OT: Evicting a tenant in NJ - process?

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Why is it racist?

Because a disproportionate amount of people in rent control apartments are minorities. It effectively locks them in and destroys their economic mobility and ensures they're poor forever. It's a cheap dirt disgusting scumbag move by dems to ensure they always have a poor block to keep them in power. https://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-rent-control-doesnt-work/

 

[jtung230]

Because a disproportionate amount of people in rent control apartments are minorities. It effectively locks them in and destroys their economic mobility and ensures they're poor forever. It's a cheap dirt disgusting scumbag move by dems to ensure they always have a poor block to keep them in power. https://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-rent-control-doesnt-work/

I think you have a very NE view of the world.

 

[beaced]

I really am shocked that athletic directors don't pay attention to the obvious coaching talent displayed on message boards. This is truly an untapped resource for them.

I DO like the SPANKER MAN.

 

[rurichdog]

How not to evict a tenant in NJ. Since when is Roosevelt NJ (between Allentown and Upper Freehold) the Jersey Shore?

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On the shores of Rising Sun Lake? I got nuthin.

 

[megadrone]

Whatever happened to the OP? Did he evict the freeloader?

 

[Plum Street]

Because a disproportionate amount of people in rent control apartments are minorities. It effectively locks them in and destroys their economic mobility and ensures they're poor forever. It's a cheap dirt disgusting scumbag move by dems to ensure they always have a poor block to keep them in power. https://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-rent-control-doesnt-work/

Lol. Kinda like diet companies investing in McDonald’s!

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

I think you have a very NE view of the world.

Why do you think politicians push rent control?

 

[RULoyal]

 

[jtung230]

Why do you think politicians push rent control?

Because the rent is too damn high

 

[megadrone]

Because the rent is too damn high

in city limits, that was partially caused by rent control that has been around since WWII

 

[jtung230]

in city limits, that was partially caused by rent control that has been around since WWII

You missed the joke/reference

 

[NotInRHouse]

Yep.

But not really a “Shore town” IMO.

My DMZ is about anything east of Rte 35 qualifies. Just being in Monmouth County doesn’t cut it.

Although more than a few on here will disagree with my above definition.🤷‍♂️😎

So Headliner isn't the shore? lol

 

[knightfan7]

So Headliner isn't the shore? lol

Isn't it on Rt 35? Are we going to quibble about 50-75'?

Yes, I got the joke.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Isn't it on Rt 35? Are we going to quibble about 50-75'?

Yes, I got the joke.

Correct but It's on the west side of 35.

I think 34 would be fairer than 35...though even that would put Wall Shop Rite not at the shore

 

[knightfan7]

Correct but It's on the west side of 35.

I think 34 would be fairer than 35...though even that would put Wall Shop Rite not at the shore

Nah. I say it's Rt 71 in Monmouth Co but I'm a pompous jerk.

 

[e5fdny]

So Headliner isn't the shore? lol

I meant for northern Monmouth.

And please use Snookease when speaking of that landmark.

It’s pronounced Headlinas my good man.

 

[KeithK7624]

Since this was bumped, figured I’d comment. 18 months later, the tenant is still in the house. Lockout was 2/28. Still waiting on the court officer. New Jersey ****ing sucks.

 

[rutgersal]

Since this was bumped, figured I’d comment. 18 months later, the tenant is still in the house. Lockout was 2/28. Still waiting on the court officer. New Jersey ****ing sucks.

This is why I didn’t sublet my place during the pandemic. People take advantage and you have no recourse if you live in NY or NJ.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Agreed. But its to score cheap political points. Its that simple.

Rent control is racist tbh. Because what it does is encourage those people to never leave that housing unit because monthly nut is so low and therefore they never buy which furthermore means they never build wealth

I get where you are coming from but also consider the other side of it- using your example of tge 4 family in Hoboken. $900-1250
Where is anyone buying and having a mortgage/tax that low. They may not be putting their money into equity but if they could afford to buy a house and have a 3000-3500 mortgage/tax- then that should be 25-30k banked each year by being in a rent controlled apartment. Not counting any repairs they would have to pay for themselves.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

I get where you are coming from but also consider the other side of it- using your example of tge 4 family in Hoboken. $900-1250
Where is anyone buying and having a mortgage/tax that low. They may not be putting their money into equity but if they could afford to buy a house and have a 3000-3500 mortgage/tax- then that should be 25-30k banked each year by being in a rent controlled apartment. Not counting any repairs they would have to pay for themselves.

Rent control fails everyone. Good piece https://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-rent-control-doesnt-work/

 

[jtung230]

Developers sure love the 421a tax program in NYC.

 

[T2Kplus20]

I get where you are coming from but also consider the other side of it- using your example of tge 4 family in Hoboken. $900-1250
Where is anyone buying and having a mortgage/tax that low. They may not be putting their money into equity but if they could afford to buy a house and have a 3000-3500 mortgage/tax- then that should be 25-30k banked each year by being in a rent controlled apartment. Not counting any repairs they would have to pay for themselves.

