They nailed it in some places way off in others. Like the government they keep moving the needle and always start with the worst case scenario. I was in the 12 to 18 area 3 days out. Got 4/5.
Overall snow forecasts have been awful the past 5 years.
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Overall snow forecasts have been awful the past 5 years.
I'd ask where this occurred but would rather not tangent off any further.
Are we better off with forecasting or not? Should we just stop forecasting and let people deal with what comes on their own like the old days? Stop the hurricane forecasting etc and let people on the coast just deal?
I don’t get the vitriol for inexact science based upon a number of vacillating factors in an attempt to warn and inform people. Do I think news channels exaggerate risk particularly with over the top colorful language. Yes, I can’t stand it. But I am appreciative of the advances in science that allow us to better prepare and they are mostly right. Are we bickering over one town getting 2 when they projected 5? Come one man, think about the big picture.
In your opinion he ‘s doing great in many other’s opinions not in the HOF... anyone who goes along with the WHO loses all credibility.
And to your point, the inexact point in the case of weather forecasting is literally predicting the future. Predicting the future is a tough business. The weather guys are pretty good. But again, we are tangenting here.
As a guy who sits around my house and comments on rutgers football board, I'm also of the opinion that the WHO has not looked good in this.
But I'm not agreeing that Fauci loses all credibility for not denouncing them.
You missed the big picture. This isn't about snow. It about mistrust. Over and over we have been told one thing by the government and we find out we have been mislead. Same with most forecasts. Big picture!
it must be a difficult state of existence to be so mistrustful of everything. I choose to be discerning versus mistrustful.
But isn't it perspective. Even if they were off in your specific area, do you not realize they did very will with the storm?
Same with Fauci, and we can again go back to that early video. Does he say he does not foresee us all walking around in masks? Yes. Does he also say masks are important, and that the reason he doesn't want us all in masks at that time is because he believes frontline workers need those masks?
If we want to find instances where someone is wrong, you will be able to find it for everyone, no one is perfect, but the big picture? I for one think Fauci has been great.
I thought Joe Judge should have ran the ball a few times at the end of the first half yesterday so as not to allow Baltimore plenty of time to drive down the field, but I still think he has done a great job this year.
Similar with Schiano in year 1 of his 2nd term. Were there mistakes, absolutely, was the overall job done very good? Also absolutely.
But anyways back to covid.
Similar with Schiano in year 1 of his 2nd term. Were there mistakes, absolutely, was the overall job done very good? Also absolutely.
But anyways back to covid.
Ummm being distrustful leads people to be discerning. You either believe everything you're told or you figure it out yourself. I'll figure it out myself. I too am very discerning.
Meh, I think there is a difference. Mistrust comes from believing everyone is lying and has some negative motive. You immediately start from a negative point of view. I don’t believe that about the government. Lots to question and lots of problems but there are good and bad things, I don’t start from a negative position. But anyway, back to covid.
After early success, S. Korea sleepwalks into virus crisis
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea had seemed to be winning the fight against the coronavirus: Quickly ramping up its testing, contact-tracing and quarantine efforts paid off when it weathered an early outbreak without the economic pain of a lockdown.
apnews.com
lets also note that the testing per million is incredibly small as well
Healthcare workers had little PPE
Public had zero PPE
Telling public "masks don't work" so that they wouldn't buy any masks that weren't even available is a bizarre excuse the CDC made . People in authority failed to ensure US had stores of PPE. To deflect from that they made excuses by minimizing the need for masks. They said public doesn't need them and only certain MDs/staff in close contact needed masks.
This got more bizzare when staff and doctors brought their own mask in and then were told they couldn't wear them because CDC said they didn't need them. However staff and the public soon figured out they needed masks no matter what CDC said, and then CDC changed its advice to confirm what the people had figured out on their own. Then CDC said it was ok to wear homemade masks when a lot of those are garbage. But states made the things mandatory anyway (even after they killed off seniors mismanaging them).
