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OT: Elder Millennials Unite!! Pop Punk nirvana is real!!

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Is this the Fyre Festival guys again?

And "elder millennials?" Who are you fooling.. that's prime GenXer stuff iirc. Millenials would have been listening to Barney the Purple Dinosaur during much of the prime of those bands... if alive at all.

oops.. I stand corrected.. one site says "Millenials" are born between 1981 and 1996... guess I never understood what Millenial meant.. I figured it would be, at best, born from 1990 to 2009
 
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Possibly the best festival in the history of our species has been announced.

When We Were Young 2023
https://www.whenwewereyoungfestival.com/


Blink 182
Green Day
Simple Plan
Sum 41
Good Charlotte
New Found Glory
Bowling For Soup
The Offspring
Lit
Yellowcard

And this is just the tip of the iceberg!
Take all of my money.
Literally all of it.
Did you hear Blink has a new song and Tom is joining for tour!!
 
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Is this the Fyre Festival guys again?

And "elder millennials?" Who are you fooling.. that's prime GenXer stuff iirc. Millenials would have been listening to Barney the Purple Dinosaur during much of the prime of those bands... if alive at all.

Gen Xers are grungers
 
Gen Xers are grungers
I added a correction to my post.. I misunderstood what they call "Millenial". I tied it to much to the actual Millenia... but if you think of these generation names.. starting with "Boomers".. it has little to do with the calendar years... more to do with cultural or population changes. I suppose the prime music years for a generation would be between, say, 15 to 25.. and if these bands were big in their primes from 1995 to 2005.. it fits the 1981-1996 born dates of what I see people claiming as "Millenial".
 
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Half that list is great, the other half not so much (born in 1989)

Many great "pop punk" bands from NJ: Saves The Day, Bouncing Souls (NB's own), Thursday (also NB), Senses Fail, The Early November...
 
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He’s not invited to the TKR VIP Cabana at the show.
My musical tastes evolved from hair metal to grunge to pop punk. That's when new music lost me and I just dove deeper into back catalogs and indie bands to look for my fix of new music. Loved 80's and 90's rap as well.
 
Possibly the best festival in the history of our species has been announced.

When We Were Young 2023
https://www.whenwewereyoungfestival.com/


Blink 182
Green Day
Simple Plan
Sum 41
Good Charlotte
New Found Glory
Bowling For Soup
The Offspring
Lit
Yellowcard

And this is just the tip of the iceberg!
Take all of my money.
Literally all of it.
Hmm. Is this for Old Millennials or Young Gen-X'ers? :)
 
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Why?
I have a hard time understanding why anyone would have such a strong negative opinion on any style of music

They took everything raw and real about punk and polished it down until it was smooth and lustrous enough to be consumed by the masses like a cheap souvenir ...representing a better time in music.

I'm not even that big of an old school punk fan, but I always assumed that pop punk is regarded by real punk fans much the way its contemporary nu metal is regarded by metal fans.
 
They took everything raw and real about punk and polished it down until it was smooth and lustrous enough to be consumed by the masses like a cheap souvenir ...representing a better time in music.

I'm not even that big of an old school punk fan, but I always assumed that pop punk is regarded by real punk fans much the way its contemporary nu metal is regarded by metal fans.

When is the Nu Metal Fest????
I've already seen Korn many times. Also seen Disturbed, Chevelle, Papa Roach, Linkin Park.

I'm a proud music #BasicBitch
 
The worst is when a song comes on with my 6yo and 5yo in the car.

I'm now the "you" in "I don't want to be just like you!"

It really comes full circle scary quickly. The grunge I liked isn't even the modern equivalent of the classic 70s rock that seemed ancient at that time. It's early 60s rock ...a time that was basically a history book.
 
When is the Nu Metal Fest????
I've already seen Korn many times. Also seen Disturbed, Chevelle, Papa Roach, Linkin Park.

I'm a proud music #BasicBitch

2029 seems right- 30th anniversary of Woodstock '99 😂
 
It really comes full circle scary quickly. The grunge I liked isn't even the modern equivalent of the classic 70s rock that seemed ancient at that time. It's early 60s rock ...a time that was basically a history book.

