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DontTedonMe

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Yep,it's sad. Can barely get a manly handshake out of these clowns, with their suits too tight, horrible facial hair, and there new app on their $600 phone making duck faces and selfies. I hate the word "selfies"
 
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Yep,it's sad. Can barely get a manly handshake out of these clowns, with their suits too tight, horrible facial hair, and there new app on their $600 phone making duck faces and selfies. I hate the word "selfies"
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DontTedonMe said:
Resigning via text message.. LOL. Can't self direct, can't communicate face to face, can't show up to work on time. Undisciplined slugs obsessed with their silly electronic gadgets. Worst generation of slugs this country has ever known. I'll have no problem getting a job competing against these slackers. This article confirms what I've known for years.

http://nj1015.com/nj-employers-literally-cant-even-right-now-with-their-millennial-workers/
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I'm sure there's some truth to this. OTOH, keep in mind that the older generation always complains about the younger one. This goes back to Babylonian times at least.
 
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Yeah, everything thats wrong is with this generation....

Please. The modern managers are lowballing kids like crazy. Most of them have a nice chunk in their 401k or pensions meanwhile the recent graduates cant even think about retirement. Not to mention the hiring managers went to college for mostly free.

Yes, the recent grads with low salaries and high loans are to blame. (sarcasm)

Most modern employers dont deserve formality. They treat young employees like crap. Low ball them and then dont give raises.
 
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camdenlawprof said:
I'm sure there's some truth to this. OTOH, keep in mind that the older generation always complains about the younger one. This goes back to Babylonian times at least.
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That's a crutch argument. To be honest, lot of times the older generation is actually correct. What usually happens is that as the younger generation matures, they change the behavior in question. That doesn't mitigate the fact that the behavior in question was still problematic.
 
topdecktiger said:
That's a crutch argument. To be honest, lot of times the older generation is actually correct. What usually happens is that as the younger generation matures, they change the behavior in question. That doesn't mitigate the fact that the behavior in question was still problematic.
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They do change the behavior, but only somewhat. For instance, men of the present generation are much less formal in their dress than their fathers. There was a time when it was considered uncultured to appear in public without a necktie. Men's and women's fashions of today would freak out their parents, and that's true even of fashions for adults. But I'll give an example that illustrates your point: employers in the early 1970s were thoroughly appalled by the work habits of the young; those habits became a lot more acceptable as the young aged.
 
Having employed some really horrible millennials this doesn't really surprise or bother me. I'm sure my parents generation was appalled the first time one of us quit via email.
 
jay_hq said:
Yeah, everything thats wrong is with this generation....

Please. The modern managers are lowballing kids like crazy. Most of them have a nice chunk in their 401k or pensions meanwhile the recent graduates cant even think about retirement. Not to mention the hiring managers went to college for mostly free.

Yes, the recent grads with low salaries and high loans are to blame. (sarcasm)

Most modern employers dont deserve formality. They treat young employees like crap. Low ball them and then dont give raises.
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This is pretty spot on. My job has I believe eight salaried employees and the only benefits we get are four sick days and ten vacation days. Raises are almost unheard of, we each work 45-50 hours a week, and we get no health insurance, but at least after I've been pushing hard for this for a while now, we finally have a meeting next week to discuss starting a 401k. I'm pretty sure I'm one of only two of us have any sort of retirement savings on our own and I was only just able to start a couple months ago, and we are all around 30 or a little older, and all of us have a college degree (and before someone asks--none of our degrees are in some pointless major like art history) except for two of us--one of the two went into the military instead. At least the GM that was brought in six months ago seems a lot more willing to take care of his employees than the other people we've had in charge.

With that said, I have had some of my employees resign via text message, and I didn't really think much of it. What does piss me off is when employees resign without giving two weeks notice. I'd rather get a text message saying they're done in two weeks than have someone come to my office in a suit to hand-deliver a letter saying that they are quitting immediately. We even had one employee who gave us two weeks notice, but then just stopped showing up to work during those last two weeks even though she was scheduled.

I really don't get how the "young people don't know how to ____" complainers are blaming millenials for a lot of what they don't know. Didn't you learn from your parents? Why is your generation incapable of raising a good generation?
 
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jay_hq said:
Yeah, everything thats wrong is with this generation....

Please. The modern managers are lowballing kids like crazy. Most of them have a nice chunk in their 401k or pensions meanwhile the recent graduates cant even think about retirement. Not to mention the hiring managers went to college for mostly free.

Yes, the recent grads with low salaries and high loans are to blame. (sarcasm)

Most modern employers dont deserve formality. They treat young employees like crap. Low ball them and then dont give raises.
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Wha Wha whaa. Suck it up and take an entry level job, gain experience for a year and your next employer will pay you more. Millennials want 60k out of college...lol. They're also too good for the old starter home expecting to move right in to a 4-BR 2 bath colonial on a cul-de-sac at age 25. They're the worst and it goes beyond N generation's disdain for N-1

http://nj1015.com/nj-millennials-are-skipping-starter-homes-and-going-for-these-instead/
 
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^ Agree completely

By age I'm unfortunately lumped into the millenial group. Just like every generation there are good and bad work accountable people. I think part of the problem is the entitlement factor (which is bc they've gotten everything as kids w/out doing anything to earn it)...when you get out of college, you can't expect to make big $. First real career job is always to entry job that gets your foot in the door and experience. No company/profession will pay a ton more money to a person at the entry level just bc they feel they should be paid more. Staying at an entry level job and expecting ceo money is a pipe dream. It also comes down to spending habits. Can't expect to blow through any money thats earned and then expect a raise to cover extra expenses.

