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Pat Hobbs is 1 for 3

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So far, with the head coach picks, 1. Stringer, no way Big Mistake in my opinion,
she hit her peak years ago. 2. Ash, I would have preferred an experienced head
head coach, maybe even Albert James Golden Jr. would be better than to wait
for Mehringer to hit puberty. 3. Steve Pikiell, I thought it was a great choice from
the beginning. Well like Meat Loaf once said, " Two out of three ain't bad" or not?
 
So far, with the head coach picks, 1. Stringer, no way Big Mistake in my opinion,
she hit her peak years ago. 2. Ash, I would have preferred an experienced head
head coach, maybe even Albert James Golden Jr. would be better than to wait
for Mehringer to hit puberty. 3. Steve Pikiell, I thought it was a great choice from
the beginning. Well like Meat Loaf once said, " Two out of three ain't bad" or not?

Can we not judge before any season is over!!?? Ridiculous.
 
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So far, with the head coach picks, 1. Stringer, no way Big Mistake in my opinion,
she hit her peak years ago. 2. Ash, I would have preferred an experienced head
head coach, maybe even Albert James Golden Jr. would be better than to wait
for Mehringer to hit puberty. 3. Steve Pikiell, I thought it was a great choice from
the beginning. Well like Meat Loaf once said, " Two out of three ain't bad" or not?
So far you're 0-3.
 
So far, with the head coach picks, 1. Stringer, no way Big Mistake in my opinion,
she hit her peak years ago. 2. Ash, I would have preferred an experienced head
head coach, maybe even Albert James Golden Jr. would be better than to wait
for Mehringer to hit puberty. 3. Steve Pikiell, I thought it was a great choice from
the beginning. Well like Meat Loaf once said, " Two out of three ain't bad" or not?

You lost me at Al Golden. Just go hang out with Al in Detroit or wait until he gets back to Monmouth county.

GO RU
 
I really get the feeling that some people were bigger fans of Flood than they were of the school.

Been saying this for a while now. They not only think he was a good coach, but a good recruiter and a "great guy," DESPITE all evidence to the contrary.
 
So far, with the head coach picks, 1. Stringer, no way Big Mistake in my opinion,
she hit her peak years ago. 2. Ash, I would have preferred an experienced head
head coach, maybe even Albert James Golden Jr. would be better than to wait
for Mehringer to hit puberty. 3. Steve Pikiell, I thought it was a great choice from
the beginning. Well like Meat Loaf once said, " Two out of three ain't bad" or not?

Al Golden would have been terrible. I have a lot of confidence in Ash and even if you don't there were many better choices than Golden. No way he would be able to compete in this league.
 
Why when somebody criticizes ash you all just assume they are a floodie... maybe like me, they think Flood was ATROCIOUS but also don't think Ash is the right fit?
 
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Stringer may well be done as a real coach, but getting rid of a hall of famer is not going to happen easily. Ash and company clearly inherited a team of less than great players and the injuries are not replaced by anyone nearly as good.
As great as the MBB season has started, let's see how it ends before we make him a King.
 
So far, with the head coach picks, 1. Stringer, no way Big Mistake in my opinion,
she hit her peak years ago. 2. Ash, I would have preferred an experienced head
head coach, maybe even Albert James Golden Jr. would be better than to wait
for Mehringer to hit puberty. 3. Steve Pikiell, I thought it was a great choice from
the beginning. Well like Meat Loaf once said, " Two out of three ain't bad" or not?

1 of 3 not bad in Horsehoes or Hand grenades. Hobbs did not do his homework in this hire.
 
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Stringer may well be done as a real coach, but getting rid of a hall of famer is not going to happen easily. Ash and company clearly inherited a team of less than great players and the injuries are not replaced by anyone nearly as good.
As great as the MBB season has started, let's see how it ends before we make him a King.
Her contract was up, that was the time to do nothing, but wave goodbye. Then hire anyone
and this board will give her 5 years, saying it was Stringers fault, we are good at that.
 
By the way Hobbs hired a co-defensive coordinator. He wasn't even # 1. Shades of
Flood all over again, I didn't say I wanted Golden but suggested picking a co-cordinator
wouldn't have been my choice. I was trying to make a point. Ohio
state would make anyone look good.
 
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By the way Hobbs hired a co-offensive coordinator. He wasn't even # 1. Shades of
Flood all over again, I didn't say I wanted Golden but suggested picking a co-cordinator
wouldn't have been my choice. I was trying to make a point. Ohio
state would make anyone look good.

