Penn State at home vs Butler
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shocked i tell you. Unless it’s football and covering up child sex assaults, they don’t care
Not a hoops school, but it’s not that empty tonight.
Snow expected in state college tomorrow
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Crowd is pretty good and energetic. Not sure what you’re watching. Stadium is huge so behind baskets look empty, but probably 6-7K there, which is what we’d draw in most years
PSU will be a tough out this season. Shrewsberry had them playing tough late last season. Not crazy talented, Pickett can score Myles Dread has been there for a billion years and Seth Lundy can challenge Caleb for DPOY. They are physical and their style of play really reminds me of RU
What’s wrong with Butler? I’d love to play Butler and Dayton. Traditional programs with strong followings.
I think we would probably draw a good crowd for Butler on a Monday, given the current demand for tickets. Agree about PSU being a PITA team to play for the league under Shrewsberry.
Being we've sold out UMass-Lowell, Coppin State, Columbia, Sacred Heart and Rider, I am quite confident we would have a crowd for Butler.
Good win for PSU. I always root for B1G in OOC games. Shrewsbury (A Matt Painter disciple) is a good HC.
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The list of schools that have played in two national championship games since 2010 is a very short one. Butler's among them.
We'd absolutely sell out for Butler.
And Penn State last night had about 6 rows of students on either side of the court and then what looked like a few hundred regular fans behind them. Behind both baskets was empty. They're 100% football
Their announced attendance was 6,700
Like I said, not much difference in their actual attendance compared to RU’s o n a Monday night if butler came to the RAC
That's not what announcers said. They actually criticized crowd several times
I think 5K in that building looks and sounds sparse. 5K in the RAC can still sound loud. Not that we have that problem these days!
I saw a fan near the court in an Eagles Jersey looking at his phone primarily not even watching the Pen St game. LOLz
Yeah, that's the main thing at that mausoleum of an arena - it's so cavernous that there's almost never an "atmosphere," especially when they only draw 4,000 fans.
But, yeah, PSU is going to be a real PITA this year. They can defend and they can shoot.
Who guards Cliff? Here's the PSU starting lineup from the Butler victory.
Seth Lundy, 6' 6", 220 lbs (heights and weights from the PSU website's official roster)
Caleb Dorsey, 6' 7", 235 lbs
Andrew Funk, 6' 5", 200 lbs
Camren Wynter, 6' 2", 200 lbs
Jalen Pickett, 6' 4", 209 lbs
Off their bench:
Myles Dread, 6' 4", 235 lbs
Kebba Njie, 6' 10", 237 lbs (freshman)
Dallion Johnson, 6' 3", 180 lbs
Looks like Dorsey is the only starter with a prayer of covering Cliff down low, and he's giving up 4". That's a tall order. If Cliff stays out of foul trouble, I think we comfortably beat PSU this year unless they have someone get HOT from long range.
We haven't been offensively efficient playing 3 teams that are even smaller. If PSU puts strong on ball pressure on our perimeter defenders it makes it very difficult to get tha ball in the right spot for Cliff.
One thing that we haven't really seen much of is high pick and roll with Cliff.
As always when there is a mismatch we need to look at the other side of the court. Who does Cliff defend?
The UMass -Lowell wan't close to a sellout .There were empty seats in the student section and in all sections of the 300 level. Perhaps,more seats were sold but fans didn't show up.
Dorsey. Cliff is fairly quick for his size, and with his length he should be able to lay a little off Dorsey and still contest outside shots, if Dorsey wants to play on the perimeter. Dorsey is 6th on PSU right now in scoring average. If they want to rework their offense to focus on using him to attach Omoruyi on defense from the perimeter, go for it.
Or we go zone at stretches.
Keep in mind our offense was hampered last game by a banged-up Mulcahy and we're still without Caleb. I expect our efficiency against UMass-Lowell would've been much higher with a healthy PM running the show. I'm assuming we'll have him healthy when we play PSU on Jan 24 and Feb 26.
We are also currently #12 in the AdjD metric on kenpom without the reigning DPOY. If we get a healthy Caleb back, that figures to stay a team strength.
Our offense wasn’t great, from a raw stats standpoint, for the 1st 2 games. I need to see a decent ‘22-‘23 sample size to conclude we are better offensively with Caleb. Everything I have seen in his career tells me the opposite. Obviously he is a huge difference maker in defense and defensive rebounding. His contributions will be essential once the competition improves.
