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OT: Electric vehicles

Damn, that looked pretty scary. For sure I want to know what the cause was because if the videos aren't faked or otherwise misrepresentative of what happened, that was very bizarre.

Hard to imagine a driver not being way too scared to drive like that unless there was a stroke or some other brain-function related problem.

I would guess it's one of:

(1) Faked videos and a fake story.
(2) A human driver suffering some sort of severe cognitive issue.
(3) A serious technical issue.

I'll add (2a) some kids trying to steal the car or something weird like that where the "driver" was unable to control the vehicle. Always possible there was some sort of weird circumstance like that. But yeah, very bizarre.
It’s just a moron who pressed the wrong pedal and then floors it when they panic. Happens all the time.

 
It’s just a moron who pressed the wrong pedal and then floors it when they panic. Happens all the time.

There’s no useful evidence of any kind about this incident in that article. Let’s wait and see the result of the investigation.
 
That’s a long way to floor it. Usually, wrong pedal is sudden and immediate. This was like half a mile.
I hear what you’re saying, but to be fair, we don’t know how far it was from the videos or even if the videos are unaltered or whatever. I will say that I have little faith in Tesla to report it’s findings without a heavy dose of bias.
 
This thread took a reasonable point and then went stupid. Of course the exposure is mostly with ICE vehicles. Thanks captain obvious. The point about depreciation is stupid. Depreciation is currently favorable to EV because they are in short supply and in demand. Once the majority of cars become EV, the normal depreciation cycle will resume. Also, exposure to residual values only matter with leased vehicles. For purchased vehicles, the risk is passed on to the consumer.

This is where Tesla stands above other EV manufacturers. Telsa have a lower depreciation than other EVs and a lot less than ICE vehicles.
 
This is where Tesla stands above other EV manufacturers. Telsa have a lower depreciation than other EVs and a lot less than ICE vehicles.
what i'm saying is that, as EV become more commonplace, that may or may not continue. right now, tesla has an advantage in terms of demand, which is why the depreciation is favorable. i would expect that to normalize in the future.
 
This is where Tesla stands above other EV manufacturers. Telsa have a lower depreciation than other EVs and a lot less than ICE vehicles.
Once again with the weird competitiveness with this stuff. Well, okay, we can turn the thread into a brand or technology war if that's what passes for fun. I'll play.

I suppose Tesla has to stand above others somehow, right? Thank goodness for their depreciation. After all, they don't have the longest range or the quickest cars. Never had the best fit/finish quality. Don't have great looks. Are losing market share. Aren't considered particularly luxurious as compared to the true luxury brands. Don't come with the best tech.

But at least they have something they can hang their hats on. 🙂
 
what i'm saying is that, as EV become more commonplace, that may or may not continue. right now, tesla has an advantage in terms of demand, which is why the depreciation is favorable. i would expect that to normalize in the future.
Yup. It will normalize and then do what it does for most stuff w/plenty of competition - fluctuate.

Incidentally, where are people finding their data on car depreciation? While I've quickly found a bunch of sites citing numbers, they seem to be in conflict from site to site. For instance, the following site claims that, as of Aug 11 2022, the Taycan held it's value the best, followed by the Mini Electric. So... yeah, call me skeptical about some of these numbers.

 
This is where Tesla stands above other EV manufacturers. Telsa have a lower depreciation than other EVs and a lot less than ICE vehicles.
Would like to see the numbers behind that. Most EVs are holding value. Would be surprise to see Tesla outperforming.
 
what i'm saying is that, as EV become more commonplace, that may or may not continue. right now, tesla has an advantage in terms of demand, which is why the depreciation is favorable. i would expect that to normalize in the future.
Another factor to consider: Most EV manufacturers push out free OTA software updates. Most EVs will improve over time, holding their value. Without a doubt, my Model 3 is a better vehicle today compared to when I bought it 3 years ago. Another nail in the coffin for the ICE.
 
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Tesla's Austin factory = Qatar's world cup venues.
Stop it. Law of averages. With thousands of workers at Giga Austin every day, you'd expect something like this from 1 guy. And to your great disappointment I'm sure, the responsibility for these complaints fall on the contracting companies rather than Tesla.
 
That big hunk of Croatian insanity named the Rimac Nevera hit a new EV record speed of 258 mph. Impressive for any car but especially an electric. Same car can go from 0 to 100 mph in 4.3 sec.

Looks like it only did it on a single run, not the two-way run required by Guinness and others, but still pretty awesome feat. That puts it roughly 46 mph behind the one-way 304 mph top speed Bugatti hit a year or two ago.

 
Another factor to consider: Most EV manufacturers push out free OTA software updates. Most EVs will improve over time, holding their value. Without a doubt, my Model 3 is a better vehicle today compared to when I bought it 3 years ago. Another nail in the coffin for the ICE.
Except that physical goods deteriorate or are deprecated over time. Always. Hence depreciating assets. No auto maker or company is going to be in the business of making things that last forever. It's bad for business.
 
Stop it. Law of averages. With thousands of workers at Giga Austin every day, you'd expect something like this from 1 guy. And to your great disappointment I'm sure, the responsibility for these complaints fall on the contracting companies rather than Tesla.
That's the same thing the Qatar World Cup committee says... that it's the contractors fault. Coincidence? I think not.
 
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But his Model 3 will be worth twice what he paid for it 5 years from now! Cuz OTA updates!
Everybody knows that Tesla’s OTA updates are better than everybody else’s OTA updates. Tesla, naturally, has the best air upon which to send updates over. Their air stands above other’s air. Even if it is slightly Musky.

Yaaaaaaay, Tesla!




Heh heh heh.
 
