We heard for weeks and weeks that Cam Spencer was getting $200k from NIL Rich UConn. A really good spot up Shooter and 13 ppg scorer.
Then, someone posts $400K for Mulcahy to Washington and people believe it without question. Lol, 😂 😂
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Then, someone posts $400K for Mulcahy to Washington and people believe it without question. Lol, 😂 😂
NIL is technically donor driven and outside the realm of colleges and the NCAA. I understand in real life that's not exactly how it works but, like "Mission Impossible" the "secretary will disavow any knowledge of your existence." That being said, these student athletes have an easy way of not being "taken advantage of" by potential NIL deals that go south. Stay with the school that recruited you.
That's an interesting point about Geo/Ron/Caleb laying low. I agree that you can read something into that.
I met Paul once at a KTR function at Tavern on George. He seemed really nice and cool to me. And while he didn't play great in the clutch last year, I'm pretty sure he was playing hurt. I think he's going to be better this year and I think he would have given us good minutes.
Although Cliff is back, it's a very different season with none of Ron/Geo/Caleb/Paul left. We're rooting for a very different team this year, and hopefully an even more different team (Ace/Dylan/Gavin) the following year.
That's funny though the exact opposite for a kid that played his heart out for this team
Really don't understand the whole thing, Paul put the team on his back down the stretch two years ago, played hurt last year and it was obvious. Could have come back as the team leader, starter or not. Was still going to get plenty of minutes and finish up with one hell of a legacy. If he didn't want back he could have left with class and grace In April. Really disrespected his teammates and the staff, and threw away a hell of a lot of goodwill and post BB opportunities. Just really short sighted. I would thank him for his time here, he moved on and so has RU BB, hope he learns from his mistakes and moves forward. The team has.
This board at it up when he spent some of his NIL money on meals for the managers but no one questioned why he would have a film crew document the whole thing. He’s a s a snake oil salesman in every way. Pretty ironic that the university of Washington played him at his own game.
That can't be good for recruiting at Washington.
I don't think it's an issue for basketball.
Nobody is using a 13 player rotation.
Same with football.
There are always eextra roster spots.
We would just "suggest" a player transfer to make room.
Yes, but not deserved? He tanked the season for the team down the stretch last year then leaves.
Entire pod posted above, very funny on Paul or “Jamal Mulvaney”. Fast forward to 6:20
Some silly comments here, but taking Oskar over Paul takes the cake lol.
What he did to Pikiell and the team was BS. Leaving so late and putting Pikiell in a bad spot. So Yes, Oskar over PM.
@Richard Schnyderite should we be reading into Paul’s insta story?? “🤞” at the RAC
Wanting to take him back is infinitely sillier
Betas
If Pikiell let Paul back on the roster I wouldn't get upset.
Oskar as well.
That would mean Pike held no grudge over leaving and felt coming back would hep the team.
But I also wouldn't mind Pike feeling it was best to move on from either of them and deny requests to return to the fold..
My opinion, once you officially leave and join another program , stay there or find another home because RU should have only those who want to be Scarlet Knights, not players that are forced to return because they found out (for them)the grass on the other side is mainly dirt,
Agree with you but also It should ‘t only be about what Pike wants. Foremost, It should be about what the team wants….and if I was Pike, I would want to make sure the team unanimously would want him back. Even if a single “walk on” had an issue, he should not be allowed back. Otherwise, it’s a bad precedent.
I have another idea. With the new QB spike rule a QB can fake a spike and then throw to his favorite WR who would probably be wide open.
If he left for NIL money and now regrets it? What did he expect to happen? He chose money over Rutgers and then thought RU might take him back? LOL sorry no.
I remember how good he was early last season. Never could have predicted this kind of end.
Total BS. BTW he is 22 years old.
This is our problem as a society and that kids can do nothing wrong and we protect them from everything. You learn by making mistakes, whether good or bad.
You do not even know the story and you are saying that he got taken advantage of.
Signed contracts are a good idea and would have helped....Next time get it in writing before you walk away because your feelings got hurt.
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Do you disagree with any of these statement…..
1. Paul should have had a month or so to make a decision.
2. Knowing the demand for point guards Pike had to go out and try and get one as he didn’t know Paul would be back
3. Knowing that Pike went out and found a replacement Paul owed it to himself to find a better situation for himself
4. The process of finding a school and the $ that comes with it takes a lot of time
Getting it in writing before you sign or enroll is a Major Violation.
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For some weird reason, St. John’s has loaded up on players and even a couple of high profile walk ons. I respect Pitino as a basketball coach, but I have no idea how he will keep his roster happy this year.
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He was in portal. It would not tampering. I find it hard to believe that he could not receive some type of guarantee.
Never the less buyer beware..He could have had a very good graduate year at Rutgers and I would have supported him as I always did.
Decisions have consequences.....
Lol. Part of NIL is making adult decisions. You live and learn from the decisions you make
No one said it was Tampering. It is a violation to use specific dollar amount of NIL money to recruit before a player is signed or enrolled.
The fact that the NCAA is not doing anything does not change the fact that it is a violation....it is blatant pay for play. If a school and player were stupid enough to sign a contract they would be an easy target.
Nope there’s no room at the inn.
I should clarify. I have no issue taking Oskar over Paul under these circumstances. I meant from a strict talent standpoint.
18-22 year old still a college student with no real life experience - he is a babe amongst wolves. I can guarantee if you if more stories come out (and even if they dont) of college kids being made false promises on NIL compensation there will be a union/representation/protection that will appear.
Yes I agree you learn from making mistakes - but this is not you going to John's Auto Body to get a 'deal' and then it ends up costing you triple because he did a hack job. These are college students making NIL deals under the NCAA and College bubble - no way anyway should be getting ripped off or sold a false bill of goods under these circumstances.
Probably nobody on here knows the whole story - we are all going off of what we are hearing. It sounds like he was told one thing, and then got another. Who knows how tongue and cheek that convo was or what was and was not said to him. Like a lot of things in sports we are going off sources and rumor.
Of course he should have had a signed a contract or some kind of an offer sheet - but how is some average college kid who is dealing with something like this for the first time supposed to navigate this? Again that's the case for these kids to have some kind of representation.
Let me also be clear - I agree with Pike about him not coming back. He made a decision that put us in a bad spot because of the timing and then we had to react. I think he messed up his legacy a bit here, but he was a 4 year player that played some major minutes and was a 2 year captain. I welcome him back with open arms whenever he wants to visit, and thank him for what he did here - despite not the best ending. And oh yeah, he certainly isn't the first 22 year old to make a questionable decision - and he definitely won't be the last.
No sympathy. He wanted out. He entered the portal before any of this.
He surely had advisors and other players who’ve been through it. At the end of the day, he overestimated his own talent and NIL value.
He just ain’t a high level PG, but no doubt he’s still looking.
Don Quixote anyone ?
He surely had advisors and other players who’ve been through it. At the end of the day, he overestimated his own talent and NIL value.
He just ain’t a high level PG, but no doubt he’s still looking.
Don Quixote anyone ?
Schools aren’t involved in NIL so that’s a moot point. As for players, 90% of portal movement is technically pay for play. A well crafted agreement can easily get around it.
Say to a kid, "We can put together a NIL deals that can total $400K or more" and they hear, "I am definitely getting $400K."
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