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OT: Retiring early

I've always had aspirations of retiring in my 40's as there's so much else I want to do in life that work prohibits, both from a time and monetary standpoint.
Then I got married, bought a house and had a child and while that doesn't seem realistic now, retiring in my early - mid 50's is the goal.

We do the traditional saving methods - Roth IRAs, Roth 401 K's, 403-B, and mix in some life insurance we can cash out
Barring something crazy, we'll likely get a modest amount when our parents pass away, and have a decent SS paycheck when it comes time for that
My wife will also have a pension, but accessing that anytime before 55 is a 3 % / year reduction in the amount (also needs to put 25 years in teaching, or reach 55)

We do ok financially - nothing over the top, but not going homeless either
Could probably have some nicer things, but prefer to save $ right now (but not at the expense of vacations, sporting events, Broadway shows, etc.) - more in the realm of pre-owned cars, not going out to eat 4 times a week and having a nice but not over the top wardrobe (nothing wrong w/nice things, just using this as an example)

For those of you that have been able to retire at that age, or at/near 60, what was your methodology?
Was it saving, investing, real estate, inheritance, making big $ for a lot of years, invented or patented something, owned/sold a business or some sort of combination?
As others have said I think a lot depends on your lifestyle. A few mentioned they have a goal of $6mm for retirement - that's amazing, but also seems like a ton to me personally and my needs. The general rule of thumb is to figure on a 3%-4% withdrawal rate per year of whatever your nest egg is for budgeting purposes.

As I can now definitely see the retirement light at the end of the working tunnel, I definitely also think about what I'm going to do with my time. This job that I used to think about quitting all the time when I first started has now become not so bad. I work from home, and the stress and pay is not so bad. I think about maybe going into business for myself in this industry once I retire, but then I think do I really want to bring on more stress? Anyway the time, and how to still feel productive is the big question now.

I would also HIGHLY recommend using a financial planner - I found a great one who is very affordable. I check in with him once a year to make sure everything is on track - and he can also run all kinds of retirement scenarios. Anyway again can't beat this bang for the buck.....https://planvisionmn.com/
 
I've always had aspirations of retiring in my 40's as there's so much else I want to do in life that work prohibits, both from a time and monetary standpoint.
Then I got married, bought a house and had a child and while that doesn't seem realistic now, retiring in my early - mid 50's is the goal.

We do the traditional saving methods - Roth IRAs, Roth 401 K's, 403-B, and mix in some life insurance we can cash out
Barring something crazy, we'll likely get a modest amount when our parents pass away, and have a decent SS paycheck when it comes time for that
My wife will also have a pension, but accessing that anytime before 55 is a 3 % / year reduction in the amount (also needs to put 25 years in teaching, or reach 55)

We do ok financially - nothing over the top, but not going homeless either
Could probably have some nicer things, but prefer to save $ right now (but not at the expense of vacations, sporting events, Broadway shows, etc.) - more in the realm of pre-owned cars, not going out to eat 4 times a week and having a nice but not over the top wardrobe (nothing wrong w/nice things, just using this as an example)

For those of you that have been able to retire at that age, or at/near 60, what was your methodology?
Was it saving, investing, real estate, inheritance, making big $ for a lot of years, invented or patented something, owned/sold a business or some sort of combination?
Sounds like you're doing most of the things you need to. I also couldn't wait to retire, as I liked work, but I love my hobbies and since retiring 4 years ago at 57, I've really indulged them. While the pandemic put the kibosh on our travel plans for awhile, I've been having a blast playing disc golf 4-5 days a week (about 3-4 hours for travel and to play typically), including many tournaments on the weekends (those are all day affairs), plus I've picked regular golf back up a bit and started playing weekly soccer again on Sunday mornings last year, plus there's softball in the spring/summer. In addition, my wife and I do about one day trip per week within a 1 hour drive (or train if we go into the City), plus we eat out several nights a week, including going out with friends at least once a week. We're hoping to start traveling more extensively this year: Europe trip in the works and we go to Vero Beach 2x a year to see my dad and my sister who live there, as my dad can't really travel anymore.

