OT: Fran Brown hired by Syracuse
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I can see why. But again - never a head coach to being a P5 head guy - very risky no matter how well he recruits.
It would be a Shane Beamer type hire at USCe. I’m fine with coordinators but position coaches/recruiters less so but I suppose they’re hoping the recruiting connections and some of the UGA magic rubs off.
It’ll depend on his staff and what kind of connections he’s made in that regard.
won't hurt us, no hc experience, lifelong position guy, never offered anything by any gig he's had
good recruiter but recruiting and hc are worlds apart
Syracuse is desperate to get a toe in NJ. They should hire Chris Christie.
#1 at UGA but nonetheless, he’s atill good at it. IMO schools like Cuse, IU, Kansas or us and similar should hire good coaches that develop and find ways to make things work with what they have as opposed to recruiters. Nothing is a guarantee but imo that’s a better avenue with more potential for success.
His success will hinge on his connections and what kind of staff he can get.
His success will hinge on his connections and what kind of staff he can get.
Because of his recruiting prowess there would be a short term negative problem. But the guy hasn't even been a coordinator and during his time with us he wasn't a very good position coach.
You can recruit with the best but if you don't win the kids will stop coming. If I was 'Cuse I'd go after the guy from Holy Cross.
You can recruit with the best but if you don't win the kids will stop coming. If I was 'Cuse I'd go after the guy from Holy Cross.
Easy to recruit to Georgia....Syracuse??? Not so much
He did well at Rutgers.
So, if he had gotten the coordinator job at RU, which many on here advocated for, he'd probably be leaving now anyway and he'd have coordinator experience under his belt.
He will be a pain in the ass in head to head battles with RU for recruits.
Kinda easy to recruit to the Dawgs. Trying to get a kid to Sarah and ass deep snow is something else
If only that were the entire job description.
It's like Syracuse is trying harder to troll RU/steal R recruits than actually hire a competent HC.
A coaching idea that might as well have come by majority vote in that hundred-pages-long anti-RU thread.
Worst case scenario for RU - Were already barely getting top 10 players in NJ now will be that much harder if Fran gets the job :(
Sure and I said that but wasn’t he a good recruiter at Temple, Baylor and here…he’s not going to get UGA level recruits but might get better than Syracuse otherwise would’ve gotten.
I don’t think that’s what a school with that profile needs but we’ll see how he does if he ends up being the choice.
In this day and age of NIL, is Cuse able to pony up to get/keep good recruits? Playing in the hinterland of upstate NY in the ACC is going to be a tough sell regardless.
Nice gamble by the Cuse. I am still of the proven winner school of thought.
Rolling the dice but they have nothing to lose.
Rolling the dice but they have nothing to lose.
Before Brown it was Hafley who was anointed "the" recruiting savior at RU.
I stopped being impressed with the boss recruiters.
I've never heard about a program that went to the top because of some position coach recruiting guru.
Kelly won BE with 2 stars.
I stopped being impressed with the boss recruiters.
I've never heard about a program that went to the top because of some position coach recruiting guru.
Kelly won BE with 2 stars.
SU was unhappy with Babers "national approach" to recruiting.
SU aware that its past football success was built with local/regional emphasis
"Syracuse has always been — and will continue to be — a tough place to recruit, given its geography and climate, but there have been ways around that. Paul Pasqualoni, George DeLeone and others grinded to build a northeast recruiting base for SU that focused on recruiting in a five-to-six hour radius of the campus. Doug Marrone emulated that approach and made progress over his four years.
Babers, a West Coast native, came to SU with minimal local recruiting ties. He opted for a more national approach, and there was frustration within SU’s athletic department that he hadn’t built a larger presence around the northeast, according to The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman.
Wildhack realizes SU’s four most successful coaches — Ben Schwartzwalder, Dick MacPherson, Pasqualoni and Marrone — were northeast natives, and that will play a role in this decision.
“Sometimes history can be a really good teacher,” Wildhack said. "
Smith: The Dino Babers experiment never made sense for Syracuse
Column: Dino Babers' recruiting and offensive approach never worked at Syracuse, making his firing only a matter of time.
dailyorange.com
Yet he won 10 games and beat Clemson twice.SU was unhappy with Babers "national approach" to recruiting.
SU aware that its past football success was built with local/regional emphasis
"Syracuse has always been — and will continue to be — a tough place to recruit, given its geography and climate, but there have been ways around that. Paul Pasqualoni, George DeLeone and others grinded to build a northeast recruiting base for SU that focused on recruiting in a five-to-six hour radius of the campus. Doug Marrone emulated that approach and made progress over his four years.
Babers, a West Coast native, came to SU with minimal local recruiting ties. He opted for a more national approach, and there was frustration within SU’s athletic department that he hadn’t built a larger presence around the northeast, according to The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman.
Wildhack realizes SU’s four most successful coaches — Ben Schwartzwalder, Dick MacPherson, Pasqualoni and Marrone — were northeast natives, and that will play a role in this decision.
“Sometimes history can be a really good teacher,” Wildhack said. "
Smith: The Dino Babers experiment never made sense for Syracuse
Column: Dino Babers' recruiting and offensive approach never worked at Syracuse, making his firing only a matter of time.dailyorange.com
Cuse has done OK with NJ recruits, just not as good as in past. They got Duce Chestnut from NJ and Lequint Allen from Millville who ran for 1062 yards this season and 4.7 YPC. Fran Brown would amp that up with more recruits from South Jersey.
LeQuint Allen Career Stats - NCAAF - ESPN
Complete career NCAAF stats for Syracuse Orange Running Back LeQuint Allen on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.
If you graph RU and Cuse records for the last 40 years they are basically inverses. They need us to stink, otherwise they stink.SU was unhappy with Babers "national approach" to recruiting.
SU aware that its past football success was built with local/regional emphasis
"Syracuse has always been — and will continue to be — a tough place to recruit, given its geography and climate, but there have been ways around that. Paul Pasqualoni, George DeLeone and others grinded to build a northeast recruiting base for SU that focused on recruiting in a five-to-six hour radius of the campus. Doug Marrone emulated that approach and made progress over his four years.
Babers, a West Coast native, came to SU with minimal local recruiting ties. He opted for a more national approach, and there was frustration within SU’s athletic department that he hadn’t built a larger presence around the northeast, according to The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman.
Wildhack realizes SU’s four most successful coaches — Ben Schwartzwalder, Dick MacPherson, Pasqualoni and Marrone — were northeast natives, and that will play a role in this decision.
“Sometimes history can be a really good teacher,” Wildhack said. "
Smith: The Dino Babers experiment never made sense for Syracuse
Column: Dino Babers' recruiting and offensive approach never worked at Syracuse, making his firing only a matter of time.dailyorange.com
Christie thinks he will be busy running the country.
I remember the first time RU played Marrone's Syracuse (2009) and got annihilated in first half
Savage was sacked 7 times and SU out-rushed RU 259-82.
Savage ended-up sacked 9 times - the SU sack record.
Marrone wanted to blow RU away for recruiting purposes and RU never saw the game coming.
It was like they never got off the bus.
""We just wanted to keep the pressure on him. We didn't want to let up," Syracuse's Doug Hogue said. "Going into the game, we wanted to make sure the quarterback knew we were going to bring it."
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I’m actually jealous of Cuse… they’ll start pulling in better recruiting classes than RU consistently. This was an outside the box hire but it makes me very nervous as RU fan. And I think he’d have a lot more success at RU with B1G ties and not being 5 hours from NY/NJ/PA
