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OT: Plane and helicopter collide in DC
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Why was the Military giving training to a person on her second day of a new position behind the wheel?
How can this be done at a very busy time at very busy place.
At some point it's going to be the 2nd day.
Look, this is important. There's no "soft peddling" flight training. There's no "let's not do this because there's risk". It's immersion training and hard core, at that.
FAA training requirements mandate that no student pilot may operate an aircraft solo before 10 hours of instruction. I did it at exactly 10, the average is probably around 12. That's not a lot of instruction. But you're either going to "get it" or you're not. It's serious business and the training process is very much designed to identify and weed out those who can't be easily trained.
First solo is an interesting ritual. Audiences are encouraged. When you land the mob cuts whatever shirt you're wearing from your body and it gets hung up on a wall. Because when you land, you've done something. Something that the overwhelming majority of people will never do and that most could never really conceive of.
I remember mine. I did a few touch & go approaches with my instructor, then landed and parked. He got out of the plane and walked away, I powered it up and taxied back to the runway and took off.
Taking off, by the way, is pretty easy. It's so easy that, on your very first introductory flight most instructors will let you do it by yourself, without their hands guiding the yoke or hovering over the throttle.
Landing is very much a different thing. Landing is hard. All. The. Time. And I vividly remember, as I turned onto a short final approach alone for the very first time, thinking to myself, "well, you have to do this or you'll die." Most people will never encounter that situation, a circumstance where, if you f*ck up just a little, you wind up actually dead.
The immersion, the baptism by fire, continue all the way through your training. Your first instrument landing. First night flight, and night landing. Your first engine-out takeoff. The first time you manage an approach in a large, fast aircraft (mine was a King Air 250, the biggest plane I've ever flown) where the approach speed is nearly 200 mph and you have to kiss the runway at a buck forty.
Right or wrong, the particular Army unit was accustomed to training in the DCA area. They did it on the daily. They did it playing chicken with commercial jets full of people who fully expected to be getting on with their lives once the plane landed. Again, you can question the sanity of it, overall - and I certainly do - but that's what they did.
So it was always, at some point, going to be the second day.
By the way, for those who aren't aware... If there are two people in the cockpit then the person not at the controls has the primary responsibility for handing the radios, engaging with non-flight controls (gear, flaps, throttles, etc.) and watching for traffic. So, for those who are really invested in the distinction, if a girl was flying the helicopter than a guy was responsible for the other stuff.
And what if you want it all to stay private? Particularly communications between a parent and deceased child. And you know that at least some of those who want to dig deeper would say that the lack of a "smoking gun" just shows things have been deleted and will still create wild theories.
lol at people posting anonymously on a football board getting out the tin foil over a family protecting its privacy.
It’s normal for someone’s entire family to wipe out all online info ??
The 2 other pilots didn’t have that done while their names were released 2 days earlier ???
The 2 other pilots didn’t have that done while their names were released 2 days earlier ???
Why do you think the 2 other pilots didn’t need to do it?
Thank you for taking the time to explain this is a clear way. Your expertise is appreciated.
I did an image search days ago after name came out.
I can see why they might have wanted to delete some things in current situation
At USMA they would say she's part of "the family."
Now that wouldn't mean she was not talented for flying.
But she might have been getting rushed - the goal is to takeover command and people are kicked up the ladder.
DEI is intended to surpass AA and hijack Civil Rights movement with great emphasis on a certain other groups.
If you watched LA fire officials you could see what was going on.
I can see why they might have wanted to delete some things in current situation
At USMA they would say she's part of "the family."
Now that wouldn't mean she was not talented for flying.
But she might have been getting rushed - the goal is to takeover command and people are kicked up the ladder.
DEI is intended to surpass AA and hijack Civil Rights movement with great emphasis on a certain other groups.
If you watched LA fire officials you could see what was going on.
It is the same site that had her name when no other outlet had it. Discredit the site if you want, but all I said was it seemed odd and it lends itself to scrutiny. Rest assured, the sweeping stuff under the rug is a thing of the past for the next 4 years. Well, let me correct myself, if indeed Trump orders stuff hidden, he'll have to break some land speed records to catch up to the Obama/Pelosi/Schiff/Schumer Regime. Ask Jill, I think she's about ready to pop a cork on the whole $hitshow. 😁
that would be cbs and abc
Unless the family scrubbed the backup tapes in the data center, they didn't scrub shit. Hopefully they didn't screw up any investigations with that little stunt. Because while the pilot's family wanted to "protect it's privacy", the other 66 families want the unvarnished truth on wtf happened.
And you think that unvarnished truth is gonna come from the pilot’s Facebook page?
How silly are you people?
There should be no stones left unturned.
This is a gross negligence from either ATC or the pilot resulting in catastrophic loss of life…Every source of information is on the table
And if investigators feel it’s necessary to see her social media page, they likely can get access.
The fact the family took down the public side of her social media isn’t all that unusual and not all that surprising.