We also started playing poker weekly when the pandemic hit, as our group of 8, which has been playing monthly since the late 1980s, had more free time and one of the guys in the group took a rudimentary poker game in the Steam gaming environment and programmed the shit out of it, creating a game that's way better than any other on-line games, as it's free and it automatically deals any of our ~20 games with betting, folding, shuffling and pot-splitting (high low games) all automated, so it's even significantly faster than our in-person game. And we're on Zoom the whole time so the connection/banter is still there. Now we play in-person monthly and on-line monthly - and I often go to the casino to play on the off weeks.

And then there's my weather hobby (obsession? lol) as people see here (and in about 4 other places) and my music hobby, DJ-ing several events per year, still, plus going to see bigger shows several times a year, plus local acts periodically and, of course, my RU sports fanaticism with a group of 12 for football and a group of 4 for hoops - and this board and TOS - and other social media sites like FB. I also do some volunteering as I'm on the RU Chem/Biochem Eng'g Dept's Industrial Advisory Board, plus I do some info sessions and student mentoring and my wife and I do some local volunteer activities in town.

Financially, the most important thing anyone can do, IMO (apart from never, ever, ever carrying credit card debt, which is the worst thing anyone can do), is to save as much as you can from day one of working which we both did - it's especially important to max out with any 401K/IRA contributions (not just for a company match but the max amount one can, legally or at least the most one can afford). That wasn't hard for my wife and I, as we got used to living off of my tiny stipend from RU while in grad school and her fairly low income at the time - and then when I started working at Merck for a lot more $$ ($55K to start in 1989), we put most of that away from the beginning.

We ate out a lot and traveled some, still, but were thrifty in other areas - for example, we almost never bought new cars (just once) and drove them until they died, we furnished our house mostly from death, divorce and estate/garage sales (my wife got some amazing stuff at 10-20% of cost at estate sales), and we never spent much at all on clothes or jewelry (I probably never spent more than $200/year on clothes, since I went to work in jeans and an oxford shirt, generally). Over decades, I'm sure that saved us a ton.

We invested our 401K money pretty aggressively until we hit about 50, when we started going more conservative (some bonds/bond funds), as our goal shifted towards preservation. It also helped a lot to work for a company with a defined benefit pension plan, which I was originally going to take as a monthly annuity, but in early 2022, I could see inflation was coming and might get bad, so since I had been sitting on the pension, I decided to take the lump sum right then and there before it went down by quite a bit with rising interest rates (lump sum amounts changed quarterly and I would've lost over $300K from the lump sum if I had waited another month to execute the lump sum) and we rolled it over with our financial advisor into a mixture of mostly bonds and some stocks, since at 59 preservation was absolutely our goal over growth (which comes with more risk and we didn't need more $$, we just didn't want to lose what we had if there was a big market drop). Even invested conservatively, we've made far more in 2 years than the zero we would've made on the pension annuity, which had no COLA associated with it.

I was also fortunate to have my best friend as my boss my last 5 years (I kind of got him the job, so he was always grateful), meaning I did very well at a senior director level with regard to bonuses/raises, but more importantly, he knew I was thinking about retiring in my late 50s, so when he came to me in early 2019 asking if I would want to retire with a very nice separation package (1.5 years of salary) I jumped at it and retired in early 2020 - and then they hired me back as a consultant at a 25% higher rate for ~20 hours a week right at the start of the pandemic, so I did that for my first 18 months of retirement, but have been 100% done with work for 2.5 years now, despite still getting offers to do consulting. I don't miss it at all apart from the people - and I still get to see a bunch of the folks I worked with as I'm close by, plus they still invite me to the holiday and summer BBQ parties (which I still DJ). The one thing I still miss, though, is working with groups of talented people to solve really difficult technical/project problems, especially when we were all under the gun and working like maniacs to figure things out.

At this point, we're living off of monthly disbursements from our various IRA funds at a level just a bit above our after tax income when I retired and despite having to withdraw from that our overall funds have increased in value above that cost. We also had enough liquidity to put about $70K into the house over the past 2 years for some much needed renovations (complete remodels of the 2 upstairs bathrooms and a complete remodel of our family room with very nice new furniture for a change, plus repainting of every room in the house) and we're planning on a complete redo of the backyard (~$70K to take out the old deck, put in a new large stone patio and do a bunch of landscaping and other stuff). Probably won't take our SS until 70 on the advice of our FA, who basically said that if you don't need it, wait to take it as you'll get more, overall, by the time you're 80 and beyond - sure there's some risk of not getting to 80, but from our perspective, SS is a bonus and just in case our estimates of things are off and we end up having a much tighter situation, we'll appreciate having more $$ overall by waiting (we'd get an extra $400K by the age of 92 if we wait until we're 70 to take it vs. 62).