The entitlement factor is the problem. "I want more money so I should have it." Or, "I've been here 2 weeks and should get a promotion." And with the house aspect, can't always get what you want. I know people who will get buy their kids a $600 phone but not printer ink for school bc its too expensive-priorities need adjusting.
Its scary.
 
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What generation actually said nice things about the next? Cowboys, hippies, millenials -- same thing: just a way to label the future as inferior to the present.
 
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robcac26 said:
This is pretty spot on. My job has I believe eight salaried employees and the only benefits we get are four sick days and ten vacation days. Raises are almost unheard of, we each work 45-50 hours a week, and we get no health insurance, but at least after I've been pushing hard for this for a while now, we finally have a meeting next week to discuss starting a 401k. I'm pretty sure I'm one of only two of us have any sort of retirement savings on our own and I was only just able to start a couple months ago, and we are all around 30 or a little older, and all of us have a college degree (and before someone asks--none of our degrees are in some pointless major like art history) except for two of us--one of the two went into the military instead. At least the GM that was brought in six months ago seems a lot more willing to take care of his employees than the other people we've had in charge.

With that said, I have had some of my employees resign via text message, and I didn't really think much of it. What does piss me off is when employees resign without giving two weeks notice. I'd rather get a text message saying they're done in two weeks than have someone come to my office in a suit to hand-deliver a letter saying that they are quitting immediately. We even had one employee who gave us two weeks notice, but then just stopped showing up to work during those last two weeks even though she was scheduled.

I really don't get how the "young people don't know how to ____" complainers are blaming millenials for a lot of what they don't know. Didn't you learn from your parents? Why is your generation incapable of raising a good generation?
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Wait your bosses expect you to work full time? Bastards! You only get the equivalent of basically three weeks vacation? OMG! The 401k stuff is crap because if the managers and bosses have them they have to offer them to employees. Finally, Bernie isn't President yet so if you don't like your job you know you can quit and go elsewhere. Right?
 
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FanuSanu52 said:
Yeah!

Lawn Trespassers!

Bushes of gray pubes exploding off drooping ballsacks!

Incontinence!!

Other angry old dude complaints!

Amirite!!??
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The sad thing is that millennials have all the faults listed by the OP, and STILL will wind up, later on, with the
Listed faults here...... They lose out on both ends of the life spectrum.......
 
DontTedonMe said:
Wha Wha whaa. Suck it up and take an entry level job, gain experience for a year and your next employer will pay you more. Millennials want 60k out of college...lol. They're also too good for the old starter home expecting to move right in to a 4-BR 2 bath colonial on a cul-de-sac at age 25. They're the worst and it goes beyond N generation's disdain for N-1

http://nj1015.com/nj-millennials-are-skipping-starter-homes-and-going-for-these-instead/
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We have some if these grubsters at work and it bad. I agree with all of the above statements. I love the poster that said all they want to do is take selfies and make duck faces. Hilarious.
 
LOL. No millenial wants to live on a cul de sac. We live in cities. We leave the rush to the burbs in unhappy marriages with unwanted and can't be afforded children to the older generation.

And LMAO, the older generation had little or no debt, states had free college and that was if you needed a degree.

It is wonderful when the boomer employers who treat millenials like crap get stiffed. They deserve the text message. Don't pay, get crap work. I hope they have to stay late to make up for it and that it ruined whatever plans they have. Hopefully they lose money. Well deserved.

There are plenty of good employers. I have a six figure job and unlimited vacation days, and there is a lot of respect and good work done in my office. It is very easy for my employer to lure employees from some moronic boomer who pays awful salary and doesn't provide proper benefits.
 
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LOL. No millenial wants to live on a cul de sac. We live in cities. We leave the rush to the burbs in unhappy marriages with unwanted and can't be afforded children to the older generation.

And LMAO, the older generation had little or no debt, states had free college and that was if you needed a degree.

It is wonderful when the boomer employers who treat millenials like crap get stiffed. They deserve the text message. Don't pay, get crap work. I hope they have to stay late to make up for it and that it ruined whatever plans they have. Hopefully they lose money. Well deserved.

There are plenty of good employers. I have a six figure job and unlimited vacation days, and there is a lot of respect and good work done in my office. It is very easy for my employer to lure employees from some moronic boomer who pays awful salary and doesn't provide proper benefits.
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Can't imagine anyplace you work being respectful as you are the most disrespectful person on this site. Just look at your post above. That being said, can you explain how unlimited vacation days works? So you could roll into your office on Monday and say I'm feeling a little tired so I'll be back in Octoboer?
 
