Yeah, but the rhinoplasty was funged a bit. An improvement from the witch’s schnozz that was DM, but it’s not supermodel quality.
Pay Schiano 4m/year
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Wow, this thread has gotten very amusing.
People cite Schiano for being a .500 coach, but conveniently seem to forget he took over from a .200 coach
2. Wrong. I think it is quite possible to do both with the right coach.
People cite Schiano for being a .500 coach, but conveniently seem to forget he took over from a .200 coach
1. Wrong. Coming back here would put him front and center with one of the main reasons he left.
2. Wrong. I think it is quite possible to do both with the right coach.
Quite possible is a tall order, unless you can project 4 and 5 star interior linemen coming here on the reg
we beat NC ST only after knocking Wilson out. He lit us up in the first half and we beat his back up.
All roads lead back to RECRUITING and player DEVELOPMENT. Coach Schiano did a wonderful job recruiting high character kids, developing those kids for life and the NFL. I for one believe he put us on the college football map along with RR and BL. No, he could not beat Rich Rodriguez or Brian Kelly but I believe that had to do more with who he could and could not recruit. However, paying him 4 million per year is excessive.
Year 2 of Coach Ash's tenure has shown a significant improvement on defense but it seems like our offense has either stagnated or regressed a little bit. In year 3 both Ash and Kill will have a slightly weaker schedule and a more experienced team which should generate more W's. Year 3 will be the test.
Year 2 of Coach Ash's tenure has shown a significant improvement on defense but it seems like our offense has either stagnated or regressed a little bit. In year 3 both Ash and Kill will have a slightly weaker schedule and a more experienced team which should generate more W's. Year 3 will be the test.
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Schiano played several patsies every year. He also only played against Big East teams which were nothing like the the BIG 10. Wasn't he the coach who lost to Villanova and New Hampshire? He NEVER won a Big East championship yet on the day he was hired he said we would win a National Championship and he would win championships. He seemed so cocky and than sold us down the river after RU treated him like royalty. He took every assistant with him except Flood to Tampa Bay. He was built a home on RU property and he left us with nothing. I don't want him back. Ash recruited almost the entire defense at Ohio State and he was defensive coordinator when Ohio State won a national championship. His team at RU I think was like 0-12 against west Virginia. He just couldn't win the big one. He did establish our program but we were not in the big time yet. We played at least 4 games out of conference and most of those were against much weaker teams. I don't think he ever beat Miami either and posssibly never defeated Virginia Tech. Those teams owned us.
Wasn't that UCONN team like 8-5 and had a 3 way tie for 1st? Not exactly a program making win
People took the whole winning NCs way too literally. Don't know if he believed that line or not, but he was selling a vision. Doesn't matter if it never happened, matters that people believed and bought in.
How many boosters were you with this weekend. You do remember it’s a kinda big Gator weekend here in Jacksonville.
I don't know if they want him, but UF is the kind of opportunity I would love to see Schiano get, and what he wants. He would crawl to Florida for the job. The guy already put in his dues at Rutgers. I expect his agent to start the Schiano to UF rumour any minute now.
Everyone in my family is a UF grad except me and my cousin who went to FSU because she's slow. And I was born in Gainesville. When my uncle died we didn't have a funeral, per se. We had a tailgate party. You don't need to explain the Gators to me.
Yeah, but the cousin thing always gets a chuckle from Gator fans.
My oldest went to UF. My youngest to FSU. I understand the joke but am not allowed to laugh!!!
Yeah, RU knocked him out of the game. A lot of us said RU would likely do just that.
Thats what good physical defenses do..take QBs out.God..seems so long ago now sitting in stands at Legion field watching that game.
Considering how bad RU was when he took over, it's amazing how some hold not winning a National Championship against him.
Schiano's downfall was raising RU fan's expectations from just hoping the team might have a winning season, or not be the cupcake it was, into expecting to see a National Championship Trophy .
If Schiano did anything for RU FB, it was making it's fans care about the team far more they had before and more willing to attend games..
I'm in the crowd that thinks Schiano did a very good job at Rutgers on and off the field. He had some deficiencies (micromanager, game mgmt, etc) but great for RU. I'm also in the that ship has sailed and it's never ever ever happening again crowd. Rutgers has moved on and so has Schiano. For me Ash is a better defensive coach but less of a recruiter/salesman. The recruiting needs to improve but he is on the right track.
Do good, physical defenses knock qb's out of the game only to be gashed by the backup? Because that happened during the Schiano years more times than what occurred during the NC St. bowl.
If we ask really nicely, can these threads stop? Pretty please?
So tired of this. The past is the past. It's not coming back. If Johnny Majors -- who won a natiaonal championship -- can't duplicate success during a second tenure, what makes you think Schiano can?
And while he has the respect of high school coaches, do you realize how old current high school sophomores were when he last coached Rutgers? (As Ash is NOT leaving for another couple of years, you can't go with seniors or juniors.)
What he did here was remarkable. He then treaded water for several years. Just put him in the RU Hall of Fame and then FORGET THIS NONSENSE.
