Relax, the colors are unsightly but the cause is good. Every time o see it I wonder why our school I isn't copying the great efforts to collect loose car change that adds up to millions
Penn State Students Soliciting Donations in Rahway!!!
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First day outside of the basement? There's a whole big world out there. You'll see.....
The thing is, the ttfpers used "thon" as an example of how good they are to offset the the examples of cult-like behavior they exhibited during the Sandusky-Paterno crisis.
So people looked into "thon" and found out it mainly benefits penn state's hospital and staff research positions with some monies actually going to kids with cancer [from pennsylvania being treated at hershey].
So, if penn state wants to limit the boundaries of who they help wit their charity, why shouldn't that be brought to everyones attention as they hinder traffic at New Jersey intersections?
Do what you want with that information. But is is extremely fair to discuss it. Thon has been going on a long time, and until you had ttfpers use it to offset their behavior in that scandal, people did not care. They brought the negative attention upon themselves.
So people looked into "thon" and found out it mainly benefits penn state's hospital and staff research positions with some monies actually going to kids with cancer [from pennsylvania being treated at hershey].
So, if penn state wants to limit the boundaries of who they help wit their charity, why shouldn't that be brought to everyones attention as they hinder traffic at New Jersey intersections?
Do what you want with that information. But is is extremely fair to discuss it. Thon has been going on a long time, and until you had ttfpers use it to offset their behavior in that scandal, people did not care. They brought the negative attention upon themselves.
This entire post is a LIE and I believe you know that you are lying. What reason are you lying? I love to hear that response.
Cancer patients have zero out-of-pocket expenses. The staff that you speak of above is quite good at getting insurance companies to pay, government programs to support, and private foundations to give such that very little is asked of the families and that amount is FULLY covered. I guess you think is isn't a valid expense of the fund?
Since the a relatively small percentage of the fund is used to directly offset patient expenses the balance is used for research in a effort to develop better treatment for future cancer patients. Why do you feel this is somehow bad?
No. My post is accurate. Only Pennsylvania residents treated at Penn State Hershey are eligible for assistance from the Four Diamonds Fund.
Maybe you should read page 4 of the Four Diamonds Impact Report : http://www.fourdiamonds.org/_fourdiamonds/assets/File/FY14 Four Diamonds Impact Report FINAL.pdf
Way less than the amount of PSU students that are from NJ. My guess would be 3%.
Nice use of BOLD.. I guess what you say must be TRUE.
Here's my response. Nothing I said was a lie. So read it again. I never said it was "bad". Why do you think discussing that none of the money collected on NJ roads for "kids with cancer" goes to NJ kids with cancer.. is "bad"? Why don't you have your students stand with signs that say "Donate to Penn State Hersey Hospital and Medical School in State College PA"? Why don't you collect that money (which is a GREAT THING) and send it to a top flight research hospital like Sloan-Kettering, the Mayo Clinic or Johns Hopkins?
I think the Hillary Campaign should hire the lot of you with the way you look to control what is allowed to be discussed. For that matter Trump can use you. The BOLD is really more his style.
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That's because you're a sick person--and all know--dear god get some help= plenty of good SSRI's will help you manage your life--good luck.
I really hope we beat Penn State sometime soon so we can stop having dumb threads like this.
You are correct. There were 724 PA students in 2013-2014 for all of Rutgers. In 2013 the Freshmen Class at main campus had 1,105 New Jersey natives. So I would estimate at main campus probably has 4,000.
Yes. The entirety of the money donated to RU Dance Marathon goes to the Embrace Kids Foundation, which in turn uses 80% of it on programs directly benefiting cancer-stricken patients and their families in the NY/NJ metro area. In terms of cancer treatment and cure research, I've donated to Memorial Sloan Kettering, which I feel is on the leading edge and more appropriate to contribute toward.
So you don't have a problem with the executive director taking 11% of all money received for his own salary? You don't have a problem with that? Shouldn't they put for the director on their cans? Are they being deceptive because they use the slogan For The Kids? Embrace kids uses 80% and Four Diamonds use 94% for their services. It is sad that any one would have a problem with students out raising money for a worthy cause. Weather it local or in a neighboring state.
The funding expenditures of the two organizations are not the same. According to their 2014 fiscal report, approximately $2.7 million donated to the Four Diamonds fund was spent on directly caring for cancer patients and their families (PA only). This equates to approximately 17% of the organization's overall revenue, while the rest goes to PSU-affiliated facility research and research endowments. PSU THON's website itself states that it is raising money for Penn State Hershey Research Center. The slogan 'for the kids' is therefore misleading, at least to those who do their research.
I prefer to donate to a foundation whose majority of donations (80%; the 11% executive salary is too high, but is offset by RU's Dance Marathon paying all of its administrative costs through fundraisers/concessions work) directly benefits local existing cancer patients near me, while making concurrent donations to a top-flight cancer research facility for the benefit of humanity. If you have a problem with that, well then I can't help you.
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And what do you think those PSU-affiliated facility research and research endowments due work for? They are all pediatric research or services. Isn't that for the kids? Only $213,148 of Embrace kids revenue goes directly to embrace kids assistance to clients. That is only 13.5% organization's overall revenue.
You sir, have created a post oozing with sooo much optimism. I like that - well done!
But I'm afraid there's really no place for that kind of thing here.
Good point. I guess both dance marathons are flawed. That's why I help kids with cancer by donating to Alex's Lemonade Stand Foundation.