The instant classic "1985" by Bowling For Soup (saw them at Six Flags in the pouring rain in 2005 - great show) came out in 2004.
Referring to 19 years earlier.

A similar song released in 2022 would be called "2003".
WTF?? That's literally Schiano 1.0 times.
I was a Freshman/Sophomore at RU!
 
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They took everything raw and real about punk and polished it down until it was smooth and lustrous enough to be consumed by the masses like a cheap souvenir ...representing a better time in music.

I'm not even that big of an old school punk fan, but I always assumed that pop punk is regarded by real punk fans much the way its contemporary nu metal is regarded by metal fans.
As someone who got into punk in the late 70s, I think you're being a bit narrow-minded with regard to what punk fans (and punk bands even) think about pop-punk or other genres of music. I know that punk was in some ways a response to the overly complex and self-indulgent nature of much of prog/classic rock, as well as the formulaic nature of much of the pop of the time, stripping things down to the emotional essence of loud and fast rock and roll, but it also built on some of the great music from earlier times.

Also, liking punk didn't necessarily mean one would thumb their noses at pop punk or other genres. A perfect example was the Ramones, who have unassailable punk credentials, but they were, at heart, the Beach Boys with louder, faster beats and more distorted guitars - the Ramones were huge Beach Boys fans and underneath all the noise, wrote great pop songs (with one of their best covers being a Beach Boys song, Do You Wanna Dance). And look at all the punk/alt all-stars on the Carpenters cover album.

I love all kinds of music, even if punk/alt/indie are kind of my "home base" - and I'd say most of my friends who have somewhat similar tastes in music also appreciate many other genres. I, for one, would love to see this tour, especially as Green Day and Blink 182 are a couple of my favorite bands and I like most (but not all) of the others.
 
Possibly the best festival in the history of our species has been announced.

When We Were Young 2023
https://www.whenwewereyoungfestival.com/


Blink 182
Green Day
Simple Plan
Sum 41
Good Charlotte
New Found Glory
Bowling For Soup
The Offspring
Lit
Yellowcard

And this is just the tip of the iceberg!
Take all of my money.
Literally all of it.

I already went to this show, Warped Tour — Raceway Park 2004. Violin Guy in Yellowcard killed it. Rock the vote! John Kerry’s gonna pull this one out!
 
As someone who got into punk in the late 70s, I think you're being a bit narrow-minded with regard to what punk fans (and punk bands even) think about pop-punk or other genres of music. I know that punk was in some ways a response to the overly complex and self-indulgent nature of much of prog/classic rock, as well as the formulaic nature of much of the pop of the time, stripping things down to the emotional essence of loud and fast rock and roll, but it also built on some of the great music from earlier times.

Also, liking punk didn't necessarily mean one would thumb their noses at pop punk or other genres. A perfect example was the Ramones, who have unassailable punk credentials, but they were, at heart, the Beach Boys with louder, faster beats and more distorted guitars - the Ramones were huge Beach Boys fans and underneath all the noise, wrote great pop songs (with one of their best covers being a Beach Boys song, Do You Wanna Dance). And look at all the punk/alt all-stars on the Carpenters cover album.

I love all kinds of music, even if punk/alt/indie are kind of my "home base" - and I'd say most of my friends who have somewhat similar tastes in music also appreciate many other genres. I, for one, would love to see this tour, especially as Green Day and Blink 182 are a couple of my favorite bands and I like most (but not all) of the others.

Maybe, but I didn't make the sentiment up.
 
They took everything raw and real about punk and polished it down until it was smooth and lustrous enough to be consumed by the masses like a cheap souvenir ...representing a better time in music.

I'm not even that big of an old school punk fan, but I always assumed that pop punk is regarded by real punk fans much the way its contemporary nu metal is regarded by metal fans.
Or… you can say that they evolved the genre and refined it. Many of these bands often pay homage to the bands that came before them (releasing a cover of a classic ramones album, for example) and recognize the bands that paved the way for their success.
It’s the same thing in hip hop. Catchy beats and creative samples evolved from guys beat boxing in the neighborhood.
Or metal… is Pantera an insult to metal because they play faster and more intricate than Black Sabbath? Is Metallica’s black album an insult to Ride the Lightening?
Is Luke Bryan or Luke Combs any less because they’re not playing three cords in a prison like Johnny Cash?
 
