Moz I think you are going to be surprised that what some suspect at a regrouping or revitalization if cities... unless a “ new “ government rebuilds all those cities with other people’s money ( taxes) it will be difficult ... I remember NYC during David Dinkins and Ed ( How ‘ m I Doing? ) Koch... dirty , filthy , unsafe and it did keep people away for it’s seediness... It took Newark and Detroit 35-40 years to begin the transitions back... today with the things going on ... it will be much different.
caught in what? 45k is more affordable than 60k.
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And when their office opens back up how will they continue to live in those cities while making NYC salary?
Cal Berkeley tuition and board is $69k a year. With foreign students being pushed out of the United State, the universities will need to come up with some real scheme to keep school affordable for US students. The loss of revenue will be from $200-400 million per school since many school have 12-18% of international students. College will not be the same in the near future. This can all change with the November election. It might be easier to get into the school with 12% more opening but the price might be $100k a year.
By the way look at median home values of NJ cities:
No matter how many times you want to talk about certain small NJ vs the NYC area and large cities (the topic of the thread) I am going to continue to ignore you.
JC and Newark are huge Areas and there are nice areas and not so nice. When you compare with towns, the majority of houses in town are in the same price range.
I know why you refuse to talk about NJ (since it's a no win conversation for you). So let's end this with.....let's see what happens. There is a lot of signs that people and companies will be leaving urban centers in NJ and the entire country for the reasons previously discussed. Time will tell.
The data shows that there are many more "not so nice" areas compared to "nice" areas in NJ cities. Agreed?
True, but I drove thru Newark recently and I’m amazed at the residential construction going up around downtown and around Rutgers Newark. However, they didn’t anticipate the coronavirus when they started construction. I hope they survive the virus.
There will be a ton of delayed/abandoned construction throughout the state. I bet NJ cities will be hit the hardest.
No doubt, but for the people who live in those areas... The infrastructure taken to support their living there is not nearly paid for by the people or activities in those areas.
Ease of commute is one of my major factors so I've always stayed in or as close as possible to big city. Thats the life i know and the work i do/daily life is all based in those major spots and not available in suburbs.
My boss just moved to LA from NYC (for work reasons) and so now I'm in this exact boat-----i can move to LA or stay here and switch jobs within the office. Oddly the WFH situation thankfully has given me til the end of the year/early next to figure out if i want to live out there (looking at MarinaDelRey or something Westside since new office would be Ivy Station/Culver City).
He better not be saying "rural" and meaning every non-urban situation. The rural communities will not be paying enough to rebuild cities.. it will be up to the taxpayers in the 'burbs.. just like they have been taxed to support the failed cities they fled 50 years ago.
You do realize a place like NYC subsidizes the rest of the state, and not the other way around. And NY state as whole subsidizes other states so, in no way are suburbs paying for NYC, at any level.
out west is a different animal. the cities there seem to be built around expansion of borders. first it was to capture water rights.. and later for expanding tax base. if those cities aren't growing their borders then they are dying. They used the Phoenix area as an example because that expansions thing was a big issue there.. none of the municipalities wanted to get hemmed in by another. They agreed. reluctantly, on some weird thin corridor-type borders to allow further expansion. None of them wanted to be a "Metuchen" to Phoenix's "Edison".
You should look at cities around the country that have grown as people moved there. Highly suggest doing such.
From the folks I've talked to, it's not the protesting. It's the being in lockdown in a 650sq ft apartment that made them realize that having space is nice.
Thats part of it but the riots are what broke the camels back. Trust me im talking to these people daily. Nyc is a toxic wasteland right now and people are letting their wallets speak
Like NYC is about the ONLY example you could use... and if you took away the commuter tax.. what would it then be? I bet they are working out language to tax telecommuters right now.
Yeah, because the big cities in CA and TX aren't the exactly same.
Offices can reconfigure, apartments can't. That's why people will still be willing to work in the city, but won't want to live there.
