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wow I knew when I saw the title of this thread there would be a ton of ill will and dimbulb-ery posted. Surprisingly, NJ is actually listed as a top 5 bicycle friendly state, which I as a cyclist for over 55 years cant fathom how anyone would rank NJ as even vaguely bicycle friendly as there is very little cycle friendly infrastructure.

When I was at RU I cycled everywhere often logging in 100mi a week cycling and another 70mi a week running. I am 65 and to this day (swim a mile 3x a week and) cycle 10mi a day on average.....but I would never attempt cycling that much in NJ with all the stressed out ill tempered beer bellies driving like maniacs on the roads that hate cyclists(certainly seems so from what ive read posted above)........
 
jiggscasey said:
Wow. Your insecurity is astounding.
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me thinks you are the insecure one just because i called bicyclists sissies (not even knowing you rode one).. yet you get all defensive.. grow some thicker skin pops
 
mildone said:
When I'm on my bike, bikes should have the right of way and everybody, including other bikes, should get the F out of my way. When I'm driving a car, cars should have the right of way and everybody, including other cars, should get the F out of my way. Simple.
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This is a very easy to Understand, and is already the motto of every driver and bicyclist in Urban areas, hence the bitching on this thread.
 
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RutgersRaRa said:
I go back and forth on this issue. When I'm on my bike, I can't stand cars. When I'm in my car, I can't stand bicyclists. Mostly can't stand their outfits.
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I'd like to see some of your young tailgate guests in those outfits. I'm just saying.
 
R1776U said:
bicycles are for sissies..[/QUOTEWhen I started to push 70 years old several years ago, I took up bicycle riding. because I could no longer play football, basketball, jogging, etc. I find the bicyle riding
to be much easier on the (old) body. So I would appreciate it if you could amend your remark to sissies AND old people.:smiley: and by the way I spend alot of time cusing drivers who use the shoulders to pass cars. when they are coming out of a curve and don't see the bike.
So as a rider I have two words to the OP, and they are not happy birthday.:angry:
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RutgersRaRa said:
I go back and forth on this issue. When I'm on my bike, I can't stand cars. When I'm in my car, I can't stand bicyclists. Mostly can't stand their outfits.
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Some Pet Peeves:

Since you are not getting paid, why do people feel the need to bicycle with shirts with 35 advertisements on them?

I have to admit my days of wearing tight spandex bike shorts and shirts have passed me by and I dress appropriately. Some other people who need to have not seemed to come to this realization yet and continue to wear speedo like shorts and tight shirts when they are a tad overweight.

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JPhoboken said:
Some Pet Peeves:

Since you are not getting paid, why do people feel the need to bicycle with shirts with 35 advertisements on them?

I have to admit my days of wearing tight spandex bike shorts and shirts have passed me by and I dress appropriately. Some other people who need to have not seemed to come to this realization yet and continue to wear speedo like shorts and tight shirts when they are a tad overweight.

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I don't know why people, cyclist or not wear any advertisements if they aren't being paid to advertise or rewarded. I don't advertise for free. If you see me wearing a logo it is because I am invested in that brand somehow.

I have one cycling jersey that I only wear occasionally. It has one logo on it for National Geographic. I worked there and the CEO gave them as a present to any employee who did at least 6. I was paid for my work and having that name on my resume has opened many doors for me.
 
Ole Cabbagehead said:
It's amazing that the OP felt the need to post such an overtly selfish rant. Truly the downside of anonymity. If people had to include their names, we wouldn't have to wade through half the crap that's posted on here.
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I agree that bicyclist are menace on the roads. They are almost as bad as motorcyclists. Neither one of them follow and rules of the road. Bicyclist love to roll throw stop signs and traffic lights, ride in between lines and cars and generally feel that they can do anything they want. Dude the roads were built for cars not bike, stay on the sidewalks, bike lanes or off the streets. Ride on the shoulder if you must, but since I can't drive on the sidewalks you stay the hell out of traffic.

And for you old cabbage head my name is Russell Tully and I approve this message.
 
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ru109 said:
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I agree that bicyclist are menace on the roads. They are almost as bad as motorcyclists. Neither one of them follow and rules of the road. Bicyclist love to roll throw stop signs and traffic lights, ride in between lines and cars and generally feel that they can do anything they want. Dude the roads were built for cars not bike, stay on the sidewalks, bike lanes or off the streets. Ride on the shoulder if you must, but since I can't drive on the sidewalks you stay the hell out of traffic.

And for you old cabbage head my name is Russell Tully and I approve this message.
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The roads were actually built for bikes first. New Jersey was the first state to use state funds to build roars in 1893. This was a result of lobbying by a group of cyclists called the League of American Wheelmen. Sidewalks are for walking.
 
ru109 said:
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I agree that bicyclist are menace on the roads. They are almost as bad as motorcyclists. Neither one of them follow and rules of the road. Bicyclist love to roll throw stop signs and traffic lights, ride in between lines and cars and generally feel that they can do anything they want. Dude the roads were built for cars not bike, stay on the sidewalks, bike lanes or off the streets. Ride on the shoulder if you must, but since I can't drive on the sidewalks you stay the hell out of traffic.