Except that physical goods deteriorate or are deprecated over time. Always. Hence depreciating assets. No auto maker or company is going to be in the business of making things that last forever. It's bad for business.
You're moving the goalposts. No one is arguing that hardware doesn't deteriorate. However, since EVs have less hardware and complexity, you'd expect less deterioration and depreciation. Why do you think fleet owners are drooling over EVs?
 
You're moving the goalposts. No one is arguing that hardware doesn't deteriorate. However, since EVs have less hardware and complexity, you'd expect less deterioration and depreciation. Why do you think fleet owners are drooling over EVs?
how is that moving the goalposts? depreciation in consumer goods is pretty much immutable. you have a shiny new good...in a few years of using it, it's no longer shiny and new and worth less than what you paid for. the point was that depreciation figures across the industry will normalize once EV's are ubiquitous and there isn't a skew in the supply/demand curve. you can't say that one company is better than another wrt EV depreciation when the market is not mature.

your kneejerk defensive reaction to anything i post is hilarious. you are so sensitive.
 
how is that moving the goalposts? depreciation in consumer goods is pretty much immutable. you have a shiny new good...in a few years of using it, it's no longer shiny and new and worth less than what you paid for. the point was that depreciation figures across the industry will normalize once EV's are ubiquitous and there isn't a skew in the supply/demand curve. you can't say that one company is better than another wrt EV depreciation when the market is not mature.

your kneejerk defensive reaction to anything i post is hilarious. you are so sensitive.
This is boring. I'm comparing the depreciation of EVs to ICE. EVs = less mechanical shit to get old and deteriorate, less repairs and maintenance as the vehicle ages + the ability to add features and functions through software. Take those facts and conclude whatever you want.

Where did I say one EV company is better than another wrt depreciation? I stated that my vehicle has better features and performance today vs when I bought it new because of OTA updates. That is a fact.

If you post something moronic, like implying Tesla is importing slave laborers, you'll be corrected. There's already enough FUD around the sustainable energy movement. Don't add to it. Why are you here anyway? Do you even own an EV/potential buyer?
 
This is boring. I'm comparing the depreciation of EVs to ICE. EVs = less mechanical shit to get old and deteriorate, less repairs and maintenance as the vehicle ages + the ability to add features and functions through software. Take those facts and conclude whatever you want.

Where did I say one EV company is better than another wrt depreciation? I stated that my vehicle has better features and performance today vs when I bought it new because of OTA updates. That is a fact.

If you post something moronic, like implying Tesla is importing slave laborers, you'll be corrected. There's already enough FUD around the sustainable energy movement. Don't add to it. Why are you here anyway? Do you even own an EV/potential buyer?
And yet 911s, along with some others, all of which are ICEVs, are not depreciating as much as Teslas right now. Or even depreciating at all. Right now.

But go ahead and tell us how moronic everybody besides you is. 🤣
 
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This is boring. I'm comparing the depreciation of EVs to ICE. EVs = less mechanical shit to get old and deteriorate, less repairs and maintenance as the vehicle ages + the ability to add features and functions through software. Take those facts and conclude whatever you want.

Where did I say one EV company is better than another wrt depreciation? I stated that my vehicle has better features and performance today vs when I bought it new because of OTA updates. That is a fact.

If you post something moronic, like implying Tesla is importing slave laborers, you'll be corrected. There's already enough FUD around the sustainable energy movement. Don't add to it. Why are you here anyway? Do you even own an EV/potential buyer?
 
This is boring. I'm comparing the depreciation of EVs to ICE. EVs = less mechanical shit to get old and deteriorate, less repairs and maintenance as the vehicle ages + the ability to add features and functions through software. Take those facts and conclude whatever you want.

Where did I say one EV company is better than another wrt depreciation? I stated that my vehicle has better features and performance today vs when I bought it new because of OTA updates. That is a fact.

If you post something moronic, like implying Tesla is importing slave laborers, you'll be corrected. There's already enough FUD around the sustainable energy movement. Don't add to it. Why are you here anyway? Do you even own an EV/potential buyer?


 
This is boring. I'm comparing the depreciation of EVs to ICE. EVs = less mechanical shit to get old and deteriorate, less repairs and maintenance as the vehicle ages + the ability to add features and functions through software. Take those facts and conclude whatever you want.

Where did I say one EV company is better than another wrt depreciation? I stated that my vehicle has better features and performance today vs when I bought it new because of OTA updates. That is a fact.

If you post something moronic, like implying Tesla is importing slave laborers, you'll be corrected. There's already enough FUD around the sustainable energy movement. Don't add to it. Why are you here anyway? Do you even own an EV/potential buyer?
 
This is boring. I'm comparing the depreciation of EVs to ICE. EVs = less mechanical shit to get old and deteriorate, less repairs and maintenance as the vehicle ages + the ability to add features and functions through software. Take those facts and conclude whatever you want.

Where did I say one EV company is better than another wrt depreciation? I stated that my vehicle has better features and performance today vs when I bought it new because of OTA updates. That is a fact.

If you post something moronic, like implying Tesla is importing slave laborers, you'll be corrected. There's already enough FUD around the sustainable energy movement. Don't add to it. Why are you here anyway? Do you even own an EV/potential buyer?
 
This is boring. I'm comparing the depreciation of EVs to ICE. EVs = less mechanical shit to get old and deteriorate, less repairs and maintenance as the vehicle ages + the ability to add features and functions through software. Take those facts and conclude whatever you want.

Where did I say one EV company is better than another wrt depreciation? I stated that my vehicle has better features and performance today vs when I bought it new because of OTA updates. That is a fact.

If you post something moronic, like implying Tesla is importing slave laborers, you'll be corrected. There's already enough FUD around the sustainable energy movement. Don't add to it. Why are you here anyway? Do you even own an EV/potential buyer?
care to respond, moron?
 
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