Our other major asset is our house, which is worth close to $1MM now (crazy, as we bought it for $250K in 1993) and is 100% paid off. In addition, as per my other post, one other benefit of working for a pharma company is that our retirement health care is essentially the same as it was as an employee and while it's more than it was as an employee, it's still reasonably cheap ($800/month for my wife and I) vs. the open market and we'll have that until I'm 65 and have to go into the Medicare pool. Given that our overall assets are in pretty good shape, we've started donating more to groups that mean a lot to us, including RU, where my old boss and I - he also got his PhD in chem eng'g from RU - established a $50K endowed scholarship 4 years ago. And we started gifting our son this year so can get at least some of his inheritance at a lower tax rate (and when he can really use it), as the pre-tax IRAs he inherits (much of our portfolio) will need to be cashed out over 10 years, which will likely mean some higher taxes on that - it's still way better than getting nothing though, lol. My wife and I can gift him up to $36K/year tax-free - we did around $20K this year to start.

One more thing. It'll probably come as no surprise, but there's no way we're leaving NJ, especially for anywhere warmer - the furthest away I'd ever consider is NWNJ to get more snow, lol.
 
Set a realistic budget and make sure your money earning 3 to 5% can cover it.
That makes the most sense to me. Take your anticipated yearly expense, add 20% for buffer and divide by 3%. That should be a safe goal. For those who are using investment income to pay for retirement should remember that there will be a capital gains tax (either short term or long term) when withdrawing those funds.
 
That’s why I phrased the question the way I did. It all depends on burn rate. The person with 20+ million didn’t change their lifestyle. And lived their life like they were still bringing in a 7 figure salary. But someone like yourself with 2 pensions will need a lot less.

But everyone’s needs, desires are different. Therefore everyone’s numbers will be different. But I’ve seen people retirement blown up in the first 3 years because that usually is the highest burn rate.
All true here; for most people that even consider retirement around 60, you’ll probably need $3.5-$4 million(death at age 90). That means living comfortably but within you means, spending and traveling more in the first 10 years then the last, etc. If you have permanent life insurance and it will paid up by retirement, you may want to keep that and not cash it in, just for backup and/or being able to leave that for the kids, while using the other money for the two of you.
 
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Best advice I ever got was max out your 401K and don't touch it. I don't think that message gets said enough, especially to those people who are starting their careers now.
Money management and investing is really simple once you peel back the first layer of the onion. Definitely do any kind of 401K match your company is offering, and obviously do as much as you can after that, Max out Roth IRAs, etc.. The main thing is to stay consistent and disciplined, set it and forget it, time IN the market/not timing the market! Best simple money management person I've seen is Dave Ramsey - I don't necessarily agree with his investment advice, as I'm a boring Index fund guy. But again the main thing is it's not so important what you invest in (Crypto and other fringe investments the exception) as long as you are consistent and disciplined through good and bad!
 
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Lots of people get bored in retirement because they had no plan to replace what work provides. This includes social connections, purpose, filling up time, and financial resources.
Absolutely. I know people that fit into that description as well. C suite exec retired at 50 got tired and bored very quickly. Back to work within 2 years in a lower position because he didn’t realize he was running from the “office grind” of his title. Wanted to be back on a desk eating what he killed. Was back in office 2-3 days a week and made more money than most who were there full time.
 
There is a Jamaican food truck on 48th and Park Ave that serves a curry goat. They used to have the best fried chicken because they fried it the old school way.
Used to work at 280 Park and would hit that Jamaican place every so often. Delicious. That and the Greek truck were my favs.
 
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I am almost 5 years into retirement having retired "early" at 61 by choice. I made a good living in the insurance industry for 40 years, always maxed out 401k/IRA contributions and invested 100% in equity funds until last 5 years before retirement when I switched to retirement age managed funds. Never had debt other than home mortgage and minimal student loan from RU education. Paid off mortgage before retiring so was carrying zero debt. While I am blessed with a substantial 401k, I anticipate it will probably go to my children unused other than mandatory withdrawals. That's my financial situation in a nutshell.
I can only offer a few suggestions which may or not be helpful.

