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List some groups that wow you.

Have seen a lot of of up and coming groups in club shows that have wowed me over the years. Many of them will never be considered legends or achieve mass fame, and many have already faded/ retired. But I like a lot of hard rock, metal and punk bands. Some that have wow'd:
Rollins Band
Orange 9 mm
Clutch
Korn before they got popular
Slipknot
Marilyn Manson
Gwar
Slayer
Metallica in the early 1990's (wish I saw them in the 80's)
John Eddie
Goo Goo Dolls before they went pop
Meat Loaf in the 1980's
Springsteen continues to wow when he is not talking politics
Clutch
Ned's Atomic Dustbin
Corrosion of Conformity
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Went to see Corrosion of Conformity last week at the Wonder Bar in Asbury. Opening band was called Mothership-a three piece out of Dallas, Texas. Their sound is a mix of Sabbath, ZZ Top and Iron Maiden. They have 2 albums out. These guys played like they were playing to a sold out stadium and absolutely killed it. Their lead guitarist was jaw dropping over the top.Here's a performance from 2014. Go to 4:00



Recently some things I have seen that were really great:

Disclosure
The Heavy
Leon Knight (big things ahead for this kid. Ironically a cross between James Brown and Prince)
Jesse Jo Stark
Florence and the Machine (see live if given the chance)
Rufus Du Sol
James Bay
Le Youth
Naked and Famous
Bonobo
Rancid
Galant
George Ezra
Jack White
Arcade Fire
M83
Matt and Kim
Chvrches (really incredible live)
Chet Faker
Kasbian
Milky Chance
Christine and the Queens
Alabama Shakes

These are just off the top of my head. All were really good live.
 
Full length Prince concert at the Capitol Theater in Passaic-1980

"FULL LENGTH is 1 hour and 7 minutes? Wow, that is stingy.
Recently some things I have seen that were really great:

Disclosure
The Heavy
Leon Knight (big things ahead for this kid. Ironically a cross between James Brown and Prince)
Jesse Jo Stark
Florence and the Machine (see live if given the chance)
Rufus Du Sol
James Bay
Le Youth
Naked and Famous
Bonobo
Rancid
Galant
George Ezra
Jack White
Arcade Fire
M83
Matt and Kim
Chvrches (really incredible live)
Chet Faker
Kasbian
Milky Chance
Christine and the Queens
Alabama Shakes

These are just off the top of my head. All were really good live.
That's a quite a list, of which I recognize The Heavy, Naked and Famous, Ranci, Jack White, Arcade Fire, Chvrches, Alabama Shakes and Matt and Kim.

Have you seen Muse live? Have heard incredible reviews. I am sort of a fan of their music, and feel the need to check them out live.
LOL on Bonobo. Googled Bonobo, and got:
Bonobo-Junior.jpg
 
Recently some things I have seen that were really great:

Disclosure
The Heavy
Leon Knight (big things ahead for this kid. Ironically a cross between James Brown and Prince)
Jesse Jo Stark
Florence and the Machine (see live if given the chance)
Rufus Du Sol
James Bay
Le Youth
Naked and Famous
Bonobo
Rancid
Galant
George Ezra
Jack White
Arcade Fire
M83
Matt and Kim
Chvrches (really incredible live)
Chet Faker
Kasbian
Milky Chance
Christine and the Queens
Alabama Shakes

These are just off the top of my head. All were really good live.

Leon Knight has potential, but I'll take Leon Bridges over him right now. His retro-soul/R&B album from last year is evocative of the best of artists like Al Green and Stevie Wonder.

On your list, have seen: Florence, Naked & Famous, Rancid (many times, back in the 90s - one of my all-time favorite bands, as I love ska, but they're not going to get bigger), Jack White/White Stripes (possibly my favorite artist of the last 15 years), Arcade Fire, M83, Matt & Kim, Chvrches, Kasabian, and Alabama Shakes. Liked most of them a lot, although I'd say only Jack White, Arcade Fire, and maybe Florence and Alabama Shakes have the potential to be huge (or already are).

I'll try to post later on some of my favorites from the last 10 years or so, although most of them will likely never be "huge" bands, IMO, as I tend to go see smaller bands in smaller venues. as I love the intimacy of smaller venues and the possibility of catching that next U2, REM, White Stripes, or NJ's own Titus Andronicus (my favorite live band, who have a decent following, but haven't quite become big yet) on their way up.