Half that list is great, the other half not so much (born in 1989)

Many great "pop punk" bands from NJ: Saves The Day, Bouncing Souls (NB's own), Thursday (also NB), Senses Fail, The Early November...
Hell yeah to Thursday! They aren’t pop punk though, they explore a lot of different sounds.

Check out Geoff Rickly’s (Thursday vocalist) other band No Devotion. Just dropped a new album and it’s awesome, modern post-punk at its best IMO.
 
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Hell yeah to Thursday! They aren’t pop punk though, they explore a lot of different sounds.

Check out Geoff Rickly’s (Thursday vocalist) other band No Devotion. Just dropped a new album and it’s awesome, modern post-punk at its best IMO.
Agreed re: Thursday, one of my favorite bands - "pop" punk only as a gross generalization in that you could see Thursday and pretty much any of these bands on the same day/festival back in the day.
 
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In general I would say that the explosion in labeling and referencing bands by all these sub genres has not helped rock music over the last 3 or 4 decades. Many bands seem to be limited in what they think they can play or learning how to expand their sound and improve musically. There was a time when rock bands listened to different major genres of music and incorporated elements of those genres into their sound. In my opinion the best bands are versatile and can go to different places musically. Play different tempos, with varying rhythmic changes, play with finesse and touch and feel , varying mood, varying volume, etc.
 
When is the Nu Metal Fest????
I've already seen Korn many times. Also seen Disturbed, Chevelle, Papa Roach, Linkin Park.

I'm a proud music #BasicBitch

This coming Tuesday, Hoobastank, Lit and Alien Ant Farm will be in Morristown.

I've seen Limp Bizkit and Korn. Linkin Park multiple times. 311 and Incubus more times than can be counted, a lot of crossover fans but not nu metal.

This summer I also saw RATM and Chili Peppers which I guess would be related.

I don't think it's basic...if you're a dude born in the 80s or elder millennial as you say it's your lifeblood.
 
In general I would say that the explosion in labeling and referencing bands by all these sub genres has not helped rock music over the last 3 or 4 decades. Many bands seem to be limited in what they think they can play or learning how to expand their sound and improve musically. There was a time when rock bands listened to different major genres of music and incorporated elements of those genres into their sound. In my opinion the best bands are versatile and can go to different places musically. Play different tempos, with varying rhythmic changes, play with finesse and touch and feel , varying mood, varying volume, etc.

I do wonder sometimes if the compartmentalizing that happened w rock with millennials led to this fracture.

I liked everything from the music at this festival to more metal like Korn and Deftones, but a lot of other people were drawing lines about what they would and would not listen to. And there's been a real dearth of new rock bands in the past 10 years or so.
 
I do wonder sometimes if the compartmentalizing that happened w rock with millennials led to this fracture.

I liked everything from the music at this festival to more metal like Korn and Deftones, but a lot of other people were drawing lines about what they would and would not listen to. And there's been a real dearth of new rock bands in the past 10 years or so.
There’s been a bunch of phenomenal new bands the past decade for all genres of rock, they are almost all on independent labels since the majors no longer focus on any rock that isn’t rote and formulaic. In a prior decade a lot of these would have been on majors or at least very large indie labels.
 
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Good music is timeless. Since the music scene has not changed much in the last 25 year's, many Millennials and Z's have started to listen to the Great music of the late 70's, the 80's, and the last decade that ROCK the 90's!
 
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Hard pass, hung out with armstrong; he's our gens hanoi jane. Will not support
 
There’s been a bunch of phenomenal new bands the past decade for all genres of rock, they are almost all on independent labels since the majors no longer focus on any rock that isn’t rote and formulaic. In a prior decade a lot of these would have been on majors or at least very large indie labels.

Who would you recommend? A lot of bands from that era are still making music I enjoy but I rarely hear of new ones.
 
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