And for you old cabbage head my name is Russell Tully and I approve this message.
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And all car drivers are courteous and follow the rules of the road? Seriously?

Again, both sides need to be courteous and show respect for each other and follow the rules.
 
JPhoboken said:
And all car drivers are courteous and follow the rules of the road? Seriously?

Again, both sides need to be courteous and show respect for each other and follow the rules.
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True.


But boring.


I, for one, would like to see the us weaponize the situation. Give guns and grenades and so forth to all drivers and cyclists and let them have at it. This could make for great fun and also address the overpopulation problem.
 
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Well just back from my bike ride and this thread is still going! Here's how I see it:

Bicyclist: why did you run me off the road?
OP: what do you mean?
Bicyclist: I didn't think you played like that!
OP: Ahhh BULL$&@!

OP the goes home, puts his feet up on the porch cracks open a JoePa Lager and says I wish these damn bikers would stay the hell off my lawn and the road. They're all a bunch of sissies anyway dressed in their Halloween outfits. The bicyclist makes his way home too but of course since he was run ff the road his chain was weakened and snaps and he has to walk his bike in an unsafe way across multiple intersections while staring at his smartphone trying to text his wife to pick him up.
 
mildone said:
True.


But boring.


I, for one, would like to see the us weaponize the situation. Give guns and grenades and so forth to all drivers and cyclists and let them have at it. This could make for great fun and also address the overpopulation problem.
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There is a bill sitting on Obama's desk that would allow Stinger Missiles to be mounted on Bicycles and Cars, but he won't sign it unless 18 Wheel truckers are included. "We need to be fair to all americans, and that includes truckers." The bill includes money for a Bridge in Alaska, as well as a 25 million dollar grant to Rutgers University for testing before issuing the weapons to the general public.
 
JPhoboken said:
There is a bill sitting on Obama's desk that would allow Stinger Missiles to be mounted on Bicycles and Cars, but he won't sign it unless 18 Wheel truckers are included. "We need to be fair to all americans, and that includes truckers." The bill includes money for a Bridge in Alaska, as well as a 25 million dollar grant to Rutgers University for testing before issuing the weapons to the general public.
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If the 25MM grant is dedicated to RUFB, then sign that thing quick. There can be no other priorities dammit! LOL
 
Ole Cabbagehead said:
It's amazing that the OP felt the need to post such an overtly selfish rant. Truly the downside of anonymity. If people had to include their names, we wouldn't have to wade through half the crap that's posted on here.
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Really then why don't you post your name and address and lead by example.
 
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Rather than just ripping me. Can someone please logically explain why a non motorized bike should be allowed on a road with a 35mph sl or over.
 
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Myrtleknight said:
Rather than just ripping me. Can someone please logically explain why a non motorized bike should be allowed on a road with a 35mph sl or over.
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Because maybe some folks like to get exercise and ride on roads that are 35 mph or over? I ride about 2 miles on a county road to get to an awesome mountain biking trail. You want me to stop?

Or maybe some folks can't afford a car and only have a bike for transportation?

Or maybe some folks don't have a driver's license and must ride a bike for transportation?

Can you explain what your basic problem is with bikes? Maybe some folks need to slow down and show a little patience and compassion for others instead of blowing down the road in their oversized SUV to get their latte.
 
Most bicyclists will avoid roads with speed limits over 35 mph when they can, especially if there is no shoulder and the road is narrow but as noted sometimes it's not possible depending on destination, etc. I think the bicyclists need to be aware of where they are riding and make sure that they are not holding up traffic by riding in travel lanes (that annoys me too when I am driving), riding safely with traffic on the side of the road and on the flip side drivers need to do the same with regard to courtesy. Part of the problem is drivers on 35 mph roads thinking they are Mario Andretti and have to fly by at 50 or 60 mph - used to happen on my road all the time until they lowered the speed limit to 25 mph. Still happens but a bit less frequently.
 
This situation would be easily resolved if 1) Bicyclists tried driving a car to see how hard it is to pay attention while changing the song selection, eating lunch, and texting, and 2) Drivers tried riding a bike to see what it's like wearing Skittle outfits and expecting others to take them seriously.
 
Knight Shift said:
Because maybe some folks like to get exercise and ride on roads that are 35 mph or over? I ride about 2 miles on a county road to get to an awesome mountain biking trail. You want me to stop?

Or maybe some folks can't afford a car and only have a bike for transportation?

Or maybe some folks don't have a driver's license and must ride a bike for transportation?

Can you explain what your basic problem is with bikes? Maybe some folks need to slow down and show a little patience and compassion for others instead of blowing down the road in their oversized SUV to get their latte.
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My basic problem with bikes are that they cause dangerous situations for other people by simply riding on roads where they can not keep pace with traffic and there is no bike lane.

Your arguments are that people must conform to your hobby.

Or for people who can't afford a car or do not have a drives license. Guess what, we aren't talking about those people, we are talking about you and your buddies with $800 bikes.

Still not a logical argument.
 