1) Create a detailed budget of your post retirement minimum annual expenses for your lifestyle to see if it is realistic. Do not forget adequate savings you can attach for unexpected expenses (such as my nearly $40k for unanticipated dental implants). For me that is only $36,000 to cover all the tax, insurance, food, utilities, internet, car, etc. basics. I live off of withdrawals from CD proceeds taken at annual maturity. My taxable income is therefore only the annual interest on the CD, which for me means no income tax until I start with mandatory SS and 401k withdrawals at age 70/73. My social security benefit table shows $57k a year at age 70 (which will be higher at that time), well above my expenses.

2) Health Insurance: I continued with my employer's plan for a year via COBRA. I then found that I was eligible for NJ FamilyCare (Medicaid) at 62 at no cost as eligibility is based on taxable income only, which for me is presently negligible. At 65 you have to enroll in Medicare, which is $3,400 annual for me for the basic, supplementals and drug coverage. $760 for my dental insurance. So, if you can live off of non-taxable income this can be a big factor in the ability to retire early.

3) While I had a good job and generally pleasant work environment, 40 years was enough for me and I was determined to start enjoying retirement as soon as feasible. I did find the first few years a difficult adjustment with too much free time on my hands. If you have a tendency towards vices such as alcohol abuse, this can become very problematic as I quickly learned. While the lifestyle adjustment continues, I have found myself taking on healthier pursuits like long daily walks, swimming and learning jazz guitar after 50+ years of rock and roll only. Admittedly, the internet fills up (too) much of my time, but hell you can do that all you want in retirement. In any case, as many others have posted, do not underestimate the adjustment to all the free time you will have on your hands and what you may need to keep you feeling fulfilled in your golden years.
 
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I am almost 5 years into retirement having retired "early" at 61 by choice. I made a good living in the insurance industry for 40 years, always maxed out 401k/IRA contributions and invested 100% in equity funds until last 5 years before retirement when I switched to retirement age managed funds. Never had debt other than home mortgage and minimal student loan from RU education. Paid off mortgage before retiring so was carrying zero debt. While I am blessed with a substantial 401k, I anticipate it will probably go to my children unused other than mandatory withdrawals. That's my financial situation in a nutshell.
I can only offer a few suggestions which may or not be helpful.

1) Create a detailed budget of your post retirement minimal annual expenses for your lifestyle to see if it is realistic. Do not forget adequate savings you can attach for unexpected expenses (such as my nearly $40k for unanticipated dental implants). For me that is only $36,000 to cover all the tax, insurance, food, utilities, internet, car, etc. basics. I live off of withdrawals from CD proceeds taken at annual maturity. My taxable income is therefore only the annual interest on the CD, which for me means no income tax until I start with mandatory SS and 401k withdrawals at age 70/73. My social security benefit table shows $57k a year at age 70 (which will be higher at that time), well above my expenses.

2) Health Insurance: I continued with my employer's plan for a year via COBRA. I then found that I was eligible for NJ FamilyCare (Medicaid) at 62 at no cost as eligibility is based on taxable income only, which for me is presently negligible. At 65 you have to enroll in Medicare, which is $3,400 annual for me for the basic, supplementals and drug coverage. $760 for my dental insurance. So, if you can live off of non-taxable income this can be a big factor in the ability to retire early.

3) While I had a good job and generally pleasant work environment, 40 years was enough for me and I was determined to start enjoying retirement as soon as feasible. I did find the first few years a difficult adjustment with too much free time on my hands. If you have a tendency towards vices such as alcohol abuse, this can become very problematic as I quickly learned. While the lifestyle adjustment continues, I have found myself taking on healthier pursuits like long daily walks, swimming and learning jazz guitar after 50+ years of rock and roll only. Admittedly, the internet fills up (too) much of my time, but hell you can do that all you want in retirement. In any case, as many others have posted, do not underestimate the adjustment to all the free time you will have on your hands and what you may need to keep you feeling fulfilled in your golden years.
Excellent advice, and love your avatar--Baba Booey to y'all!

Two questions, if you don't mind. Sounds like your expenses of $36,000 are for one person- is that correct. And what do you pay in property taxes?