So tired of this. The past is the past. It's not coming back. If Johnny Majors -- who won a natiaonal championship -- can't duplicate success during a second tenure, what makes you think Schiano can?
And while he has the respect of high school coaches, do you realize how old current high school sophomores were when he last coached Rutgers? (As Ash is NOT leaving for another couple of years, you can't go with seniors or juniors.)
What he did here was remarkable. He then treaded water for several years. Just put him in the RU Hall of Fame and then FORGET THIS NONSENSE.
And you make it sound like getting back to occasionally being ranked wouldn't be a major upgrade.
You cannot go home again. So all the people thinking it unlikely are correct.
But so are the people who think GS would be the perfect coach. Rutgers and New Jersey is just too weird of a job and he understands it better than anyone else possibly could. I sometimes wonder if Ash knew what he was getting himself into.
Meanwhile, the people who think ash deserves more of a shot and that this topic is needlessly insulting are also correct.
GS left because even as her was turning everything around here.. the media seemed uncooperative and the S-L attacks... they were just too much even as he saw Big East teams bailing to the ACC and Rutgers was looking to be left out and stranded in the AAC just like UCONN is now. GS knew how the conference question was limiting his ability to recruit and, eventually, that would result in his star falling... so.. it was time to cash in on that NFL job and he got it.
GS would not be coming back to the same Rutgers... but in many ways the job would be harder. While I think he'd be up for the challenge football-wise... we have already seen NJ politicians wanting to spend the big Ten money for us. Already it has been assigned to zero-out the institutional support for athletics and.. really.. GS would need a lot of it for his pay and for the program.. to put it on a par with other Big Ten programs.
GS would demand that financial support and.. imho, no way he'd get it. There are going to be a lot of paws in that honeypot.. much of them political. Wait and see.
But so are the people who think GS would be the perfect coach. Rutgers and New Jersey is just too weird of a job and he understands it better than anyone else possibly could. I sometimes wonder if Ash knew what he was getting himself into.
Meanwhile, the people who think ash deserves more of a shot and that this topic is needlessly insulting are also correct.
GS left because even as her was turning everything around here.. the media seemed uncooperative and the S-L attacks... they were just too much even as he saw Big East teams bailing to the ACC and Rutgers was looking to be left out and stranded in the AAC just like UCONN is now. GS knew how the conference question was limiting his ability to recruit and, eventually, that would result in his star falling... so.. it was time to cash in on that NFL job and he got it.
GS would not be coming back to the same Rutgers... but in many ways the job would be harder. While I think he'd be up for the challenge football-wise... we have already seen NJ politicians wanting to spend the big Ten money for us. Already it has been assigned to zero-out the institutional support for athletics and.. really.. GS would need a lot of it for his pay and for the program.. to put it on a par with other Big Ten programs.
GS would demand that financial support and.. imho, no way he'd get it. There are going to be a lot of paws in that honeypot.. much of them political. Wait and see.
I agree with your post except for next years being an easier schedule. The BIG EAST stays the same, OOC we trade Wash for Kansas, easier Texas state and Buffalo are a wash with Morgan State and EMU. but the BIG WEST we play Illinois, same, but northwestern is better than Purdue and Wisconsin is better than Nebraska so I see it as a slightly tougher schedule. We do have 5 home games to 4 away in conference but other than that where do you see an easier schedule.
Love to see GS back here. Get recruiting buzzing again and bring some positive energy to the program.
@ vkj I once called Francessa and and Russo (circa 2004) to argue the very point you are making so I get it. I said GS needed more than 4 years to turn it around given the circumstances and Mike fired back “why should he get more time when other coaches don’t?”
My issue is more with GS’ last 3-4 years here. GS coaches here for 11 years and the 8 seasons with no ray rice were underwhelming. Now from. 01-04 he gets a pass given the fact we were essentially a bad 1-AA program when he walked in the door. But 2008-2011 was nothing special and for as much grief as he gets around here I think ash could have produced the same results as Schiano did those last few seasons.
Judging from the candidates I've seen listed from Norvell, Fuente, Mullen, Scott Frost, Matt Campbell I think they would want more of an offensive flavor considering their struggles on offense and the qb position.
I've kind of wondered if Chip Kelly might not be interested. I'd guess UF would be if he was. Access to that Florida speed and the "easier" half of the SEC but UGA doing better lately.
Mullen seems like a strong candidate considering the former Miss. St athletic director, Mullen was there first though, is now at UF. If he liked him at Miss. St and they bump his 4.5M salary going back to the school where he was a national title OC makes sense. He's done about all you can expect at Miss. St and maybe time to move on if the opportunity is there.
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Two things
1. GS is not coming back
2. RU will not pay 4m for a HC
What I love about GS’s style is his love for speed. All the guys seem to run downhill. It doesn’t always work but it was fun to watch.
1. GS is not coming back
2. RU will not pay 4m for a HC
What I love about GS’s style is his love for speed. All the guys seem to run downhill. It doesn’t always work but it was fun to watch.