The fundamental "problem," if you will, with today's music is that it is so splintered into sub-genres that very little music gets cross-cultural play/exposure. If you look at a top 40 list from the 60s, 70s or 80s, the top songs represented a very wide range of genres vs. now, where the top 40 are almost all pop versions of hip-hop, country, electronic, alternative or pure pop - you just don't get the breadth you had back in the day when you had the Beatles, Sly, James Brown, Simon & Garfunkel, Johnny Cash, Aretha Franklin, Bowie, and the Who - and everyone got to hear these bands, as opposed to now, where a much smaller percentage of people listen to top 40 songs.
 
Leon Knight has potential, but I'll take Leon Bridges over him right now. His retro-soul/R&B album from last year is evocative of the best of artists like Al Green and Stevie Wonder.

On your list, have seen: Florence, Naked & Famous, .

Love Tiesto/Hardwell remix of "Young Blood." Beautiful lyrics and remix matches the tone set by them IMHO.
 
Recently some things I have seen that were really great:

Disclosure
The Heavy
Leon Knight (big things ahead for this kid. Ironically a cross between James Brown and Prince)
Jesse Jo Stark
Florence and the Machine (see live if given the chance)
Rufus Du Sol
James Bay
Le Youth
Naked and Famous
Bonobo
Rancid
Galant
George Ezra
Jack White
Arcade Fire
M83
Matt and Kim
Chvrches (really incredible live)
Chet Faker
Kasbian
Milky Chance
Christine and the Queens
Alabama Shakes

These are just off the top of my head. All were really good live.


its a nice list and I like some of them especially Florence and M83 but alot of these including Florence whose last cd even though it sold well really failed to make an impact with a notable single, have peaked or limited in audience potential. I dont think the argument is being put out that there are not decent solid acts out there to see or buy their music, its that who are going to be considered the classics that trancend decades..its not about a 10 year run, history is full of bands and artists with 10-15 year runs
 
I am really impressed with the amount of work and talent these kids have now. Diplo stayed next to us this past weekend and my buddy manages a kid who is about to launch and stayed with him, so we spent some time at the house. The work ethic these kids all have their interest in all music, not to mention their own music ability, is pretty cool to see. Music builds off of other music, and that will never stop.

As far as classics, I don't know. With the amount of music out now, it is hard to stay on top of the game. Led Zepplin is amazing. Maybe my favorite band. If they came out today, they wouldn't be Led Zepplin. There is far more competition now.

I will say this. I saw the Rolling Stones in Australia in 1995. Every band I listed above and I could name another 25 easily that would wipe the floor with them. If you can't put it down live, you can't be one of the greatest bands ever.
 
I am really impressed with the amount of work and talent these kids have now. Diplo stayed next to us this past weekend and my buddy manages a kid who is about to launch and stayed with him, so we spent some time at the house. The work ethic these kids all have their interest in all music, not to mention their own music ability, is pretty cool to see. Music builds off of other music, and that will never stop.

As far as classics, I don't know. With the amount of music out now, it is hard to stay on top of the game. Led Zepplin is amazing. Maybe my favorite band. If they came out today, they wouldn't be Led Zepplin. There is far more competition now.

I will say this. I saw the Rolling Stones in Australia in 1995. Every band I listed above and I could name another 25 easily that would wipe the floor with them. If you can't put it down live, you can't be one of the greatest bands ever.


apples and oranges...you saw the Stones in 95 when they were at least 20 years past their prime. I imagine that if you saw some of your other acts when they are in their 50s rather than 20s and 30s you might not be as wowed. The Who, the Stones, McCartney all brought in their prime, I have seen too much footage to think otherwise. No doubt they have all lost steps especially voice wise and its just nostalgia carrying them...but the fact is nostalgia is worth a lot. Madonna has like the top grossing tours even though she is not in her prime and has no new material of impact. When you can bring in top 5 huge concert revenue like Bruce, Madonna and some of the other classic bands without having current material, it makes you a classic without question.
 
apples and oranges...you saw the Stones in 95 when they were at least 20 years past their prime. I imagine that if you saw some of your other acts when they are in their 50s rather than 20s and 30s you might not be as wowed. The Who, the Stones, McCartney all brought in their prime, I have seen too much footage to think otherwise. No doubt they have all lost steps especially voice wise and its just nostalgia carrying them...but the fact is nostalgia is worth a lot. Madonna has like the top grossing tours even though she is not in her prime and has no new material of impact. When you can bring in top 5 huge concert revenue like Bruce, Madonna and some of the other classic bands without having current material, it makes you a classic without question.