Interesting, so what has the actual investigation revealed? Anyone have any details on that? I knew the pilot was a woman or a black person or a Mexican or something as soon as the company line was to blame dei. And it was said that you have to be a genius and highly intellectual etc to fly. Has to speak to his political base, perception of First 100 days in office are what's important here. I don't like these emotional responses because you never end up actually solving the problem. I remember Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois you posted about dei. And how freeman the dei hire lost to a 1aa team, let's try not to allow preconceived notions to guide us. Dei, dei, dei it's become like AI in business...just add AI to the end of anything you want sell and people buy or invest in it lol...buzzword don't mean to laugh at the situation but the way people are behaving these days is comical to me .I did an image search days ago after name came out.
I can see why they might have wanted to delete some things in current situation
At USMA they would say she's part of "the family."
Now that wouldn't mean she was not talented for flying.
But she might have been getting rushed - the goal is to takeover command and people are kicked up the ladder.
DEI is intended to surpass AA and hijack Civil Rights movement with great emphasis on a certain other groups.
If you watched LA fire officials you could see what was going on.
Kind of like how the catch phrase he's Hitler and we must save Democracy has been tossed around no matter what the topic I guess. Either way you look at it, we all fly and we need to hear went wrong to correct it, no matter what it turns out to be. That's a fair request, no?
Originally they thought it was a Trans pilot, Jo Ellis, but they found out she was still alive after they contacted her. That’s why they thought it was DEI. He probably saw it on social media. People are believing everything they read on social media.
Who is Jo Ellis? Trans Black Hawk pilot wrongly named in DC crash
Jo Ellis said it is "insulting to the victims and families" to have been incorrectly named as one of the pilots involved in the crash on Wednesday.
www.newsweek.com
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Because the commercial aircraft pilot had a Hispanic surname and the co-pilot was a woman.Originally they thought it was a Trans pilot but they found out she was still alive after they contacted her. That’s why they thought it was DEI. He probably saw it on social media
Who is Jo Ellis? Trans Black Hawk pilot wrongly named in DC crash
Jo Ellis said it is "insulting to the victims and families" to have been incorrectly named as one of the pilots involved in the crash on Wednesday.
That’s like when the Silicon Valley Bank failed in 2023, many on this board blamed DEI policies hiring females and minorities. So anytime anything bad happens blame females and minority, interesting.
I wonder if their spouse is working and someone blame the mistake on her since she’s DEI whether they agree with her or silently agree that it’s her fault. It’s amusing.
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Who said that they shouldn't investigate and let us know what happened? The problem is that people think they are entitled to be given information every single step of the way here. You aren't.
But the downside to that is the vacuum is then filled with the conspiracies that explode on social media. People then think they can investigate themselves and suddenly they are down rabbit holes from sources that confirm their bias, etc.
Take the pilot's family taking down her social media. Suddenly the conspiracies start flying despite the fact there could be a very valid reason for that. Like maybe the family was afraid given the whole DEI craziness that people would start flooding her pages, contacting them, contacting friends, etc. We have learned that there is a subset of our society that are crazy and have zero compassion and are easily duped so it's not surprising (and nor is this the only time it's happened in a tragic event like this) where a family removes social media access for fear of what people might do. Just look at what people did to those Sandy Hook families after having their heads filled with BS by Alex Jones.
If her social media page has value in the investigation, then let the NTSB and military get it. What we don't need are some internet Columbos out there harassing the family. If that's why her social media pages were taken down, and I suspect that's the case given the immediate rush to blame DEI for this, I totally understand the family there.
If it was just her social media pages that would seem normal. Why were both sisters and parents online footprints completely erased ???
No idea what it means and if it means anything at all but it has caused plenty of people to try and dig up anything to make a name for themselves.
No idea what it means and if it means anything at all but it has caused plenty of people to try and dig up anything to make a name for themselves.
Because they too would likely get inundated with the crack pots DMing them, etc.
It's surprising that people here are struggling with this. Social media has become a hell hole. It's filled with angry, mean, vindictive, ignorant people. The family probably realized, and probably rightfully, that in this current climate, once it came out one of the pilot's was a woman, that the anti-DEI crowd would be out in full force. We've seen people's lives upended because social media "sleuths" have claimed something and then harassed people only to find out, whoops, our bad.
I don't blame the family at all for taking themselves out of what is such a toxic cauldron of stupidity at times.
I always wonder what the "its DEI crowd" think when a white male screws up.
Hope you don’t mind, but I added to your description of social media.
100% agree with you and it’s obvious why the family scrubbed social media. NTSB and other investigators will do their jobs. In the meantime, just let the family grieve.
Assuming they'd have a spouse or that any female would voluntarily be in their proximity seems like the worst assumption of all.
They say he's LGBT or just otherwise has a political ideology they don't like. And then if he has a political ideology they do like, say it's a false flag.
This has been well worn over the years.
I think gross negligence by anyone is reprehensible.
This DC accident is gross negligence by someone
I used to say when you need to hear the level headed post in a thread, see what @Upstream said.
You’re getting pretty good at it too.👍
I agree but why immediately claim it is DEI when they never say something is WP? How about there are times even qualified people make errors.
"think" should be replaced in your comment with "imagine", or "make up", or 'fantasize" or "dream up" or "presume" or, well, I think you get the point.
No. But several others on this thread did. My original post never implied I was referring to him.
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