Except that he was a defensive coordinator, not an offensive coordinator.
 
Except that he was a defensive coordinator, not an offensive coordinator.
He's clueless.

Ash basically called all the plays. Fickel just stood on the sideline. Ash orchestrated the D on that national championship team. He's as qualified as Schiano was if not more so.
 
By the way Hobbs hired a co-offensive coordinator. He wasn't even # 1. Shades of
Flood all over again, I didn't say I wanted Golden but suggested picking a co-cordinator
wouldn't have been my choice. I was trying to make a point. Ohio
state would make anyone look good.
Ohio St hired him to make changes when the D was struggling. People at OSU attribute Ash as being the guy that made those changes, not Fickell. And he was the main playcaller, Fickell had the Flood role.
 
Why when somebody criticizes ash you all just assume they are a floodie... maybe like me, they think Flood was ATROCIOUS but also don't think Ash is the right fit?
Well I can't speak for anyone else, but for my part I assume you are a Floodie because every time you post I have to see his face on your avatar.
 
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Well I can't speak for anyone else, but for my part I assume you are a Floodie because every time you post I have to see his face on your avatar.
I have the two worst coaches in CFB in my avatar
 
By the way Hobbs hired a co-offensive coordinator. He wasn't even # 1. Shades of
Flood all over again, I didn't say I wanted Golden but suggested picking a co-cordinator
wouldn't have been my choice. I was trying to make a point. Ohio
state would make anyone look good.

Maybe do just a bit of research
 
Judging one coach after the first year of a rebuild and another after not playing anyone. We have some of the dumbest fans in the country.

Dumb, not always. Impatient? Yes, very very impatient...give the damn guy some time to build the football program his way. We're in the middle of a massive rebuild. The foundation is in place, and we need to take our lumps for a little while. I've said it once and I'll say it again, if we're in a similar spot next year we should be worried.
 
I have no idea whether Ash will turn out to be the right choice or not. But I'm pretty certain that Golden would have been the wrong choice, long term.
 
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So far, with the head coach picks, 1. Stringer, no way Big Mistake in my opinion,
she hit her peak years ago. 2. Ash, I would have preferred an experienced head
head coach, maybe even Albert James Golden Jr. would be better than to wait
for Mehringer to hit puberty. 3. Steve Pikiell, I thought it was a great choice from
the beginning. Well like Meat Loaf once said, " Two out of three ain't bad" or not?

Nominated for dumbest post of the year. You don't fire a HOF coach in Stringer, the only friggin' coach at RU who has almost won a national championship, the jury is still way, way out on Ash and honestly, same is true for Pikiell, who's off to a nice start, but we haven't really played anyone yet.
 
It is what it is.
I have no idea whether Ash will turn out to be the right choice or not. But I'm pretty certain that Golden would have been the wrong choice, long term.
The problem with your post is that you are comparing a known verses an unknown. All I hear are excuses about a coach that lost every conference game this year. Naturally the feel good response is to say that Al Golden too would have lost every conference game. Do you honestly believe that Golden would have given us such a putrid performance as Ash? If yes, based on what, his performance at Miami? Great, then someone tell me what has Richt done at Miami? I for one do not believe that Al Golden would have performed as poorly as coach Ash. I also believe that coach Flood would have given us 3 maybe 4 additional wins this year. But all this does not matter. Let's wait until next year and the year after to see if the new Governor could put enough pressure on the new RU President and AD to hopefully hire an experienced HC & Assistants.
 
Ash ruined the limited talent he had. We had most of an offensive line back and several decent running backs, a solid defensive line and some decent DBs. No way we should have been embarassed over and over this year. We' re supposed to get better (not worse) as the season wore on. This is terrible coaching staff.
 
It is what it is.

the problem with your post is that you are comparing a known verses an unknown. All I hear are excuses about a coach that lost every conference game this year. Naturally the feel good response is to say that Al Golden too would have lost every conference game. Do you honestly believe that AG would have given us such a putrid performance as Ash? If yes, based on what his performance at Miami? Great, then someone tell me what has Richt done at Miami? I for do not believe that Al Golden would have performed as poorly as coach Ash. I also believe that coach Flood would have given us 3 maybe 4 additional wins this year. But all this does not matter. Let's wait until next year and the year after to see if the new Governor could put enough pressure on the new President and AD to hopefully hire an experienced HC.

