
  19. “Tried to Rock and Roll Me” (feat. Melissa Etheridge)
  20. “Stairway to Heaven” (feat. Lizzo & Sasha Flute)
  21. “We Are the Champions”
  22. “Bygones” (feat. Rob Halford with special guests Nikki Sixx & John 5)
  23. My Blue Tears (feat. Simon Le Bon)
  24. “What’s Up?” (feat. Linda Perry)
  25. “You’re No Good” (feat. Emmylou Harris & Sheryl Crow)
  26. “Heartbreaker” (feat. Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo)
  27. “Bittersweet” (feat. Michael McDonald)
  28. “I Dreamed About Elvis” (feat. Ronnie McDowell with special guest The Jordanaires)
  29. “Let It Be” (feat. Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr with special guests Peter Frampton & Mick Fleetwood)
  30. “Free Bird” (feat. Ronnie Van Zant with special guests Gary Rossington, Artimus Pyle and The Artimus Pyle Band
www.savingcountrymusic.com

Dolly Parton Releases Wild Track List for Upcoming Rock Album -...

Talking a play out of the Morgan Wallen/Zach Bryan playbook, Dolly Parton has decided to go big.
www.savingcountrymusic.com www.savingcountrymusic.com
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Doubt it's the World on Fire by Corrosion of Conformity, but that would be epic.

 
CranfordKnight said:
I thought this fits here- later this year, Dolly Parton is releasing a rock album of 9 originals and 21 covers as a response to being inducted against her will into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The track list is wild. Just for the cheese factor alone, I am looking forward to this:

  1. “Rockstar” (special guest Richie Sambora)
  2. “World on Fire”
  3. “Every Breath You Take” (feat. Sting)
  4. “Open Arms” (feat. Steve Perry)
  5. “Magic Man” (feat. Ann Wilson with special guest Howard Leese)
  6. “Long As I Can See the Light’ (feat. John Fogerty)
  7. “Either Or” (feat. Kid Rock)
  8. “I Want You Back” (feat. Steven Tyler with special guest Warren Haynes)
  9. “What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done for You” (feat. Stevie Nicks with special guest Waddy Wachtel)
  10. “Purple Rain”
  11. “Baby, I Love Your Way” (feat. Peter Frampton)
  12. “I Hate Myself for Loving You” (feat. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts)
  13. “Night Moves” (feat. Chris Stapleton)
  14. “Wrecking Ball” (feat. Miley Cyrus)
  15. “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” (feat. P!nk & Brandi Carlile)
  16. “Keep on Loving You” (feat. Kevin Cronin)
  17. “Heart of Glass” (feat. Debbie Harry)
  18. “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me” (feat. Elton John)
  19. “Tried to Rock and Roll Me” (feat. Melissa Etheridge)
  20. “Stairway to Heaven” (feat. Lizzo & Sasha Flute)
  21. “We Are the Champions”
  22. “Bygones” (feat. Rob Halford with special guests Nikki Sixx & John 5)
  23. My Blue Tears (feat. Simon Le Bon)
  24. “What’s Up?” (feat. Linda Perry)
  25. “You’re No Good” (feat. Emmylou Harris & Sheryl Crow)
  26. “Heartbreaker” (feat. Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo)
  27. “Bittersweet” (feat. Michael McDonald)
  28. “I Dreamed About Elvis” (feat. Ronnie McDowell with special guest The Jordanaires)
  29. “Let It Be” (feat. Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr with special guests Peter Frampton & Mick Fleetwood)
  30. “Free Bird” (feat. Ronnie Van Zant with special guests Gary Rossington, Artimus Pyle and The Artimus Pyle Band
www.savingcountrymusic.com

Dolly Parton Releases Wild Track List for Upcoming Rock Album -...

Talking a play out of the Morgan Wallen/Zach Bryan playbook, Dolly Parton has decided to go big.
www.savingcountrymusic.com www.savingcountrymusic.com
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How could Dolly be doing "Free Bird" featuring Ronnie Van Zant ?
He's dead.
 
Kbee3 said:
How could Dolly be doing "Free Bird" featuring Ronnie Van Zant ?
He's dead.
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CranfordKnight said:
I thought this fits here- later this year, Dolly Parton is releasing a rock album of 9 originals and 21 covers as a response to being inducted against her will into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The track list is wild. Just for the cheese factor alone, I am looking forward to this:

  1. “Rockstar” (special guest Richie Sambora)
  2. “World on Fire”
  3. “Every Breath You Take” (feat. Sting)
  4. “Open Arms” (feat. Steve Perry)
  5. “Magic Man” (feat. Ann Wilson with special guest Howard Leese)
  6. “Long As I Can See the Light’ (feat. John Fogerty)
  7. “Either Or” (feat. Kid Rock)
  8. “I Want You Back” (feat. Steven Tyler with special guest Warren Haynes)
  9. “What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done for You” (feat. Stevie Nicks with special guest Waddy Wachtel)
  10. “Purple Rain”
  11. “Baby, I Love Your Way” (feat. Peter Frampton)
  12. “I Hate Myself for Loving You” (feat. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts)
  13. “Night Moves” (feat. Chris Stapleton)
  14. “Wrecking Ball” (feat. Miley Cyrus)
  15. “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” (feat. P!nk & Brandi Carlile)
  16. “Keep on Loving You” (feat. Kevin Cronin)
  17. “Heart of Glass” (feat. Debbie Harry)
  18. “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me” (feat. Elton John)
  19. “Tried to Rock and Roll Me” (feat. Melissa Etheridge)
  20. “Stairway to Heaven” (feat. Lizzo & Sasha Flute)
  21. “We Are the Champions”
  22. “Bygones” (feat. Rob Halford with special guests Nikki Sixx & John 5)
  23. My Blue Tears (feat. Simon Le Bon)
  24. “What’s Up?” (feat. Linda Perry)
  25. “You’re No Good” (feat. Emmylou Harris & Sheryl Crow)
  26. “Heartbreaker” (feat. Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo)
  27. “Bittersweet” (feat. Michael McDonald)
  28. “I Dreamed About Elvis” (feat. Ronnie McDowell with special guest The Jordanaires)
  29. “Let It Be” (feat. Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr with special guests Peter Frampton & Mick Fleetwood)
  30. “Free Bird” (feat. Ronnie Van Zant with special guests Gary Rossington, Artimus Pyle and The Artimus Pyle Band
www.savingcountrymusic.com