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I'm still trying to figure out what the OP's problem is. Most roads posted at 35 mph or higher are more than wide enough to accommodate a bicycle and a vehicle. I drive fire apparatus on such roads and pass bicyclists without problems, and they are a lot wider than soccer mom SUVs.

And I'll bet R1776U could not make it up a hill on his bicycle without getting gassed.
 
Myrtleknight said:
Rather than just ripping me. Can someone please logically explain why a non motorized bike should be allowed on a road with a 35mph sl or over.
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Because the many miles of paved bike paths are crowded and dangerous.
 
"This problem calls for some good old fasioned coal rollin. Screw the Priuses for now."

^^^Enjoy while you can someday there will be a video of this d -bag doing this and he will be going to jail for a long time.
 
The bad behavior goes both ways, as many have mentioned. The difference seems to be the consequences. When drivers take out their frustration on cyclists on the road, it can be deadly. Over the years, I've been pinned to a row of parked cars by a Bergenline jitney driver and run off the road by two guys in a jeep who thought it was funny. Luckily I wasn't seriously injured in either of these instances (fractured arm the second time), but the disregard for life demonstrated by these drivers who seemed to want to hurt or kill someone is frightening.

Regarding sidewalks, they are for walking. When I'm riding my bike, I'm going 10, 20, sometimes over 30 miles per hour depending on the grade. That's closer to vehicle speed on most streets than it is to walking speed. At 20+mph a cyclist could kill a child who rounds the corner on the sidewalk. On the street, at worst I'm annoying a driver for 100-200 feet until he can pass me.
 
There are tons of really bad drivers on the road today making bike riding dangerous. Bikers almost need to ride in the middle of the road to force the car behind them to slow down and follow the traffic rules.
 
Case in point. We rode our bikes to the park a 1/2 mile away. 4 Way stop intersection. We stopped. Someone came to the intersection after us, and as we proceeded through, we almost got taken out. Average suburban drivers are in too much of a hurry to go nowhere fast and are distracted with their mobile phones.
 
The other day I almost hit a guy on his bike who was screaming down the sidewalk on the wrong side of the road. I was making a right turn, all clear to my left and as I start turning right this a-hole comes whizzing in front of me against the flow of traffic. I stop short to avoid killing his dumb ass and he turns and flips me off as he goes by.
 
I ride a bike maybe once a week during the summer......first off, do not suggest bikers ride on the sidewalk, a bike is considered a moving vehicle just like a car, must follow the same rules..

I find if I keep far to the right, observe all road rules with red lights, stop signs, use hand signals when turning right, etc....I do not have a problem

I do not try to ride out in the middle of the road as if a car....in my area you just keep near the shoulder and you are just fine....many roads, like grove st in Montclair, have plenty of room for both cars and bikes....many bike along that road
 
wheezer said:
I ride a bike maybe once a week during the summer......first off, do not suggest bikers ride on the sidewalk, a bike is considered a moving vehicle just like a car, must follow the same rules..

I find if I keep far to the right, observe all road rules with red lights, stop signs, use hand signals when turning right, etc....I do not have a problem

I do not try to ride out in the middle of the road as if a car....in my area you just keep near the shoulder and you are just fine....many roads, like grove st in Montclair, have plenty of room for both cars and bikes....many bike along that road
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http://njbikeped.org/whats-the-law-...-new-jersey-bicycle-and-pedestrian-laws-2012/

Bike are not outlawed on sidewalks.
 
ru109 said:
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http://njbikeped.org/whats-the-law-...-new-jersey-bicycle-and-pedestrian-laws-2012/

Bike are not outlawed on sidewalks.
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thanks, looks like they frown upon it and recommend you do not.....in fact I would wager it would be totally against the law if it were not for little children having to ride on a sidewalk, to keep them safer till they got older......but the explanation of the law clearly indicates an adult should not ride the sidewalk more as a common sense thing
 
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Myrtleknight said:
Rather than just ripping me. Can someone please logically explain why a non motorized bike should be allowed on a road with a 35mph sl or over.
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"Speed limit." As in the fastest you can travel by law. Not the slowest. Another great logical point from the anti bicycle crowd.

Where low speed is actually considered a danger like on the interstates, bicycling is illegal. Danger, in this case, is not synonymous with delaying your donut run by 30 seconds while you wait for a safe place to pass a cyclist.

Your entire argument is coming from the wrong place. Your wrongly assume that roads exist for cars, and that bicycles get in the way of cars so they should be prohibited. You are exactly wrong. Roads are built by the government for people to get from place to place. I have as much right to use it to walk or ride as you do to drive.
 
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Knight Shift said:
I'm still trying to figure out what the OP's problem is. Most roads posted at 35 mph or higher are more than wide enough to accommodate a bicycle and a vehicle. I drive fire apparatus on such roads and pass bicyclists without problems, and they are a lot wider than soccer mom SUVs.

And I'll bet R1776U could not make it up a hill on his bicycle without getting gassed.
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done that many times.. when i was 14-17 and plenty gassed up if ya catch my drift... then i got this piece of plastic called a drivers license.. so yea.. i win, you lose

NEXT!
 
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