CDC was also telling people virus was only caught via droplets but then said it was airborne - which is what Chinese researchers said in January
You don't want to blindly trust bureaucracies in an emergency because its often a mistake.
Doctors Say Hospitals Are Stopping Them From Wearing Masks
"Many doctors, nurses and other hospital workers say they don't feel protected and are afraid in the midst of a shortage of masks and other protective gear. Some are bringing their own supplies... Meanwhile, some hospitals are instituting strict policies that bar medical workers from bringing their own personal protective equipment, or PPE, to work, or limiting how much protection a person can wear because of a shortage in supplies...First, Buckalew (Dr) said she was told it was against hospital policy for health care workers to bring their own gear. Then, she said, administrators told her if she wore her own N95 mask, others would want to wear the masks as well and the hospital didn't have enough. Finally, Buckalew said, it was that CDC guidelines don't require the mask at all times.
The Coronavirus May Be Adrift in Indoor Air, C.D.C. Acknowledges
After removing guidance from its website acknowledging “airborne” transmission, the agency cited evidence that indoor air can carry virus-laden particles.
Two weeks after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention took down a statement about airborne transmission of the coronavirus, the agency on Monday replaced it with language citing new evidence that the virus can spread beyond six feet indoors.
“These transmissions occurred within enclosed spaces that had inadequate ventilation,” the new guidance said. “Sometimes the infected person was breathing heavily, for example while singing or exercising.”
The incident was only the latest in a series of slow and often puzzling scientific judgments by the C.D.C. and by the World Health Organization since the start of the pandemic. Despite evidence that use of face coverings can help cut down on viral spread, for example, the C.D.C. did not endorse their use by the public until April, and the W.H.O. did not do so till June."
The Coronavirus May Be Adrift in Indoor Air, C.D.C. Acknowledges (Published 2020)
After removing guidance from its website acknowledging “airborne” transmission, the agency cited evidence that indoor air can carry virus-laden particles.
CDC is an embarrassment and has been (progressively) since the 80s
So Dr. Fauci is it 70% or 90% now for us to reach herd immunity...Tik Tok.
So the reason cases are still sky high despite mask compliance everywhere you go in the US. is that people aren't wearing them at home too? Got it.
Not buying it.
Please don't compare the average obese United States person to a pencil thin person in Asia.
If masks worked then there wouldn't be chart after chart showing cases rising after these mask mandates in the US.
A cloth mask is not working, sorry. Neither is a medical mask meant for a sterile environment, not a gas station.
Healthcare workers had little PPE
Public had zero PPE
Telling public "masks don't work" so that they wouldn't buy any masks that weren't even available is a bizarre excuse the CDC made . People in authority failed to ensure US had stores of PPE. To deflect from that they made excuses by minimizing the need for masks. They said public doesn't need them and only certain MDs/staff in close contact needed masks.
This got more bizzare when staff and doctors brought their own mask in and then were told they couldn't wear them because CDC said they didn't need them. However staff and the public soon figured out they needed masks no matter what CDC said, and then CDC changed its advice to confirm what the people had figured out on their own. Then CDC said it was ok to wear homemade masks when a lot of those are garbage. But states made the things mandatory anyway (even after they killed off seniors mismanaging them).
CDC was also telling people virus was only caught via droplets but then said it was airborne - which is what Chinese researchers said in January
You don't want to blindly trust bureaucracies in an emergency because its often a mistake.
Doctors Say Hospitals Are Stopping Them From Wearing Masks
"Many doctors, nurses and other hospital workers say they don't feel protected and are afraid in the midst of a shortage of masks and other protective gear. Some are bringing their own supplies... Meanwhile, some hospitals are instituting strict policies that bar medical workers from bringing their own personal protective equipment, or PPE, to work, or limiting how much protection a person can wear because of a shortage in supplies...First, Buckalew (Dr) said she was told it was against hospital policy for health care workers to bring their own gear. Then, she said, administrators told her if she wore her own N95 mask, others would want to wear the masks as well and the hospital didn't have enough. Finally, Buckalew said, it was that CDC guidelines don't require the mask at all times.