Not really.

As I mentioned early in the thread, I saw the Stones in '81 at the Superdome. Huge tour, huge show - at the time it was the largest indoor concert in history (over 100k).

Keith was reading sheet music taped to the floor.

You'd think a guy who has played a song 10,000 times might know the chords, ya know?
 
I would also put Lady GaGa in the same sentence as Aretha Franklin. GaGa is incredibly, incredibly talented. As much as Aretha Franklin? Absolutely.

Calvin Harris is much more than a DJ. He is a song writer and producer. The dude is absolutely killing it across the board. Being a DJ is about a 10th of what he does.

It's the way the world works. If millions more people think Beiber is better than Lennon, then he is. But I don't believe that is the case.


disagree with GaGa..alot of hype but substance wise still lacking..she certainly has been able to diversify herself that is keeping her in the game but her last cd flopped big time so she is at a crossroads musically. No way comparison with Aretha, GaGa is basically a millenial version of others like Dale Bozzio, Madonna, Grace Jones, Terri Nunn...all of who did it better in another era. What is her masterpiece..Poker Face...gimme a break. She needs a Ray of Light effort or she becomes another Britney Spears or Alanis slowly fading into obscurity
 
Not really.

As I mentioned early in the thread, I saw the Stones in '81 at the Superdome. Huge tour, huge show - at the time it was the largest indoor concert in history (over 100k).

Keith was reading sheet music taped to the floor.

You'd think a guy who has played a song 10,000 times might know the chords, ya know?


still not their prime though...listen if you want to believe bullshit that M83 or Naked and Famous puts on a better show than the Stones/Who in their prime or Diplo does by leading a molly infused dance rave be my guest
 

As I mentioned early in the thread, I saw the Stones in '81 at the Superdome. Huge tour, huge show - at the time it was the largest indoor concert in history (over 100k).

Keith was reading sheet music taped to the floor.

You'd think a guy who has played a song 10,000 times might know the chords, ya know?[/QUOTE]

I'm surprised he could read.
 
still not their prime though...listen if you want to believe bullshit that M83 or Naked and Famous puts on a better show than the Stones/Who in their prime or Diplo does by leading a molly infused dance rave be my guest

Find where I even came close to suggesting that last part. I think you started drinking too early tonight.

In 1981 the Stones were in their 30s and 40s. They were very much "in their prime" in the grand scheme of performing musicians.

The fact is, as individual musicians, no member of the band is considered at the top of his field. Don't get me wrong, I love the Stones, I love their music. But as musicians, they're right up there with Gene, Peter, Paul and Ace.
 
Hey, as long as we've got so many music aficionados on this thread, what I'm looking for is a rock band that has a really good brass section with it. I'm thinking Amy Winehouse or Southside Johnny sort of thing more than BST or Chicago.

Any suggestions?
 
Find where I even came close to suggesting that last part. I think you started drinking too early tonight.

In 1981 the Stones were in their 30s and 40s. They were very much "in their prime" in the grand scheme of performing musicians.

The fact is, as individual musicians, no member of the band is considered at the top of his field. Don't get me wrong, I love the Stones, I love their music. But as musicians, they're right up there with Gene, Peter, Paul and Ace.


when I mean their prime I mean back in the late 60s to maybe mid 70s. I think these bands tend to slack off as they get older and by the time they are geriatrics they are just shells of themselves. I would imagine once you have played a song a million times it just doesnt have the emotion you get when you have performed it only a dozen times. New acts are of course going to sound fresh. No one wants to hear new songs by old artists, they will pick up and head to the bathroom. I saw some Billy Joel concert on MSG and couldnt believe how awful he sounded yet the crowd was orgasming. You dont have to be the best muscians but you need to be able to master and control the crowd and some of the classic acts have that down pat.
 
when I mean their prime I mean back in the late 60s to maybe mid 70s. I think these bands tend to slack off as they get older and by the time they are geriatrics they are just shells of themselves. I would imagine once you have played a song a million times it just doesnt have the emotion you get when you have performed it only a dozen times. New acts are of course going to sound fresh. No one wants to hear new songs by old artists, they will pick up and head to the bathroom. I saw some Billy Joel concert on MSG and couldnt believe how awful he sounded yet the crowd was orgasming. You dont have to be the best muscians but you need to be able to master and control the crowd and some of the classic acts have that down pat.