As I noted above, me and the wife are real misers, and I suspect we can live on a budget not that far off from yours, except our property taxes are $12K, and the health insurance costs will be substantial. Will have to look into NJ Family Care as a bridge to Medicare- do they not look back at your previous years of income? If so, sign me up, I'm outta here!
 
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I am almost 5 years into retirement having retired "early" at 61 by choice. I made a good living in the insurance industry for 40 years, always maxed out 401k/IRA contributions and invested 100% in equity funds until last 5 years before retirement when I switched to retirement age managed funds. Never had debt other than home mortgage and minimal student loan from RU education. Paid off mortgage before retiring so was carrying zero debt. While I am blessed with a substantial 401k, I anticipate it will probably go to my children unused other than mandatory withdrawals. That's my financial situation in a nutshell.
I can only offer a few suggestions which may or not be helpful.

1) Create a detailed budget of your post retirement minimal annual expenses for your lifestyle to see if it is realistic. Do not forget adequate savings you can attach for unexpected expenses (such as my nearly $40k for unanticipated dental implants). For me that is only $36,000 to cover all the tax, insurance, food, utilities, internet, car, etc. basics. I live off of withdrawals from CD proceeds taken at annual maturity. My taxable income is therefore only the annual interest on the CD, which for me means no income tax until I start with mandatory SS and 401k withdrawals at age 70/73. My social security benefit table shows $57k a year at age 70 (which will be higher at that time), well above my expenses.

2) Health Insurance: I continued with my employer's plan for a year via COBRA. I then found that I was eligible for NJ FamilyCare (Medicaid) at 62 at no cost as eligibility is based on taxable income only, which for me is presently negligible. At 65 you have to enroll in Medicare, which is $3,400 annual for me for the basic, supplementals and drug coverage. $760 for my dental insurance. So, if you can live off of non-taxable income this can be a big factor in the ability to retire early.

3) While I had a good job and generally pleasant work environment, 40 years was enough for me and I was determined to start enjoying retirement as soon as feasible. I did find the first few years a difficult adjustment with too much free time on my hands. If you have a tendency towards vices such as alcohol abuse, this can become very problematic as I quickly learned. While the lifestyle adjustment continues, I have found myself taking on healthier pursuits like long daily walks, swimming and learning jazz guitar after 50+ years of rock and roll only. Admittedly, the internet fills up (too) much of my time, but hell you can do that all you want in retirement. In any case, as many others have posted, do not underestimate the adjustment to all the free time you will have on your hands and what you may need to keep you feeling fulfilled in your golden years.
Definitely one thing I want to do when I retire is learn to play guitar and become Bruce Springsteen - lol! It's good to hear that you, and someone else who posted earlier are doing the same, as in the back of my mind I thought I would be too old. Anyway thank you for your honest assessment of your retirement.
 
It amazed me to find out so many people did not contribute to their 401k to at least get the maximum match.

I never understand not taking free money
It is shocking how stupid some people are even while working in what you would consider a position that requires some brain. I hear about it where I work way too often
 
Best advice I ever got was max out your 401K and don't touch it. I don't think that message gets said enough, especially to those people who are starting their careers now.
First rule of compounding money, never interrupt the compounding! That's from Buffett or Munger, forgot which one.

UPDATE: Found the actual quote.

‘The first rule of compounding: never interrupt it unnecessarily.’ – Charlie Munger

:)
 
Congratulations to many of you on this thread.

Outside of the big salary people, it must have taken several years (decades?) of self-discipline to get to the position where a 4-6MM nest egg is a possibility/reality.
 
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I am almost 5 years into retirement having retired "early" at 61 by choice. I made a good living in the insurance industry for 40 years, always maxed out 401k/IRA contributions and invested 100% in equity funds until last 5 years before retirement when I switched to retirement age managed funds. Never had debt other than home mortgage and minimal student loan from RU education. Paid off mortgage before retiring so was carrying zero debt. While I am blessed with a substantial 401k, I anticipate it will probably go to my children unused other than mandatory withdrawals. That's my financial situation in a nutshell.
I can only offer a few suggestions which may or not be helpful.

