OT: COVID Science - Pfizer/Moderna vaccines >90% effective; Regeneron antibody cocktail looks very promising in phase II/III trial and more
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And he explained why right in the video you posted.
But I thought people have moved on from March, obviously some have not.
There is now a study questioning asymptomatics
You still have not answered my question
Where are people getting covid from to spread it at home
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This is like the Fauci video, where some one says something pretty clearly, and you act like something else was said.
Numerous countries are currently not having an issue with Covid.
Except people watched the video in March not now so look through it with those lenses
Might make people feel better he said and block one droplet..his words
Fauci said dont wear masks...true
Redfeld said masks better than vaccine...true
Nj strict mask adherence had rise in cases...true
California cases surged amid lockdown and mask mandates...true
Dossier paid for.....true
Yeah lets not compare ourselves to countries that can actually contain the virus. Convenient.
Your problem is you focus on the one line that fits your agenda while ignoring the rest of the video which contradicts your agenda.
Actually the responses by many on here who defend masks, put people down when the topic comes up, never admit the limitation of masks. They just go to the guilt angle saying that you are an ass If you don't wear one everywhere.I don’t get the “if face masks worked, why are cases going up” logic.
Nobody said face masks are 100% effective. There are also so many other variables at play. Speaking in absolutes with something so complex is crazy.
That’s like saying seatbelts don’t work because people still get injured in car accidents.
Also, about breath in cold air, I saw this video the other week. Not sure if this is even a good or relevant experiment, but it does illustrate how your breath is muted.
Saskatoon Man Uses The Cold To Show How Effective Face Masks Can Be
The cold weather "was a perfect way to show how air moves with a mask both on and off."www.huffingtonpost.ca
I've said this many times and asked all of them this question. They all refused to answer. Would you choose to be standing next to someone with a mask 2 feet away or someone without a mask 10 feet away. They are all cowards to admit the limitations on mask. They rather tell everyone wear a mask and we stop the spread. Home grown internet scientists are killing people and getting people infected.
Wait so you wear a mask and follow protocols ...so we’re you around someone who was not wearing a mask... in a restaurant... shopping in a store... in a salon, barber shop, dentist office or around your family this why people question masks... but don’t blame me... I wear a mask except in my hone or driving...
I posted this the other day.
Experts send Vitamin D and Covid-19 open letter to world's governments
In an open letter being sent to world governments today (21st December), 120 health, science and medical experts from the UK, US, and Europe say there is clear scientific evidence that vitamin D reduces Covid-19 infections, hospitalisations, and deaths.
I have yet to be hit by any spit particles when talking to people with masks on. Hmmm, I wonder why.
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.www.cdc.gov
Efficacy of face masks, neck gaiters and face shields for reducing the expulsion of simulated cough-generated aerosols
Face masks are recommended to reduce community transmission of SARS-CoV-2. One of the primary benefits of face masks and other coverings is as source control devices to reduce the expulsion of respiratory aerosols during coughing, breathing, and speaking. Face shields and neck gaiters have been...www.medrxiv.org
Do you not understand how small a virus particle is? You think if someone spits on you that’s the only way to get it?
You sound like an NPC. Basically everything you claim is debunked is a lie. Good grief.
Don't the virus particles travel in the droplets? Don't think the virus is out flying through the air on it's own.
How do viruses spread from person to person? (webmd.com)
"Viruses spread from person to person mainly in droplets that fly out when you cough or sneeze. These tiny drops from a sick person move through the air and land on the mouths or noses of others nearby."
If it was private indoors gathering than why close bars, gyms, museums.... where it wasn't spreading??
Yup Pennsylvania waves hello too...see these guys keep contradicting themselves and dont like when they are called out
Im not a Covid denier at all and they think I am..they dont like questions asked thats for sure
I posted this the other day.