The Coronavirus May Be Adrift in Indoor Air, C.D.C. Acknowledges
After removing guidance from its website acknowledging “airborne” transmission, the agency cited evidence that indoor air can carry virus-laden particles.
Two weeks after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention took down a statement about airborne transmission of the coronavirus, the agency on Monday replaced it with language citing new evidence that the virus can spread beyond six feet indoors.
“These transmissions occurred within enclosed spaces that had inadequate ventilation,” the new guidance said. “Sometimes the infected person was breathing heavily, for example while singing or exercising.”
The incident was only the latest in a series of slow and often puzzling scientific judgments by the C.D.C. and by the World Health Organization since the start of the pandemic. Despite evidence that use of face coverings can help cut down on viral spread, for example, the C.D.C. did not endorse their use by the public until April, and the W.H.O. did not do so till June."
The Coronavirus May Be Adrift in Indoor Air, C.D.C. Acknowledges (Published 2020)
After removing guidance from its website acknowledging “airborne” transmission, the agency cited evidence that indoor air can carry virus-laden particles.www.nytimes.com
CDC is an embarrassment and has been (progressively) since the 80s
Thank you for this post for bring facts
A few posters want to reinvent and revise history of what Fauci and cdc and who were saying
Wait till the Covid Passport is announced to get into store, concerts, sports events, movies, etc. You laugh.....
They have a response for every contradiction...the one they all settled on now is that its being spread at gatherings at home..wait so that wasnt happening before..oh
Show me where mask compliance is "everywhere you go" please. I can't even go to home depot in central NJ (where most people are pretty good) without seeing 25% of the customers AND STAFF with the mask off or below their nose. Forget about it in a red states where it is so much worse...
Did you see him squirming yesterday when cnn actually called him out on his contradiction and flip flop
I havent been in one store in NJ where masks werent worn
You have to wear them properly. Over the nose and mouth. I guarantee you that if you go to any big store RIGHT NOW you will see lots of exposed noses.
Which further makes my argument...the msm and fear mongers made everything about masks...over the top...its not the #1 precaution u can take but its been presented as giving you protection..for a number of reasons thats false
Its already been announced. Should be interesting how it’s used.
That's so ccp China, not American values
Why would a healthy person have to prove anything to anyone?
I don't remember anyone talking about that, ever, even during the Swine Flu pandemic
thats okay there are people in this thread that think we should have handled this just like Asian countries who have less freedoms than we do.
There are very few things that we can (and are willing to) control. Wearing masks is one of them. It's not NEARLY the #1 precaution we can take. That would be shutting borders and seriously locking down like New Zealand did. America can't/won't do that. So we can't/won't eradicate the virus like New Zealand was able to. Therefore we need to focus upon what we can do. Wearing masks proper is one thing we can do.
If masks "don't work", why have surgeons worn them since the dawn of germ theory? Should they not bother any more? Is that a change you would like to see?
If you said Walmart i might back you up. Home Depot?? Yeah no way. They have security in the front. Not Home Depot employees real outside security. Home Depot is still monitoring how many people in the store.
I used that example because I was at the one in South Plainfield today. So many exposed noses...
we are not wearing N95s
Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery
The use of surgical facemasks is ubiquitous in surgical practice. Facemasks have long been thought to confer protection to the patient from wound infection and contamination from the operating surgeon and other members of the surgical staff. More recently, ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I think wearing masks is beneficial. I wish we had a lockdown simliar to New Zealand (where life is pretty much back to normal). Please explain where my thinking is "cray".
Nevermind the big box store......I do Doordash for the winter and I can't tell you how many cooks, sandwich makers, cashiers show off their noses and some cooks have it all the way down ,....lol
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