1) Create a detailed budget of your post retirement minimal annual expenses for your lifestyle to see if it is realistic. Do not forget adequate savings you can attach for unexpected expenses (such as my nearly $40k for unanticipated dental implants). For me that is only $36,000 to cover all the tax, insurance, food, utilities, internet, car, etc. basics. I live off of withdrawals from CD proceeds taken at annual maturity. My taxable income is therefore only the annual interest on the CD, which for me means no income tax until I start with mandatory SS and 401k withdrawals at age 70/73. My social security benefit table shows $57k a year at age 70 (which will be higher at that time), well above my expenses.

2) Health Insurance: I continued with my employer's plan for a year via COBRA. I then found that I was eligible for NJ FamilyCare (Medicaid) at 62 at no cost as eligibility is based on taxable income only, which for me is presently negligible. At 65 you have to enroll in Medicare, which is $3,400 annual for me for the basic, supplementals and drug coverage. $760 for my dental insurance. So, if you can live off of non-taxable income this can be a big factor in the ability to retire early.

3) While I had a good job and generally pleasant work environment, 40 years was enough for me and I was determined to start enjoying retirement as soon as feasible. I did find the first few years a difficult adjustment with too much free time on my hands. If you have a tendency towards vices such as alcohol abuse, this can become very problematic as I quickly learned. While the lifestyle adjustment continues, I have found myself taking on healthier pursuits like long daily walks, swimming and learning jazz guitar after 50+ years of rock and roll only. Admittedly, the internet fills up (too) much of my time, but hell you can do that all you want in retirement. In any case, as many others have posted, do not underestimate the adjustment to all the free time you will have on your hands and what you may need to keep you feeling fulfilled in your golden years.
I don’t like to keep detail budget of my expenses but the social security and small pension I receive cover the basics like you indicate in part 1. Including my fun money. I guess if I have any emergency I can dip into my 401k or some of my taxable savings. My investable assets never went down since I retired 15 years ago at 53.

I also used Cobra when I left work for the allocated period and then paid for the private insurance $8k a year for a few years. When Obamacare came around I answered the questionnaire and also was eligible for NJ FAmilycare which was free. I didn't have much taxable income and most of my assets were in 401k or Roth IRA. I did set aside a couple hundred thousands for the period before 66 y.o. social security for living expenses. I did receive a decent inheritance from my parent that eventually will go to the next generation. It’s only a safety net if my siblings or I didn’t save enough for our retirement.

Many on the board say they need $3-5 million to retire but that would be so you can pass on your investable assets to your kids and live off the dividends or interest Income. I’m assuming the mortgage is paid off. I guess you need $5 million if you buy a second home with the additional living expenses. I was looking into that but didn’t want the hassle. I know people that live only on their social security, they have very little assets, but may be in trouble in a couple of years when inflation catches up with them, especially the rent increases.

Remember, that’s your assets double every 8-10 years with a decent return. So if you have $5 million at 65, then approximately $10 million at 75 and $20 million at 85. I started giving some of my money away recently.
 
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I don’t like to keep detail budget of my expenses but the social security and small pension I receive cover the basics like you indicate in part 1. Including my fun money. I guess if I have any emergency I can dip into my 401k or some of my taxable savings. My investable assets never went down since I retired 15 years ago at 53.

I also used Cobra when I left work for the allocated period and then paid for the private insurance $8k a year for a few years. When Obamacare came around I answered the questionnaire and also was eligible for NJ FAmilycare which was free. I didn't have much taxable income and most of my assets were in 401k or Roth IRA. I did set aside a couple hundred thousands for the period before 66 y.o. social security for living expenses. I did receive a decent inheritance from my parent that eventually will go to the next generation. It’s only a safety net if my siblings or I didn’t save enough for our retirement.

Many on the board say they need $3-5 million to retire but that would be so you can pass on your investable assets to your kids and live off the dividends or interest Income. I’m assuming the mortgage is paid off. II know people that live only on their social security but may be trouble in a couple of years when inflation catches up with them, especially the rent increases.
Between my wife and I, we will both get the max SS payouts. So, let’s call it between 6500-7000 a month. That should be able to carry living expenses and medical pretty comfortably.
The only draw from savings would be for travel and hobbies. But when we retire, we really do not want to just sit around the house.
So the savings really will be mostly for- “I deserve it” type of costs.
 
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Excellent advice, and love your avatar--Baba Booey to y'all!

Two questions, if you don't mind. Sounds like your expenses of $36,000 are for one person- is that correct. And what do you pay in property taxes?