If someone can't afford the market rate, find somewhere else to live. Pretty simple.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Rent control fails everyone. Good piece https://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-rent-control-doesnt-work/

Agree

If someone can't afford the market rate, find somewhere else to live. Pretty simple.

But...they don't have to. They are in Hoboken for 900-1250 lol just saying

 

[ruinac]

If a developer wants to build multi-unit complexes or inexpensive housing to earn a profit and ease the housing shortage, he should be able to build it wherever he finds suitable land. No exclusionary zoning restrictions in wealthy suburban towns.

”Pretty simple”.

(this post is sarcasm)

 

[T2Kplus20]

Agree

But...they don't have to. They are in Hoboken for 900-1250 lol just saying

Market rate. Rent control is just another way the gov'ment steals from citizens.

 

[ruinac]

Market rate. Rent control is just another way the gov'ment steals from citizens.

are you equally critical of zoning restrictions that “steal” from land owners and developers?

 

[T2Kplus20]

are you equally critical of zoning restrictions that “steal” from land owners and developers?

Zoning is to protect land owners from other land owners (for numerous reasons). Also, if you want a variance, you can apply to the ZBA of your town and convince your peers to issue one. Pretty simple.

Besides zoning, there are other ways to shape a town.

 

[ruinac]

Zoning is to protect land owners from other land owners (for numerous reasons). Also, if you want a variance, you can apply to the ZBA of your town and convince your peers to issue one. Pretty simple.

I already knew what you think. Laws that favor me are good. Laws that favor “them” are bad.

Both zoning restrictions and rent control are anti-developer. One you’re good with, one you’re not.

 

[T2Kplus20]

I already knew what you think. Laws that favor me are good. Laws that favor “them” are bad.

Both zoning restrictions and rent control are anti-developer. One you’re good with, one you’re not.

Zoning is not solely anti-developer since it protects developers from other developers. Rent control doesn't do this. Sorry, apples and oranges.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

If a developer wants to build multi-unit complexes or inexpensive housing to earn a profit and ease the housing shortage, he should be able to build it wherever he finds suitable land. No exclusionary zoning restrictions in wealthy suburban towns.

”Pretty simple”.

(this post is sarcasm)

I agree with you. Suburbs shouldn't be spared either. Its why Houston is awesome. Houston doesnt have zoning.

 

[NotInRHouse]

If a developer wants to build multi-unit complexes or inexpensive housing to earn a profit and ease the housing shortage, he should be able to build it wherever he finds suitable land. No exclusionary zoning restrictions in wealthy suburban towns.

”Pretty simple”.

(this post is sarcasm)

I also wonder where cops and teachers and nurses that live in towns that ban apartments are supposed to live. What's the average home price in his area? Does it qualify as affordable for someone making 100k a year, never mind 50 or 75k?

 

[NotInRHouse]

I agree with you. Suburbs shouldn't be spared either. Its why Houston is awesome. Houston doesnt have zoning.

I mean, if you think Hoboken is expensive now, if you could just plop a mcMansion in the middle of the town ala Houston it'd be even moreso.

Also traffic there and in other sprawly places makes ours look quaint.

It should definitely be easier to build multi family in NJ though as a rule.

 

[Nowucme]

Family member has rental properties in another state and he told me the same thing. Screening tenants is a big thing in successful rental.

Both you guys are spot on. Been renting a condo for 25 years and I have never had a tenant not pay me - ever!

 

[RUskoolie]

Since this was bumped, figured I’d comment. 18 months later, the tenant is still in the house. Lockout was 2/28. Still waiting on the court officer. New Jersey ****ing sucks.

We filed eviction on a tenant in Oct/Nov...court was February, woman shows up with her kid in a stroller...punted to March.

NJ is a blue state with tenant laws that are just ridiculous tbh with evictions.

 

[mdk01]

are you equally critical of zoning restrictions that “steal” from land owners and developers?

Like prohibiting garbage dump (literally, not figuratively) in a residential neighborhood?

 

[MoreCowbellRU]

Had to evict someone once. Months and legal fees. Two things or lawyer told us, NJ is strongly tenant friendly and he would never own rental property in NJ, and if the loser declares bankruptcy he can delay the process at least another year.

Heard a story on the radio once, can't vouch for truth. Landlord had rented to a family and they immediately stopped paying, knew all the tricks and worked the system, apparently went from house to house every few years without paying. After 6 months or so the landlord waited for them to go to work (they had money, just didn't pay), brought in moving company and packed up their whole house and put in storage, first month was $1. Changed the locks and waited for them to come home. Told them they were out and gave them the information where their stuff was stored. Tenants called police and they hear them both out and then said this is a civil matter and left. Tenants left and never heard from again. Sometimes dealing with scumbags you gotta be one.

In NJ you would get your ass handed to you in court for doing this.
Do not follow this example.
The process is fairly long and sucks. But, if you follow the correct procedure, you will be rid of them. A lawyer is not required if you are in any way capable of paperwork.