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Some of the "get off my lawn" set in this thread ought to consider the source. When an article leads off with a nonsensical headline ("NJ employers literally can’t even right now with their millennial workers" - can't even what?), it's hard to take the rest of the article seriously. Unless, of course, the headline was written by a millenial, lol.

I've been recruiting eng'g students from Rutgers for 10+ years and interviewing students from a dozen or so other universities for even longer and we hire new people every year and my assessment is that people haven't really changed all that much. Our young folks are bright and motivated (sure, maybe my sample size isn't representative of the whole) and I've seen none of the issues in the article or in this thread.

And, as far as I can tell, my son (he's 21) and lots of kids his age we know through him, just coming into the job market seem to be hard working types. My son has his first internship and despite it being unpaid, he's working his ass off and enjoying it. They do have major concerns about the future of our economy, but that's understandable, given our inevitable relative decline in the global economy.
 
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And right on cue, NIRH bursts on the scene with his unique formula of stupid, opposite of but equal to the OP.

Yes, not a single millennial lives in the suburbs and they never will. And they invented the idea of city living and will never tire of it. They will forever remain hip and "cutting edge" and will laugh at the outmoded ways of younger generations, not vice versa. The new greatest generation.
 
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And right on cue, NIRH bursts on the scene with his unique formula of stupid, opposite of but equal to the OP.

Yes, not a single millennial lives in the suburbs and they never will. And they invented the idea of city living and will never tire of it. They will forever remain hip and "cutting edge" and will laugh at the outmoded ways of younger generations, not vice versa. The new greatest generation.
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I know a few millennials who easily transitioned from the city to the burbs...... Once they have kids themselves, they begin to mimic boomers.
 
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I know a few millennials who easily transitioned from the city to the burbs...... Once they have kids themselves, they begin to mimic boomers.
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Kind of like the sitcom "Friends". Didn't they all move to the suburbs?
 
RU848789 said:
Some of the "get off my lawn" set in this thread ought to consider the source. When an article leads off with a nonsensical headline ("NJ employers literally can’t even right now with their millennial workers" - can't even what?), it's hard to take the rest of the article seriously. Unless, of course, the headline was written by a millenial, lol.

I've been recruiting eng'g students from Rutgers for 10+ years and interviewing students from a dozen or so other universities for even longer and we hire new people every year and my assessment is that people haven't really changed all that much. Our young folks are bright and motivated (sure, maybe my sample size isn't representative of the whole) and I've seen none of the issues in the article or in this thread.

And, as far as I can tell, my son (he's 21) and lots of kids his age we know through him, just coming into the job market seem to be hard working types. My son has his first internship and despite it being unpaid, he's working his ass off and enjoying it. They do have major concerns about the future of our economy, but that's understandable, given our inevitable relative decline in the global economy.
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You are in the minority with your experience with these grubsters
 
NotInRHouse said:
LOL. No millenial wants to live on a cul de sac. We live in cities. We leave the rush to the burbs in unhappy marriages with unwanted and can't be afforded children to the older generation.

And LMAO, the older generation had little or no debt, states had free college and that was if you needed a degree.

It is wonderful when the boomer employers who treat millenials like crap get stiffed. They deserve the text message. Don't pay, get crap work. I hope they have to stay late to make up for it and that it ruined whatever plans they have. Hopefully they lose money. Well deserved.

There are plenty of good employers. I have a six figure job and unlimited vacation days, and there is a lot of respect and good work done in my office. It is very easy for my employer to lure employees from some moronic boomer who pays awful salary and doesn't provide proper benefits.
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Not in our house has a very bad attitude and he wants respect. He is probably the biggest idiot on this entire board , and we have lots of idiots on here .
 
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vkj91 said:
Can't imagine anyplace you work being respectful as you are the most disrespectful person on this site. Just look at your post above. That being said, can you explain how unlimited vacation days works? So you could roll into your office on Monday and say I'm feeling a little tired so I'll be back in Octoboer?
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He's an Uber driver. He sets his own hours. Of course if he doesn't work until October, he doesn't earn any money til then.
 
RU848789 said:
Some of the "get off my lawn" set in this thread ought to consider the source. When an article leads off with a nonsensical headline ("NJ employers literally can’t even right now with their millennial workers" - can't even what?), it's hard to take the rest of the article seriously. Unless, of course, the headline was written by a millenial, lol.

I've been recruiting eng'g students from Rutgers for 10+ years and interviewing students from a dozen or so other universities for even longer and we hire new people every year and my assessment is that people haven't really changed all that much. Our young folks are bright and motivated (sure, maybe my sample size isn't representative of the whole) and I've seen none of the issues in the article or in this thread.

And, as far as I can tell, my son (he's 21) and lots of kids his age we know through him, just coming into the job market seem to be hard working types. My son has his first internship and despite it being unpaid, he's working his ass off and enjoying it. They do have major concerns about the future of our economy, but that's understandable, given our inevitable relative decline in the global economy.
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I'm guessing it might be more of the type of person you're recruiting and the type of job you're recruiting for, no?
 
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