As I noted above, me and the wife are real misers, and I suspect we can live on a budget not that far off from yours, except our property taxes are $12K, and the health insurance costs will be substantial. Will have to look into NJ Family Care as a bridge to Medicare- do they not look back at your previous years of income? If so, sign me up, I'm outta here!
Bababooey to you as well. I guess those $40k dental implants were worth it.
Yes, I am now single and alimony payments ended thank goodness. Children are older and on their own.
My taxes in Hunterdon County are $10k. NJ FamilyCare only looks at your past year of income and you have to renew each year and supply a copy of your 1040. They even kept me with my expiring carrier Horizon. I had called the state to verify that assets are not considered and to my amazement, they confirmed income only.
 
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Definitely one thing I want to do when I retire is learn to play guitar and become Bruce Springsteen - lol! It's good to hear that you, and someone else who posted earlier are doing the same, as in the back of my mind I thought I would be too old. Anyway thank you for your honest assessment of your retirement.
Thanks. Not to brag, but I can play the lights out after 50+ years playing rock guitar. However, jazz guitar is a humbling experience. I'm getting some serious calluses on my pinky at least.
 
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Lots of people get bored in retirement because they had no plan to replace what work provides. This includes social connections, purpose, filling up time, and financial resources.
That's a good point, need things to keep busy

The plan, for at least the first year or two, after moving to Florida and in addition to simply unwinding and relaxing my body and mind, would be decorating house the way wife likes it, getting to know area, finding stuff to do (water sports primary) ,making new friends, seeing what the vibe is for FGCU bball, hit a bunch of Red Sox spring training games and being involved in Rutgers/FSU clubs of SW Florida

After that, we'd like to get another place up in / near Tally, as traveling 800 miles round trip for six home football games (and the spring game) isn't appealing, and I like going to soccer/basketball/baseball & softball games there as well, and being involved with Boosters and both NIL programs is appealing

Ideally it'd be 8 months in Naples area and 4 months in Tally, as Tallahassee gets cold in the winter and I can supplement FSU bball with FGCU bball

My wife is nervous I'll be spending too much time involved with sports and Boosters, but I'm telling her it's a good thing bc you don't want to get bored in retirement.

Plus if you look at it on a whole, if one attends 7 football games per year (not including away games/bowl games/flying up to NJ for Rutgers games), and associated bball/soccer/baseball/softball etc. games, if it's 50 total that's really only 1 per week

My biggest fear, absent of running out of money or getting bad health, is being bored, so I'd like to set up a bunch of stuff to do before we retire so that's not a concern
 
Hard to say no to getting paid a lot of money for doing something you enjoy and is very flexible (with location, travel, and logistics).
That makes sense as well - if you're getting paid nicely with little to no stress and you don't hate what you're doing, why quit? I hadn't considered that
 
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Congratulations to many of you on this thread.

Outside of the big salary people, it must have taken several years (decades?) of self-discipline to get to the position where a 4-6MM nest egg is a possibility/reality.
No way in hell do I need, nor will I have $4-6 mil. to live comfortably. I can enjoy whatever I want in retirement without touching investments with much less. My wife and I are not going to be taking two trips around the world each year and skiing in Aspen for a month.
 
No way in hell do I need, nor will I have $4-6 mil. to live comfortably. I can enjoy whatever I want in retirement without touching investments with much less. My wife and I are not going to be taking two trips around the world each year and skiing in Aspen for a month.
I was just giving props to those who reached that milestone.

Personally, I could live on less. Much less.

My ideal retirement involves reading, cooking, and BBQ/board games/video games/low impact outdoor stuff with my friends.

Now my wife on the other hand......
 
That's the plan for us as well, love that area
Plus there's a large Rutgers club down there!
Any information you have on the Rutgers Club in the Naples Area/SW Florida would be highly appreciated, as well as, if you know the meet-up spots in Naples for Rutgers football/basketball games. Thanks.
 
Any information you have on the Rutgers Club in the Naples Area/SW Florida would be highly appreciated, as well as, if you know the meet-up spots in Naples for Rutgers football/basketball games. Thanks.
I'm looking for the link but the only one I found was on FB
I met up w/them when I was down there once and it's a great bunch of folks
You can take the people out of Jersey, but never the Jersey out of people!
 