It was an album tour.
 
ru@bur, What a great recommendation! These guys are terrific. Just what I was looking for. And the idea of an overweight white guy who was going to be an accountant singing soul is hilarious. Pleased to have given you your first "like." Thanks a million!

They are actually really good. Great find.
 
Yesterday was a tough day for music. Totally overshadowed by Prince's untimely demise was the sad news of Lonnie Mack's passing. The "Guitar Heroes Guitar Hero". He did it first and they all studied him. Check this out: Stop. Obit in today's NY Times
 
ru@bur, What a great recommendation! These guys are terrific. Just what I was looking for. And the idea of an overweight white guy who was going to be an accountant singing soul is hilarious. Pleased to have given you your first "like." Thanks a million!

Glad you liked them, they are very good. If you are wanting horns in the mix you can't go wrong with Steely Dan. The guys they use are world class players. This one is fun: Babylon Sisters, make sure you look away when the camera zooms in on Donald Fagen, but pay close attention to the backup singers.
 
ru@bur, What a great recommendation! These guys are terrific. Just what I was looking for. And the idea of an overweight white guy who was going to be an accountant singing soul is hilarious. Pleased to have given you your first "like." Thanks a million!

Big fan of St. Paul & The Broken Bones. If you like them, give Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings a listen - Sharon Jones is a force of nature and the backing band, including horns, sizzles. Saw them in Montreal about 8 years ago, having never heard of them and were blown away.

Also, as I said in an earlier post, if you haven't heard him, give Leon Bridges a listen. He's had much more success than Sharon Jones, but isn't a household name either - haven't had the pleasure of seeing him live yet. I linked videos from both, below.



 
Big fan of St. Paul & The Broken Bones. If you like them, give Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings a listen - Sharon Jones is a force of nature and the backing band, including horns, sizzles. Saw them in Montreal about 8 years ago, having never heard of them and were blown away.

Also, as I said in an earlier post, if you haven't heard him, give Leon Bridges a listen. He's had much more success than Sharon Jones, but isn't a household name either - haven't had the pleasure of seeing him live yet. I linked videos from both, below.



Thanks, Numb3rs! Two great clips! Sharon Jones blew me away! You know she is going to carry every one of those notes and play them for all their worth. Thanks for sharing these!
 
I'm over it - the dude was 57 partying like he was 27...live by the sword - die by the sword.

Was never a big fan but to his fans - what was his last good song 25 years ago?
 
Anyone on the level of Prince and Mike Jackson has signed a contract and when that contract is due...you gotta pay the tab. Do I believe Katy Perry - Jay Z- Bob Dylan have signed a contract with the Devil - no but more importantly - they do!

Peace out

 
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Glad you liked them, they are very good. If you are wanting horns in the mix you can't go wrong with Steely Dan. The guys they use are world class players. This one is fun: Babylon Sisters, make sure you look away when the camera zooms in on Donald Fagen, but pay close attention to the backup singers.

Big Fan of The Dan here.
 
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Boss honors drug addict and cancels a show over who uses what bathroom. Wonder if he cares about college cheating scandals. Priceless rep of NJ attitudes.
 
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Big fan of St. Paul & The Broken Bones. If you like them, give Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings a listen - Sharon Jones is a force of nature and the backing band, including horns, sizzles. Saw them in Montreal about 8 years ago, having never heard of them and were blown away.

Also, as I said in an earlier post, if you haven't heard him, give Leon Bridges a listen. He's had much more success than Sharon Jones, but isn't a household name either - haven't had the pleasure of seeing him live yet. I linked videos from both, below.




I love what Leon Bridges is bringing, but I'd never heard of Sharon Jones. I have heard her song in a tv commercial, though. Good stuff for sure. Thanks.
 
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Big Fan of The Dan here.

I miss the days when good brass sections were front and center (Well, not literally front and center, but you know what I mean).

Chicago
Earth, Wind and Fire
Confunksion
Ohio Players

to name a few

True musicianship has no rivals. There's something to be said for the discipline and dedication it takes to actually learn to read, write and play music. I envy those who do it and do it well.
 
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I miss the days when good brass sections were front and center (Well, not literally front and center, but you know what I mean).

Chicago
Earth, Wind and Fire
Confunksion
Ohio Players

to name a few

True musicianship has no rivals. There's something to be said for the discipline and dedication it takes to actually learn to read, write and play music. I envy those who do it and do it well.


Check out The Heavy and Bonobo (non dj set).
 
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