Experts send Vitamin D and Covid-19 open letter to world's governments
In an open letter being sent to world governments today (21st December), 120 health, science and medical experts from the UK, US, and Europe say there is clear scientific evidence that vitamin D reduces Covid-19 infections, hospitalisations, and deaths.www.nutraingredients.com
We need more of this from msm and dr fauci
Don’t think you understand how it works. Like RU05 mentioned, the virus travels on varying sizes of droplets. Cotton masks reduce the number of droplets spread, especially those droplets that are medium to large sized.
Yeah don't understand why he is going for a test because his friend had people over his house..weird?
They keep bringing up "science" yet they ignore the science of how ineffective masks are. They need to drop their mask hero status and make social distancing the focus.
He said it..an average American in March not playing politics would say he said masks arent worth it
Absolutely social distancing is the #1 effective precaution
I don't worry too much in my gym but cringe when some guy just has to work out next to me when there are other spaces away from me he can work out
Gyms may not be a spreadsource because we may find out asymptomatic spread isnt as great as believed
As I’ve said to you when you previously posed that question to me, I don’t think closing these places was warranted given the statistics. Try to remember this time, I’ll wait for your apology,
quite the opposite, actually. Each and every point I listed from his posts has been thoroughly debunked.
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I really think the people who don’t believe masks do anything just don’t understand how Covid spreads. Would explain a lot.
He's getting a test because he is showing symptoms.
The fact that people act like that is weird, or that don't understand how a person with Covid Symptoms having a maskless christmas party is a bad idea is why this thing continues to spread despite the restrictions.
People undermine the restrictions.
Correct. There is serious science behind why masks work. As I said the other night, I've actually written internal research reports on filtration of particulates (including pathogens) via various filters and filtration does not work by only size exclusion, as any chemical engineer should know. There are multiple factors involved, from size exclusion to tortuosity of the path to impact/capture on fibers to electrostatic attraction/capture of particles to particle-particle collisions leading to coalescence (larger particles that can them be more easily filtered) and more.
Below is a really cool animation showing some of these filtration/capture phenomena in masks that was in the Times recently. And below that is the link to the Politifact article that @RUfubar quoted above.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/30/science/wear-mask-covid-particles-ul.html
https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...p-covid-19-particles-due-to-size-is-nonsense/
Also, below is a link to my post from 5/21 on the mask/material virus filtration study and the graphic from that post, which is worth a look. And the 2nd link below is to my post on the very elegant study done with hamsters and cloth mask material partitioins, showing these materials provide modest protection for hamsters, which are a good model for respiratory viruses. The first post and graphic are all about the effectiveness of various mask materials as measured with actual virus particles (not COVID, but that shouldn't matter much). N95s are the best, of course, but surgical masks are pretty good and then there are the various cloth type masks, which are maybe 50% effective, but that's still a big improvement over nothing and, coupled with an infected person wearing a mask, can keep the uninfected person from becoming another statistic. They're certainly not perfect though, but way better than nothing.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...es-interventions-and-more.191275/post-4571736
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...es-interventions-and-more.191275/post-4570840
skoolie - I'm sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about. As per my post above, there's strong fundamental science around masks working to filter out virus-laden droplets (even very small ones and primary virus particles) and there's strong epidemiological evidence on a macro scale that masks work - every East Asian country that is doing so much better than the rest of the world has near 100% mask compliance and we're nowhere near that in the US/Europe, especially at indoor gatherings of family/friends, which is where much of the spreading goes on. You can go on line right now on FB/Instagram and see countless pix of family holiday gatherings without masks - it's so sad that these people have been convinced that masks don't work. Masks work, but not perfectly, but in conjunction with distancing can greatly reduce transmissions.
Be smart. Don't hold your breath. And dont demand an apology when one isn't warranted. Who the hell are you to want respect when you say the same crap over and over again and ignore the obvious.
And the average American thinks this because the very first thing he said was "masks are important"?
Not this average American.
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It certainly spread in bars. A bunch of maskless people hanging out in an indoor venue is without a doubt a spot for viral spread.
Gyms, and museums? Where the mask and keep them open.
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