Pay Schiano 4m/year

[ru75]

Look I hope for RU sake financialy Ash is 500 next year and continues some progress. At current point it's a real unknown if that happens and he remains as HC

True, but considering how bad we were, to get the recruits he has is big. So, if we win more and we get even better recruits, I see more upside as he matures as a head coach. I think, GS probably would have more upside in the B1G as far as his recruiting but I see more potential upside (and downside) with Ash.

 

[Shelby65]

He would never come here. 1) His legacy is positve overall and he won't want it to change, and 2) it's impossible for RU to become a regular contender in this division, let alone conference.

Even the SEC is easier....and I think he'll be either at Florida or Tennessee next year.

 

[ruman]

GS will be in the SEC soon.

It will be interesting to see if he is a candidate for the likely opening at Florida.

Dan Mullen will get Florida

 

[rutgersguy1]

Dan Mullen will get Florida

That's another good name and possibility having been the former OC there with Meyer. The former Miss. St. athletic director, didn't hire him though, is at UF now so if he liked him at Miss St. it's possible. He does make 4.5M though so it might take some sort of bump to get him.

Other names I've seen attached to a still filled UF job..
Frost, Norvell, Fuente, Babers and .....even Bob Stoops as another returning coach similar to Mullen. Don't think he's realistic though because I actually do think he left to genuinely be with his family after losing his father around his age.

As to others, well you can see the offensive flavor they must be craving in Gainesville especially considering their struggles this year.

 

[RUChow]

Barrett went 33-39 against Schiano's secondary?
Aren't they on the same team?

Sorry, my screw up. It's early for me.

 

[RUPartisan]

It seems a lot of these folks didn't just see schiano keep the heisman frontrunner to 44 yards rushing.

Schiano's only coach I'd trade for Ash at this point though.

Really?!?! Schiano is the only one? Either you are using an insane amount of hyperbole or you truly reside in vacuum or bubble.

 

[LETSGORU91]

Nonsense was his last 3 years in the Big east and 12 years of never beating WVU. Boom. Roasted

Schiano's first four years: 12-34 or 0.261 winning percentage. Last seven years:. 56-33 or 0.629 win percentage..my initial comment was aimed at someone saying he's a 0.500 coach, and I pointed out the first few years skew that overall number. I said nothing about championships or wins over WVU. Posts taken out of context, as usual. Boom-chica-boom to your roasted cajones.

 

[LETSGORU91]

Oh isn’t that convenient. Let’s throw away the first 3 or 4 years of every coach who rebuilds an awful program.

Never said anything such as what you sarcastically propose. But to show progress, there is a need to extract certain data, and that's what I did.

 

[BuggsyRU]

Not one of those guys can recruit like GS

I'm sorry, but if you think Schiano is a better recruiter than Brett Venables, you are sadly mistaken.

https://n.rivals.com/news/venables-named-rivals-recruiter-of-the-year

 

[vkj91]

Schiano's first four years: 12-34 or 0.261 winning percentage. Last seven years:. 56-33 or 0.629 win percentage..my initial comment was aimed at someone saying he's a 0.500 coach, and I pointed out the first few years skew that overall number. I said nothing about championships or wins over WVU. Posts taken out of context, as usual. Boom-chica-boom to your roasted cajones.

Please post his conference record

 

[vkj91]

Just a fun reminder, in year 11 we lost to a 5-7 UCONN team in basically same fashion we lost to Michigan. Yes, let's pay him 7 million

 

[zappaa]

I'm sorry, but if you think Schiano is a better recruiter than Brett Venables, you are sadly mistaken.

https://n.rivals.com/news/venables-named-rivals-recruiter-of-the-year

I'd take my chances in NJ with GS.
He's not coming back anyway, this whole thread is irrelevant

 

[RU4Real]

Schiano doesn't have a Rutgers offer.

 

[zappaa]

Just a fun reminder, in year 11 we lost to a 5-7 UCONN team in basically same fashion we lost to Michigan. Yes, let's pay him 7 million

You don't think GS built the program, we get it.

 

[50 yd line RR]

Great another Schiano thread!
Think he's a great coach, did a phenomenal job here. (I'm still rooting for him) but we already have a coach. I hope Ash is here for a long time.Were just starting to see signs of improvement and your talking about a coaching change? When Ash leaves ,this program is going to be in a much better place.
Schiano to RU? I am just hoping Jerry Kill comes back , so we don't go 9 years in a row
with a now offensive coordinator .
Schiano to RU? Let it die already.

