OT- Column- Schiano and USF
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I don't care what you think of Schiano, he's above that job, on resume alone.
I think that he has to put in another year as a DC. Maybe two. I'm not sure that he's "current enough" to get a P5 coaching position based on his resume (i.e. that he did a very good job at RU five to ten years ago).
Look at the news today: Lane Kiffin is a front-runner for the Houston HC job. Kiffin has been a HC in the NFL, along with HC positions at multiple P5 schools (and, obviously, the OC at 'Bama).
Unless you're successful right now - this season - as a HC somewhere, I don't think getting a HC gig at a P5 (just because you're a successful DC at tOSU) is gauranteed.
Look at the news today: Lane Kiffin is a front-runner for the Houston HC job. Kiffin has been a HC in the NFL, along with HC positions at multiple P5 schools (and, obviously, the OC at 'Bama).
Unless you're successful right now - this season - as a HC somewhere, I don't think getting a HC gig at a P5 (just because you're a successful DC at tOSU) is gauranteed.
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Not sure about that. Butch Davis is @ FIU. Granted there is some baggage, but resume is far superior and USF is probably a better job.
Just a hunch - but - there might be something about USF that has an appeal for Schiano - Based on his RU tenure, and the way he talks - he seems to like to shape the 'culture' / the "look and feel" of the institution ... USF is growing by leaps and bounds - and still has a vast number of ways in which it can grow & define itself - Schiano seems to enjoy being in the midst of that stuff - maybe it is a bit of that 'all powerful' role that he saw Paterno holding
Also from what I've read and what's been said here over the years, Greg is going to want to call all the shots and almost be above the AD like he was at RU. Is that going to happen at a B1G or ACC school? Oregon? I'd think he has a better chance of being the guy at a school like USF.
Being DC at OSU another year isn't going to hurt his resume, picking the wrong job could. I have no problem seeing him waiting if he isn't 100% sure he can succeed elsewhere.
Charlie Strong is the right guy for USF, or whenever FGCU decides to field a team in football talent-rich southwest Florida.
some may depend on Schiano's aspirations. Does he want to be one of the top 10 coaches at 1 of the top 20 programs? Or is he happy working at a mid-major program where he may have a lower bar for success. If he is at Oregon he will be expected to compete for the Rose Bowl each year. At USF he probably needs to do what Boise did in the Mtn West
I'm not a Greg guy, but I can see a path to a top bowl game at USF being much easier than at other conferences/programs. That's what's in it for Greg.
But USF will want to make a splash with this coaching hire. And the Tampa area fans opinions of Greg from his recent Tampa Bay Bucs days range from dislike to outright hostility. My money says that USF will not hire Greg Schiano based on his experience with the Bucs.
I now live in the Tampa area and can say that I have never heard a good word said about him by anyone I have ever talked to down here who is a fan of USF, UF, FSU or Miami.
My opinion is that USF will hire anyone except Greg.
But USF will want to make a splash with this coaching hire. And the Tampa area fans opinions of Greg from his recent Tampa Bay Bucs days range from dislike to outright hostility. My money says that USF will not hire Greg Schiano based on his experience with the Bucs.
I now live in the Tampa area and can say that I have never heard a good word said about him by anyone I have ever talked to down here who is a fan of USF, UF, FSU or Miami.
My opinion is that USF will hire anyone except Greg.
Looks like Strong to USF might be a done deal per Florida Football Insiders.
Agreed with this.
Greg's likeability right now is pretty high everywhere but Tampa.
It would be a great get by USF.
But I wonder why Strong would settle so quickly on USF. If he waited he could get a good p5 job either this year or next.
Too bad Texas didn't fire him a year ago...
Is that really so different from any P5 head coach? Seems to me Ash is kinda calling a lot of the shots as well.
I think people were so surprised to land a head coach with aspirations they forgot that 99% of successful head coaches have aspirations and egos too. Greg is hardly alone in that...