Dolly Parton Releases Wild Track List for Upcoming Rock Album -...

Talking a play out of the Morgan Wallen/Zach Bryan playbook, Dolly Parton has decided to go big.
www.savingcountrymusic.com www.savingcountrymusic.com
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Yes posted this already on new music thread aling with the awesome cover of Magic Man

Its going to the be the album of the year
 
I was listening to "The Logical Song" last week when it dawned on me Supertramp is not in the Hall of Fame.

That makes no sense.
 
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mdk01 said:
Only 2 quality albums. Not enough for the HOF. LOL back in '69 before Mississippi Queen was released they were playing high schools in NJ.
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My favorite by Mountain is still Theme From An Imaginary Western....Leslie West kills it on that guitar solo.
 
mdk01 said:
Only 2 quality albums. Not enough for the HOF. LOL back in '69 before Mississippi Queen was released they were playing high schools in NJ.
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The Who and The Doors played at Union Catholic in 1967.
Also Black Sabbath and Cream.

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Black Sabbath plays Union Catholic High School

On the second night of their tour, Black Sabbath played an uncommon stop for most rock bands. Union Catholic High School in Scotch Plains, New Jersey.
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mdk01 said:
Only 2 quality albums. Not enough for the HOF. LOL back in '69 before Mississippi Queen was released they were playing high schools in NJ.
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One of the RRHOF criteria is the influence of an artist on a genre of music. Leslie West influenced a lot of guitar players. Mountain was a very influential power trio. In their era, they ranked behind Cream and The Jimi Hendrix Experience
 
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Gotta admit something. I grew up in the 80s and 90s. That was my core time for music. Love both these decades, the music was so unique and distinct. So much character. However, the 70s were the best decade for music hands down. Up until about 5 years ago, I would have trolled and dumped on you "old" people! LOL. But seriously, quality 70s music just lasts and is legendary.
 
T2Kplus20 said:
Gotta admit something. I grew up in the 80s and 90s. That was my core time for music. Love both these decades, the music was so unique and distinct. So much character. However, the 70s were the best decade for music hands down. Up until about 5 years ago, I would have trolled and dumped on you "old" people! LOL. But seriously, quality 70s music just lasts and is legendary.
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Shush. Just listen.

 
T2Kplus20 said:
Gotta admit something. I grew up in the 80s and 90s. That was my core time for music. Love both these decades, the music was so unique and distinct. So much character. However, the 70s were the best decade for music hands down. Up until about 5 years ago, I would have trolled and dumped on you "old" people! LOL. But seriously, quality 70s music just lasts and is legendary.
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The period from 1966 - 1975 is the best 10 year period for Rock, R&B & Country music in my opinion. There are a lot of reasons for that and I don’t think it will ever be duplicated. The combination of innovative, soulful musicianship is on another level. Typically, people who are very serious about making meaningful popular music find their way back to that period. For those not familiar with that era, you need to do a deep dive. You won’t be disappointed.
 
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RU4Real said:
Peter Frampton is not yet inducted. As far as I'm concerned, every inductee from now until the time he's admitted is illegitimate.
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Frampton is one of many, the conspicuous absence of whom invalidates the entire HOF enterprise.
 
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RUGuitarMan said:
The period from 1966 - 1975 is the best 10 year period for Rock, R&B & Country music in my opinion. There are a lot of reasons for that and I don’t think it will ever be duplicated. The combination of innovative, soulful musicianship is on another level. Typically, people who are very serious about making meaningful popular music find their way back to that period. For those not familiar with that era, you need to do a deep dive. You won’t be disappointed.
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And '77-80 was the equivalent of the Great Depression. Yes there were a few exceptions but disco sucks
 
T2Kplus20 said:
Gotta admit something. I grew up in the 80s and 90s. That was my core time for music. Love both these decades, the music was so unique and distinct. So much character. However, the 70s were the best decade for music hands down. Up until about 5 years ago, I would have trolled and dumped on you "old" people! LOL. But seriously, quality 70s music just lasts and is legendary.
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Since you never heard of Mountain, how about Blind Faith? What turned out to be a short lived early "super group".
A post Cream Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton and post Traffic Steve Winwood. Only put out one album.
This is there most familiar song.
Winwood was only 21 years old here.

 
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Wow. I did not know that.
From a few years ago on NPR doing acoustic.
Seems like a good guy.
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Frampton used to live locally (Briarcliff) when he was at his peak in the 70s.
He was having a lot of work done on his place, and trade guys used to bring their daughters to work claiming they were "assistants." Frampton knew what was going on and was really cool about it. He used to hang out at a restaurant called "Dudley's" in Ossining. It was a nice place in a historic district. Everybody liked him and he wasn't off the hook the way a lot of rockers could be at the time. No rehab or choking on vomit
 
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