 

[rufeelinit]

He did build the program but appeared to take it as far as he was capable of given his game day shortcomings. Bringing Angelico, hafley and confetti in sparked recruiting but I recall thinking he was a not a slam dunk to get a lucrative extension of he stayed.

 

[jtung230]

Just a fun reminder, in year 11 we lost to a 5-7 UCONN team in basically same fashion we lost to Michigan. Yes, let's pay him 7 million

Another fun reminder, GS did beat the BCS UCONN Bowl team with one of the worst RU team in 2010.

 

[rutgers4life11]

Really?!?! Schiano is the only one? Either you are using an insane amount of hyperbole or you truly reside in vacuum or bubble.

Only top tier one that 'might' consider coming here is what I obviously meant.

 

[LETSGORU91]

Another fun reminder, GS did beat the BCS UCONN Bowl team with one of the worst RU team in 2010.

Touche'!!! I like it!! Glass half full.

 

[rutgers4life11]

I think best case scenario for everyone involved would be if Greg does NOT get a coveted P5 coaching job and sticks at OSU for another year. Apparently he's pretty selective, so I wouldn't rule it out. It would give Ash another year to prove his worth, give us more B1G money to play with, and less of a penalty for ending Ash contract.

Fact is if Ash doesn't win another game this season, and only grabs 2-4 wins next season -- most of us would be very happy to have Greg back.

 

[OldManRiver]

What a worthless thread.
You guys remind me of a dorky looking dude with a hot girlfriend...but looking at what else is around. Especially looking at other girls that made your life difficult.

 

[jtung230]

What a worthless thread.
You guys remind me of a dorky looking dude with a hot girlfriend...but looking at what else is around. Especially looking at other girls that made your life difficult.

You think Ash is hot?

 

[RUJohnny99]

Squan Barkley-3 yards rushing second half.what did Michigan have like 250 yards rushing against RU yesterday ?

Did Schiano do that, or did the 4 NFL bound D linemen recruited by Chris Ash do that?

 

[Big East Beast]

Zappaa - the other narrative a Schiano return would create is the myth that he is the only person who can achieve football success at RU.

He did an amazing job here, but I don’t think I’m the only alum who believes this school is bigger than any one man. There are plenty of football coaches out there and I see no reason to double the salary allocation to find a new one....let alone the same one.

 

[GSGS]

Here's a novel concept - how about giving Ash a chance to get this done. Did anybody really think that this was an overnight project? Does anyone think that we have not shown progress this year?

 

[BigRnj]

I'm not sure that Hobbs would like working for Schiano :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[OldManRiver]

You think Ash is hot?

Do you think you have enough analytics to say he won't be?
The point I'm making is that you may have someone that has braces on....you thrown her to the curb...then the braces come off and go...hmmmm, is that you....you're hot

 

[RUJohnny99]

Schiano's first four years: 12-34 or 0.261 winning percentage. Last seven years:. 56-33 or 0.629 win percentage..my initial comment was aimed at someone saying he's a 0.500 coach, and I pointed out the first few years skew that overall number. I said nothing about championships or wins over WVU. Posts taken out of context, as usual. Boom-chica-boom to your roasted cajones.

Schiano's 3 years with Ray Rice: 26-12 (0.722)
Schiano's 8 years without Ray Rice: 42-55 (0.433)

Schiano's 4 years before Ray Rice: 12-34 (0.261)
Schiano's 4 years after Ray Rice: 30-21 (0.588)

Let's see what Chris Ash does after he gets a Ray Rice type difference maker in year 5.

 

[RUJohnny99]

Another fun reminder, GS did beat the BCS UCONN Bowl team with one of the worst RU team in 2010.

And what was his second biggest win between 2008 & 2011?

 

[OldManRiver]

Schiano's 3 years with Ray Rice: 26-12 (0.722)
Schiano's 8 years without Ray Rice: 42-55 (0.433)

Schiano's 4 years before Ray Rice: 12-34 (0.261)
Schiano's 4 years after Ray Rice: 30-21 (0.588)

Let's see what Chris Ash does after he gets a Ray Rice type difference maker in year 5.

