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OT - Bear attack in NJ

Fighting back is a last resort. But yeah, if all else fails, why not fight back. I'm going off memory, but I believe that some black bears will, under certain conditions, leave you alone if you play dead. But like I said - it's complicated and it's tough to know exactly what the conditions are.

A nice simple question is what to do if a polar bear is after you. [laughing]

that ones easy...make sure your with someone who is slower than u!![roll][roll]
 
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Generally black bear are timid and being attacked is rare. In this attack the bear was cornered in the cave. It was probably in the cave seeking a place to stay for the winter.
tell that to the Edison kids family . He was killed last year.
 
maybe the government should stop making bears look like this...

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...and instead present them like this... give this teddy to your kid.. the nightmares could save his life one day

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that ones easy...make sure your with someone who is slower than u!![roll][roll]


I think that's what happened to the Rutgers student who was caught by a bear last year. Four kids started to run and the bear killed one.

Just north of NJ is Harriman Park (NY) the bears are hanging out with people using the lean-tos to camp. The bears are losing fear of people and people of the bears. Bad things bound to happen. There are also too many animals shows with hosts petting sharks, bears, alligators etc - like they are Disney animals

Bear Attacks Rutgers Student
http://nypost.com/2014/11/25/hiker-took-cell-phone-pictures-of-bear-before-deadly-attack/
 
Generally black bear are timid and being attacked is rare. In this attack the bear was cornered in the cave. It was probably in the cave seeking a place to stay for the winter.
Now they are reporting that the bear dragged the guy into a cave. So the bear was not cornered in the cave.
Edit- never mind, the guy did entered the cave and then the bear attacked and dragged him deeper into the cave.
 
As I recall, with the Edison kid, there was some picture taking involved before the bear attacked.
 
As I recall, with the Edison kid, there was some picture taking involved before the bear attacked.
Yes I believe he moved closer to get a better shot. Then decided it would be a good idea to back off. Too Late. The bear began charging and he decided to turn his back and run. Bad move. The kid basically did everything you could possibly do wrong.
 
Will not work. Out here in Warren County, bears go into peoples' garbage to get to dirty diapers.
Depending on what I've been eating, I'm pretty sure that bear is puke out if he encounters my loaded shorts, I've got paint peeling in my bathroom right now[poop]
 
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a .357 magnum will penatrate a black bears skull, maybe a .38 special but not sure.
I'd carry a .357 at a minimum, but I'd prefer a .44 mag or larger. Definitely not a .38, they've failed on human targets, I'm certainly not relying on a .38 against a bear.
 
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Black Bear's are far more aggressive in Canada. I once watched a North American Wildlife show where a large Black Bear (400lbs) fought and bullied a female cougar off a kill. In Tennessee hunters have witnessed them killing deer, fawn and on occasion wild boar. A good rule of thumb is if a predator can catch and take down an adult white tail deer it can kill a human. Two years ago towards the end of April my girlfriend and I went for a very long walk on the Raritan Canal when I saw a Bald Eagle flying above us. It was definitely mature because it had a white head. It was flying about 2 maybe 3 hundred yards above us. Out of no where it flies down inside of a 100 yards and it looked profoundly bigger. All it did was perch itself on a tall tree but I must admit I began to panic a bit.
 
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Yes I believe he moved closer to get a better shot. Then decided it would be a good idea to back off. Too Late. The bear began charging and he decided to turn his back and run. Bad move. The kid basically did everything you could possibly do wrong.
That whole scenario stuck in the back of my mind and probably helped me this summer during my close encounter with a black bear. This did not happen when I was busting through the brush while hunting or walking through the woods getting to a fishing spot or hiking along a trail. It happened after dinner on July 30th while I was taking our dog for a walk down the sidewalk in our town. A passing motorist stopped and told me a bear was over on the next street where our junior high school & library are located. After he left, I thought for a few seconds that it would be prudent to walk back to the house since I was just a week past surgery and the dog was just given her heartworm preventive pill. I didn't get turned all the way around when a bear appeared over my right shoulder on the top slope of my neighbor's lawn which sharply drops four feet to the sidewalk. I tell people it was at a distance of 10 or 12 feet, but it could have been 8 feet. I was so close that all I could notice of the bear was a big head, two round ears and two big black eyes. Our eyes were locked for a split second or maybe a couple of seconds and there was just a sense of acknowledging the presence of each other. It was a look of calm from the bear. I instinctively moved a few steps closer toward my house and when we cleared the front of the pickup truck parked at the curb, the bear walked behind it. With knowledge of the unfortunate outcome for the RU student, I also knew one halfhearted hop from the bear would have put him right on top of me & the dog. Starting to move away gave the bear room to move.
 
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The Bear hunt is a farce. It does very little to control the population. The only way to control the population is by killing sows. But most hunters want trophy kills. You know the 300 to 400 pound black bear. There is nothing macho about killing a 150lbs Sow that almost resembles a Labrador Retriever . Fish and Wildlife scientists having been saying for a long time that a sub adult male bear can impregnate 20 to 30 sows. But a single sow when in heat can have sex with 20 or 30 boars and only get pregnant once. One last point, fish and wildlife management teams have witnessed a 400lb black bear taking down a full grown white tail deer and eating them. In North west NJ you have some black bear that tip the scale at 500lbs. These same bears can kill any human with relative ease.

Male bears? That sounds more like ruhudson's bud Will Hill when he was at Florida.
 
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That whole scenario stuck in the back of my mind and probably helped me this summer during my close encounter with a black bear. This did not happen when I was busting through the brush while hunting or walking through the woods getting to a fishing spot or hiking along a trail. It happened after dinner on July 30th while I was taking our dog for a walk down the sidewalk in our town. A passing motorist stopped and told me a bear was over on the next street where our junior high school & library are located. After he left, I thought for a few seconds that it would be prudent to walk back to the house since I was just a week past surgery and the dog was just given her heartworm preventive pill. I didn't get turned all the way around when a bear appeared over my right shoulder on the top slope of my neighbor's lawn which sharply drops four feet to the sidewalk. I tell people it was at a distance of 10 or 12 feet, but it could have been 8 feet. I was so close that all I could notice of the bear was a big head, two round ears and two big black eyes. Our eyes were locked for a split second or maybe a couple of seconds and there was just a sense of acknowledging the presence of each other. It was a look of calm from the bear. I instinctively moved a few steps closer toward my house and when we cleared the front of the pickup truck parked at the curb, the bear walked behind it. With knowledge of the unfortunate outcome for the RU student, I also knew one halfhearted hop from the bear would have put him right on top of me & the dog. Starting to move away gave the bear room to move.
Wow thanks for sharing this story. How you remained calm is beyond me and have the know how to move slowly away. I probably would have been with Valkabit froze with fear and shit my pants. LOL
 
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