THON is the largest student run philanthropic event in the world and benefits pediatric cancer. I believe it's been going on since the 1970s. Last year and the year before they raised over $13 million. It culminates in a weekend long dance marathon, although the event is much more than that as many of the children with cancer, and their families also participate. As far as fund raising, many students return to their homes for weekends of canister fund raising at various intersections, and since New Jersey has so many Penn State students, it's quite common to see them. When you're fighting such a horrible disease, I don't think State boundaries or collegeate loyalties are important. When they find a cure, we all benefit.
This promo video for 2016 provides good information or Google THON.org
Check out this video on YouTube:
This promo video for 2016 provides good information or Google THON.org
Check out this video on YouTube:
New Jersey has the largest net out migration of college students of any State in the country. I don't know how many go to Penn State, but they are well represented at U of Delaware, U of Penn, West Virginia, and many of the private liberal arts colleges like Bucknell, Lehigh, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Bryn Mawr, Swarthmore, etc. They have lots of good convenient choices.
Hershey is not a leading cancer research facility, so I feel my dollars are more appropriately donated to another facility, as already mentioned.
According to my research, 40% of Embrace Kids Foundation funds is spent on emergency financial assistance, social services, and patient care, while 40% is used for program events and family services. But really, we are arguing semantics: 40% vs. 13% direct patient/family care, RU 'THON vs. PSU 'THON, Embrace Kids benefitting local NY/NJ patients vs. Four Diamonds benefitting PA kids. Given the choice, guess which one I'd personally donate to?
Trying to call me out on my personal donation choices is extremely silly on your part.
This thread is WAY better this year. Last year didn't have the whole "my charity can beat up your charity" thing.
My son is very involved with Thon, In fact he is a Captain on the committee that is responsible for volunteer safety. He spent the weekend at the Thon office monitoring the canning efforts to make sure the rules were obeyed.
Unfortunately it appears that there was a fatal automobile accident involving PSU students returning to State College. Details are not available yet but the accident has been reported on a prominent student blog, though I am not sure how accurate their information is.
My son's involvement with Thon has been the best experience of his life. It really offends me when I read comments criticizing the students effort.
In light of today's tragedy, perhaps we can just agree that its a worthy cause that no one is required to donate to. Let's commend the students effort and say a prayer for those involved in the accident.
Unfortunately it appears that there was a fatal automobile accident involving PSU students returning to State College. Details are not available yet but the accident has been reported on a prominent student blog, though I am not sure how accurate their information is.
My son's involvement with Thon has been the best experience of his life. It really offends me when I read comments criticizing the students effort.
In light of today's tragedy, perhaps we can just agree that its a worthy cause that no one is required to donate to. Let's commend the students effort and say a prayer for those involved in the accident.
Dammit. I hope that it turns out that the accident wasn't fatal and wasn't as bad as first thought.
Has anyone ever seen a Rutgers student collecting funds like this? I haven't. $$$$
One fatality confirmed. Sorority girl. Accident was on the Pa Turnpike near Valley Forge.
So sad, a college kid doing her best to help kids.
Big Lou, I want to thank your son for his volunteer efforts, you must be extremely proud of the young man.
God Bless to that girl and her family!
They were out in full force here in Westfield today. Aside from those annoying "We Are" shirts, I couldn't care less. Nobody said a RU organization couldn't can collect. If the money is used for good, no big deal in my book.
A group of canners were in a car accident on the way back to State College. A young girl died. Feel better?
sissym - that is a very low blow, shame on you. Nobody commenting on the merits of contributing to the PSU THON, including the OP, would have wished for something like this. I'm sure that I speak for everyone here in saying that I am greatly saddened by this tragedy.
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I will let him know what you said above, it is very meaningful coming from you at a time when your thoughts are with your own family. And yes, I am very proud of him and his efforts.
There are some reprehensible comments in this thread by all of the usual suspects. Low blow or not, maybe people will actually stop for a second, think about the comments they're posting, and decide that it might be better to keep their opinions to themselves.
Trying to tear down the merits of a charity that is supported by college kids who are donating their time to try and make the world better for sick kids, is just plain disgusting.
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Sorry. I call BS. That's not what my confirm says. It says my money went to "Penn State Medical Center and Penn State College of Medicine." It did not make ANY mention pediatric cancer research, but instead said, and I quote: "whether it's conducting innovative research that leads to breakthrough medical discoveries, using the latest advances in patient care, educating future physicians and sciences, or providing special community outreach initiatives for those in need, your gift makes these achievements possible." That's a clear indication that my donation went to some general purpose fund for the Med School and not dedicated to pediatric cancer work. If that's not the case,mother the school needs to fix the disclosure, because I feel deceived!
Well you are wrong. Sorry you don't understand a simple concept that it a fund within a larger tax exempt organization and not registered as an independent 501(c)3 organization. Thon is very clear that all donations go to the four diamond fund. Any donation to thon for tax purposes are treated as donations to Penn State Hershey medical center. For example membership donations to the Nittany Lion Club goes to the Levi lamb fund. Because the Nittany Likn Club is not an independent 501 (c) 3 organization when I get my giving confirmation it a generic university one. That doesn't mean my donation didn't go to athletics. The reason why it done this way is because if each group registered individually it would increase administration cost for each fund or group. I am sorry this is such a difficult concept for you to grasp.
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