^^^^THIS....let's give Ash 10 years ...and then we can compare him to GS accomplishments here...and please don't say GS had less to work with....Ash had the same perception after the Flood

 

[jtung230]

Do you think you have enough analytics to say he won't be?
The point I'm making is that you may have someone that has braces on....you thrown her to the curb...then the braces come off and go...hmmmm, is that you....you're hot

Braces do take a few years. Ash did get a nose job (Kill) last summer.

 

[OldManRiver]

Braces do take a few years. Ash did get a nose job (Kill) last summer.

Yes...he IS improving his looks :smiley:

 

[jtung230]

And what was his second biggest win between 2008 & 2011?

2008 we beat a ranked Pitt team on the road and R Wilson NC ST in the bowl game.

 

[matty666]

It seems a lot of these folks didn't just see schiano keep the heisman frontrunner to 44 yards rushing.

Schiano's only coach I'd trade for Ash at this point though.

Yeah. Except in his career at Rutgers he wasn't ever able to recruit players even close to what he has now to work with. Whether it's here or elsewhere it's going to be interesting to see if he's evolved at all.

Also shockingly no 240 pound DTs, 220 pound ends and 200 pound linebackers. He did a great job often w less. He's a very good Defensive mind. But that doesn't make him a great head coach.

Other than Bull Belichick the two best defensive minds in the NFL may Marinelli and Wad Phillips. Both way ahead of Greg and both did not do well as a HC. Something to consider IMO.

 

[zappaa]

Zappaa - the other narrative a Schiano return would create is the myth that he is the only person who can achieve football success at RU.

He did an amazing job here, but I don’t think I’m the only alum who believes this school is bigger than any one man. There are plenty of football coaches out there and I see no reason to double the salary allocation to find a new one....let alone the same one.

That's all good stuff.
My posts are based solely on what would happen if GS came back for whatever reason.
I'm not advocating for Ash to be fired, or that he won't succeed (I do have questions based on recruiting)
I'm only posting what I think would happen buzz wise and recruiting wise if he ever came here again...I think it would astronomically positive

 

[ru66]

I really liked schiano but he received the same criticism that ash is getting from those asking for his head and schiano would have been fired in his second year if those fans had their way- and schiano had the "luxury" of competing against big east teams --when and if ash succeeds these same naysayers will be calling him a genius--comparing apples to oranges is so ridiculous

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

His body of work at tOSU has clearly shown that he can take highly touted, highly recruited, extremely talented young men and put them in a highly competitive, highly motivated situation with nearly limitless resources and allow them to operate within a schedule that provides extraordinary opportunities and he can have them achieve well within their potential.

$4 mil per is a bargain....... as long as I ain't personally paying...

 

[HeyHuey]

Great another Schiano thread!
Think he's a great coach, did a phenomenal job here. (I'm still rooting for him) but we already have a coach. I hope Ash is here for a long time.Were just starting to see signs of improvement and your talking about a coaching change? When Ash leaves ,this program is going to be in a much better place.
Schiano to RU? I am just hoping Jerry Kill comes back , so we don't go 9 years in a row
with a now offensive coordinator .
Schiano to RU? Let it die already.

Ga-ry! Ga-ry! Ga-ry! Ga-ry! Ga-ry! Ga-ry! Ga-ry! Ga-ry!

 

[HeyHuey]

Schiano doesn't have a Rutgers offer.

He could be a walk-on.....

 

[FanuSanu52]

I think best case scenario for everyone involved would be if Greg does NOT get a coveted P5 coaching job and sticks at OSU for another year. Apparently he's pretty selective, so I wouldn't rule it out. It would give Ash another year to prove his worth, give us more B1G money to play with, and less of a penalty for ending Ash contract.

Fact is if Ash doesn't win another game this season, and only grabs 2-4 wins next season -- most of us would be very happy to have Greg back.

You haven't been reading closely. There is no such fact that "most of us would be very happy to have Greg back." Some would, some would not. I frankly think it's borderline insane to suggest paying double for a guy who couldn't win the BE and left the year before he probably would have won the BE to come in and compete in a division that's multiple times more difficult.

This thread is ridiculous. People getting enamored with Schiano's D because it looked great on a stacked OSU team. I think I know another guy like that ..and he's our coach right now. If Ash doesnt cut it (I like the signs I'm seeing this year, personally), bring in a creative offensive mind. Not a D-first, offense as an afterthought retread.