OT: Prime Time will crash and burn

[Knight Shift]

Who did ASU beat that was good? Plus they lost to TT and Cincy. IU didn’t have any signature wins but they didn’t lay eggs.

Iowa State and BYU, and they crushed K-State, a team RU lost to. But I guess under your premise that the B12 sucks, that is not good.
Texas Tech was 8-4/6-3, not a terrible team.

Indiana's wins:
FIU (3-5/4-8) CUSA
W Illinois (4-8) FCS
UCLA (5-7/3-6) tied for 4th worst team in B1G
Charlotte (5-7/4-4) AAC
Maryland (4-8/1-8) 2nd worst team in B1G
NW (4-8/2-7) 3rd worst team in B1G
Nebraska (6-6/3-6) 6th worst team in B1G
Washington (6-6/4-5) middle of pack B1G team
Michigan State (5-7/3-6) tied for 4th worst team in B1G
Michigan (7-5/5-4)- Their signature win!
Ohio State (11-2/7-2) Blown out 38-15
Purdue- (1-11/0-9) Worst team in B1G
Notre Dame- crushed, if you don't count garbage time points.

They literally played all of the worst teams in the B1,G except Wisconsin, none with winning records.
Their OOC schedule was hilariously weak, with no P5 opponents.
When they played anybody good, they lost huge, and barely scraped by beating Michigan, who was playing with a scrub QB and barely beat MSU.

 

[jtung230]

Iowa State and BYU, and they crushed K-State, a team RU lost to. But I guess under your premise that the B12 sucks, that is not good.
Texas Tech was 8-4/6-3, not a terrible team.

Indiana's wins:
FIU (3-5/4-8) CUSA
W Illinois (4-8) FCS
UCLA (5-7/3-6) tied for 4th worst team in B1G
Charlotte (5-7/4-4) AAC
Maryland (4-8/1-8) 2nd worst team in B1G
NW (4-8/2-7) 3rd worst team in B1G
Nebraska (6-6/3-6) 6th worst team in B1G
Washington (6-6/4-5) middle of pack B1G team
Michigan State (5-7/3-6) tied for 4th worst team in B1G
Michigan (7-5/5-4)- Their signature win!
Ohio State (11-2/7-2) Blown out 38-15
Purdue- (1-11/0-9) Worst team in B1G
Notre Dame- crushed, if you don't count garbage time points.

They literally played all of the worst teams in the B1,G except Wisconsin, none with winning records.
Their OOC schedule was hilariously weak, with no P5 opponents.
When they played anybody good, they lost huge, and barely scraped by beating Michigan, who was playing with a scrub QB and barely beat MSU.

I just don’t subscribed to the SEC argument that only good wins count and losses don’t. I notice you casually left out the L to Cincy.

 

[gtbb3115]

Sanders brought 2 Top 10 picks in the NFL with him. Cignetti brought a slew of James Madison players to fill out IU's roster.

The best comparison will be made next year, when neither of those things wil

O line and D lines were bad. They improved from last year but still bad. They couldn’t run the ball. They couldn’t stop the run. You can only hide that so much with two top 10 talents

I do agree. Next year will say more about their coaching.

 

[Knight Shift]

I just don’t subscribed to the SEC argument that only good wins count and losses don’t. I notice you casually left out the L to Cincy.

No, you covered the loss to Cincy 16 times already. 🙃
I figured you would bring up the "SEC argument." But that argument is a false equivalence to Arizona State.

The SEC got 3 teams into the CFP Field.
Alabama argued that they should be in, but they had 3 losses. ASU had 2. One could argue Alabama had 2 crappy losses and ASU had one.
And crybaby head coach Visor of Ole Miss lost to crappy Florida and crappy Kentucky plus a third loss to LSU.

Again, it is a false equivalence because Bama and Ole Miss each had 3 losses, 2 bad ones. ASU had 2 losses, one bad one.

Your argument seems to be an anti-Animal Farm argument that all conferences are not equal.

 

[jtung230]

No, you covered the loss to Cincy 16 times already. 🙃
I figured you would bring up the "SEC argument." But that argument is a false equivalence to Arizona State.

The SEC got 3 teams into the CFP Field.
Alabama argued that they should be in, but they had 3 losses. ASU had 2. One could argue Alabama had 2 crappy losses and ASU had one.
And crybaby head coach Visor of Ole Miss lost to crappy Florida and crappy Kentucky plus a third loss to LSU.

Again, it is a false equivalence because Bama and Ole Miss each had 3 losses, 2 bad ones. ASU had 2 losses, one bad one.

Your argument seems to be an anti-Animal Farm argument that all conferences are not equal.

Feel like you are moving the goal post. The discussion was who did a better job between the two coaches. My vote goes to Cignetti because he had a better year. He beat everyone that’s not in the CFP playoffs decisively. ASU had 2 losses to non-CFP playoff teams and one was a sub 500 team. I have no issues with both teams in the CFP. Of course if ASU beats Texas, I will change my vote.

 

[ashokan]

Sanders brought 2 Top 10 picks in the NFL with him. Cignetti brought a slew of James Madison players to fill out IU's roster.

The best comparison will be made next year, when neither of those things will happen.

Sanders was able to "bring" the Rivals #1 2022 recruit in the nation to Colorado because of who he is. He first got Travis to come to Jackson St. because of being a HOF player who went both ways (as well as doing 2 major sports). Another reason Hunter went with Sanders twice (Col after Jackson) was being religious. Its not like Sanders "just got lucky." Travis could have played anywhere he wanted.

Indiana has 65th best rush offense - Col was dead last at 135. Cignetti's James Madison players are probably better than many at Col.

 

[Knight Shift]

Sanders brought 2 Top 10 picks in the NFL with him. Cignetti brought a slew of James Madison players to fill out IU's roster.

The best comparison will be made next year, when neither of those things will happen.

Can Rutgers hire Sanders to coach RU's men's basketball team starting now? 😉

 

[jtung230]

Can Rutgers hire Sanders to coach RU's men's basketball team starting now? 😉

Way too soon

 

[Knight Shift]

Way too soon

Just so you all don't think I'm completely off the rails, that post was a total joke, but some of the hard core hoops fans may consider it!

 

[MADHAT1]

Can Rutgers hire Sanders to coach RU's men's basketball team starting now? 😉

You must be kidding, the RU WBB team needs some Prime Time