I was standing on line at Publix wearing a block R shirt. The customer service manager said he went to the same high school as Janarion. He tells me that if USF hires Schiano, they will have less fans at games then they do currently. He said I quote "people in Tampa hate Schiano. "
News reports say Charlie Strong is in final negotiations.He has a great rep in Florida.
Greg was oil in water here.
This Lane Kiffen
The rise and fall of Lane Kiffin's coaching career, in 11 steps - SB Nation
www.sbnation.com/college.../lane-kiffin-fired-coaching-timeline-usc-tennessee-raiders
FIU is in Miami USF is in Tampa. He already has the recruiting ties in that area. I am looking for Big things from FIU.
Who can forget Greg's popularity with fans in the Tampa area ?
http://media.fyre.co/Hk12CDcOQ4WnQm1wP80b_nfl_e_schiano_300x300.jpg
http://media.fyre.co/Hk12CDcOQ4WnQm1wP80b_nfl_e_schiano_300x300.jpg
looks like odds are good for Strong to USF
and now Luke Fickell seems to be about to become HC at Cincinnati
Houston is not set - but GS has not been mentioned at all there
what else is there that might be a realistic move? - certainty not FAU, San Jose State, Temple, Western Kentucky
So not likely the GS will make any moves - and hey .. maybe that now is the best option - and in terms of putting himself on display - with Fickell gone - GS would get more of the spotlight at OSU
- and there will always be openings next year
- will add that there is probably at least one other 'good' spot that will open up - absolutely zero inside knowledge here - just that there is always one or two late openings for whatever reason (coach goes to NFL - coach has issue - or some WTF / whatever reason)
and now Luke Fickell seems to be about to become HC at Cincinnati
Houston is not set - but GS has not been mentioned at all there
what else is there that might be a realistic move? - certainty not FAU, San Jose State, Temple, Western Kentucky
So not likely the GS will make any moves - and hey .. maybe that now is the best option - and in terms of putting himself on display - with Fickell gone - GS would get more of the spotlight at OSU
- and there will always be openings next year
- will add that there is probably at least one other 'good' spot that will open up - absolutely zero inside knowledge here - just that there is always one or two late openings for whatever reason (coach goes to NFL - coach has issue - or some WTF / whatever reason)
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? how so?
He coached at Rutgers, never won the conference title, never took the school to a BCS bowl, beat up on losing record and mid major teams, has a horrible reputation for micromanaging and failed miserably at the only NFL gig he was given.
I believe I recently read that Greg interviewed for the Oregon job. Wouldn't that mean that Urban is willing to let him take a HC job after this season ?
I'm not surprised. You have to ask yourself, what does he bring to the table that a top program wants?
This may have been the article.
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2016/12/post_96.html
I wonder if that might have anything to do with all the beat-downs USF suffered by Schiano coached Rutgers teams. It would be ironic. I remember leaving Tampa Bay stadium after one such beat down and a disgruntled USF fan saying "yea but you're still Rutgers". Look where we are and where they are today, mid-major vs Power 5 LOL.
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Meyer hired him for a coordinator position. Not even remotely close to the same thing -- and I think Schiano is primed for another head coaching gig. But I can see reasons for caution.
If he didn't respect him as a top defensive coordinator, Meyer wouldn't have hired him. Rutgers became a respected program under Schiano's leadership going to and winning bowls annually. His recruiting got better all the time and it shows with all the players he put in the NFL. He'll make a good head coach wherever he goes and let's hope it's to a school like USF or to the west coast so his recruiting won't hurt us.
Schiano wants to compete for the Rose Bowl every year. He's not in this for "relative success;" he's in it for world domination.
You just said it, UM respects him as a top defensive coordinator. I am sure Schiano could land a DC job anywhere in the country.
Greg is going to realize that he most likely needs another year at OSU and or take his next HC job at a lower level P5 or a high level G5. He needs to look at a 5 year plan if he wants to get to the top of the heap. A USF, Temple type of HC job is exactly what he needs.
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