I know I'm comparing an unknown vs known. That's why I said I don’t know if Ash will turn out to be the right guy but I'm pretty certain that Golden is not.

As far as how many game Golden could win, it probably is more than two, maybe as many as 6. But I think my post was pretty clearly looking at the long term. And even if Golden gave us 6 wins this year, I think his upside is varying between 4 and 7 wins, occasionally getting to 8. That doesn't do it for me. I'm willing to take a lousy season or two to build a program that can consistently compete for 8-10 wins. I don't know if Ash is the guy to do that (he's still an unknown), but I'd rather take that chance than a known quantity that would be unsatisfying in the long term.
 
I know I'm comparing an unknown vs known. That's why I said I don’t know if Ash will turn out to be the right guy but I'm pretty certain that Golden is not.

As far as how many game Golden could win, it probably is more than two, maybe as many as 6. But I think my post was pretty clearly looking at the long term. And even if Golden gave us 6 wins this year, I think his upside is varying between 4 and 7 wins, occasionally getting to 8. That doesn't do it for me. I'm willing to take a lousy season or two to build a program that can consistently compete for 8-10 wins. I don't know if Ash is the guy to do that (he's still an unknown), but I'd rather take that chance than a known quantity that would be unsatisfying in the long term.
You must be a young man because if your looking for 10 wins it's going to be a long long time.
 
Ash ruined the limited talent he had. We had most of an offensive line back and several decent running backs, a solid defensive line and some decent DBs. No way we should have been embarassed over and over this year. We' re supposed to get better (not worse) as the season wore on. This is terrible coaching staff.

Oh please you've been on Ash from the 2nd he was hired. Stupid posts like this aren't fooling anyone.
 
Why when somebody criticizes ash you all just assume they are a floodie... maybe like me, they think Flood was ATROCIOUS but also don't think Ash is the right fit?

Are you kidding? Most of the "Floodies" are well known Floodies and have always been as such. Others, like you, LITERALLY have that moron in your avatar. Think about that one for a second. Then there are the guys, as I said earlier in a thread, who hate just to hate and I'm pretty sure what absolutely ZERO football aside from RU games.
 
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Nominated for dumbest post of the year. You don't fire a HOF coach in Stringer, the only friggin' coach at RU who has almost won a national championship, the jury is still way, way out on Ash and honestly, same is true for Pikiell, who's off to a nice start, but we haven't really played anyone yet.

There are a few of them in this thread. My Lord.
 
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Nominated for dumbest post of the year. You don't fire a HOF coach in Stringer, the only friggin' coach at RU who has almost won a national championship, the jury is still way, way out on Ash and honestly, same is true for Pikiell, who's off to a nice start, but we haven't really played anyone yet.
I said I would have preferred, an experienced head coach, How did you get, I want him fired out of that..
I also did not say fire Stringer, but if I were to make a decision it would be at the end of contract.
And thanks for calling be dumb, You should know better, not all of us can have 3 degrees.
 
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I criticize Ash a lot on this board, but even I know he hasn't proved Hobbs made a mistake hiring him.
My opinion is Ash didn't do very well as a HC this season but he had a lot of obstacles
to overcome and the type that there isn't a quick fix for.
Ash might prove to be a good one, or a bad hire, but it will take more than this season to prove if Hobbs made a mistake or not.
He deserves a mulligan for this season, but maybe complaints about the staff he put together might not be out of line.
For the record, as bad as RU's O looked, I'm giving Mehringer a Mulligan because of his inexperience and changing the offense from what his players were recruited for to a system they might not be a good fit for.
As for the DC Niemann ? Not sure if the bad D play can fall squarely on his shoulders
because of how the O left them on the field and special team play was horrible for field position.
I'll judst say his defense left something to be desired and I wouldn't be sad to see him replaced, but wouldn't be upset if he came back.
STC needs to be replaced ASAP .
Position coaches might need an upgrade as well.

Stringer is back because she's a HOF HC deserved to return to keep on the 1000 V hunt and Hobbs knoew that and renewed her contract for this season.
Don't know if Hobbs will renew CVS for next year if the WBB team keeps playing like it is.
I actually doubt if he would give CVS another year if this one winds up being a disaster.

Pikeill is looking good righy now, but if the team starts looking bad, SP will deserve a mulligan himself because he took over a program that looked like a disaster last season.
 
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