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That makes sense as well - if you're getting paid nicely with little to no stress and you don't hate what you're doing, why quit? I hadn't considered that
Because it still means spending 8-10 hours a day doing something other than one's hobbies and if you have a lot of hobbies and interests, retiring is way better than working. I could still be consulting right now, making a decent amount more per hour than I did when I retired (consulting doesn't include benefits normally), but I simply don't want to work any more as I'm enjoying retirement more than work - even fairly easy work.
 

For the individuals considering private HS vs public, investing the $15k x 4 years =60k invested 40 years @ 8% gives you $1.3 million. Which would your kid want?

I turbocharged my saving early in my career by trading my company stock (Wx) on the fluctuations. When the stock went up $1 on a $20 stock, I would sell it and when it went down $1 dollar I would buy it back at the end of the day. I didn’t keep track because I don’t like too much detail but notice the balance growing nicely. I thought about it and if I was able to do it 8 times a year I would get 40% annual return. I did it for a few years until the balance was getting substantial, probably gain 10-20 years in savings from this. My brother stock grew 5 times over 10 years and my company stock barely moved but I was able to make it work. Several years later in the today newspaper, large article of an auto worker doing the same thing and accumulating a couple hundred thousands.
 
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Because it still means spending 8-10 hours a day doing something other than one's hobbies and if you have a lot of hobbies and interests, retiring is way better than working. I could still be consulting right now, making a decent amount more per hour than I did when I retired (consulting doesn't include benefits normally), but I simply don't want to work any more as I'm enjoying retirement more than work - even fairly easy work.
That's also true
 
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For the individuals considering private HS vs public, investing the $15k x 4 years =60k invested 40 years @ 8% gives you $1.3 million. Which would your kid want?
That's a valid point, but long term, I want her going to Heaven

I look at it like you can't put a value on one's soul (sounds corny, but it's true), and feel this would be the best way to advance her faith in order to get her to the finish line
 
Best advice I ever got was max out your 401K and don't touch it. I don't think that message gets said enough, especially to those people who are starting their careers now.
Yep, said the same thing in my long post. Great advice we got from my dad and my wife's dad when I started at Merck after grad school. Also, we were already living together when I was in grad school, so we were used to living on a pittance, just getting by, so when our income took a huge jump when I started working in 1989 it was easy for us to put most of that increase away, maxing out my 401K from day one and putting some additional money away into investments/savings to buy a house (4 years later). Compounding is awesome especially if one starts with a nice chunk of change.

One other financial piece of advice we almost got burned on by not following it early in my career: diversify your investments in your 401K or elsewhere. For my first ~11 years of work, I had 90% of our 401K in Merck stock, which was doing great, so I made a lot on paper, but for a few years I had several friends tell me that that position was risky, in case something happened to he company stock. So I converted about 90% of the MK stock to a diverse portfolio of funds within the 401K when our stock was at $90 in late 2000, a few months before the VIOXX mess, which led to the stock dropping to $30 within 3-4 years - and it took 20 years to get back to $90. Best financial decision I ever made, but an even smarter one would've been to not be invested so heavily in one stock in the first place.
 
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Bababooey to you as well. I guess those $40k dental implants were worth it.
Yes, I am now single and alimony payments ended thank goodness. Children are older and on their own.
My taxes in Hunterdon County are $10k. NJ FamilyCare only looks at your past year of income and you have to renew each year and supply a copy of your 1040. They even kept me with my expiring carrier Horizon. I had called the state to verify that assets are not considered and to my amazement, they confirmed income only.
By eyeballing the NJFamilyCare limits/requirements, you seem to be in a sweet spot for eligibility. If I am reading correctly, it is either 137% or 148% times the poverty limit for the family size (in our case 2).

We have rental homes and investment income that I think would push us over the limit, and this will not be an option. Sounds like you don't have a pension (like me (us)).
 
I was just giving props to those who reached that milestone.

Personally, I could live on less. Much less.

My ideal retirement involves reading, cooking, and BBQ/board games/video games/low impact outdoor stuff with my friends.

Now my wife on the other hand......
I'm thinking of doing something my Mom did. She bought an RV and took 3 to 4 weeks a year and saw the country. She always said, "I've been to a lot of places all over the world, now it's time to experience my own country in person before its too late". For me and my wife it would probably involve Rutgers sports in some facet, especially now with it being a coast-to-coast conference.
 
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