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Pike and Hobbs's Successor

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It's hard to imagine Hobbs surviving long after his ego-driven screw-up of the Schiano negotiations. But any successor must be made aware that holding on to Pike is a priority. (And also finding a worthy successor for CVS's retirement [that is probably not far off].)

So, in short, we need a basketball-oriented new AD.

(Put Pike in the search loop?)
 
Spot on. Having both programs in the news year round in crucial. I hope pike is here long term and if/when Hobbs goes they get a fundraiser and friend to hoops
 
It's hard to imagine Hobbs surviving long after his ego-driven screw-up of the Schiano negotiations. But any successor must be made aware that holding on to Pike is a priority. (And also finding a worthy successor for CVS's retirement [that is probably not far off].)

So, in short, we need a basketball-oriented new AD.

(Put Pike in the search loop?)
ok, wow. I took your title as if you were another one saying Pike would be leaving now. He won't be and I agree and feel the next AD has AND WILL be balanced. We've come to far in BBall and have further to go, much further. (assuming Hobb's will leave at some point).
 
Agree however I’d say odds are the new Prez picks their own AD.
I agree with this. If Hobbs is still around to introduce Greg at the press conference, I don't see him going anywhere while Barchi is still around. But if that's the case, he's basically got 6 months until the new president comes in to prove that he can still fundraise and get top donors to trust and back him. If he can't, when the new president comes along they are going to start searching for a new AD. Personally I hope he gets it done. But he's going to have to re-establish that he can still effectively fundraise for him to be able to stay around.
 
This gives pikiell a lifetime contract. The entire fan base threw a hissy fit because the athletic director didnt hire an out of work football coach who was 1 game over 500 in his 11 years at rutgers. Speaking to rutgers fans you would think schiano was jesus. All pikiell has to do to be the next jesus(after schiano of course) is maintain a 500 record and be top half of the league every couple years which will get him into the ncaa tournement.
 
This gives pikiell a lifetime contract. The entire fan base threw a hissy fit because the athletic director didnt hire an out of work football coach who was 1 game over 500 in his 11 years at rutgers. Speaking to rutgers fans you would think schiano was jesus. All pikiell has to do to be the next jesus(after schiano of course) is maintain a 500 record and be top half of the league every couple years which will get him into the ncaa tournement.
You're an idiot.
 
I like Pike but I'm much more concerned with his recruiting (this year's haul so far is NOT nearly good enough) than I am with him being poached or with him not liking a possible successor to Hobbs. The recruiting trend is what any basketball fan should really be concerned about if we're talking realistically about ever making an NCAA Tournament.
 
It's hard to imagine Hobbs surviving long after his ego-driven screw-up of the Schiano negotiations. But any successor must be made aware that holding on to Pike is a priority. (And also finding a worthy successor for CVS's retirement [that is probably not far off].)

So, in short, we need a basketball-oriented new AD.

(Put Pike in the search loop?)
'66 very good post. But we need an ALL SPORTS AD, who gives equal credence to both BB and FB as well as all of the olympic sports.
 
It's hard to imagine Hobbs surviving long after his ego-driven screw-up of the Schiano negotiations. But any successor must be made aware that holding on to Pike is a priority. (And also finding a worthy successor for CVS's retirement [that is probably not far off].)

So, in short, we need a basketball-oriented new AD.

(Put Pike in the search loop?)
Really convinced the original outcome was driven by Hobbs’ ego? You’re reading way too much Politi. If Politi says it I’d place money against it.
 
This gives pikiell a lifetime contract. The entire fan base threw a hissy fit because the athletic director didnt hire an out of work football coach who was 1 game over 500 in his 11 years at rutgers. Speaking to rutgers fans you would think schiano was jesus. All pikiell has to do to be the next jesus(after schiano of course) is maintain a 500 record and be top half of the league every couple years which will get him into the ncaa tournement.

It's posts like these that make me wish there was a "down" button.
 
Really convinced the original outcome was driven by Hobbs’ ego? You’re reading way too much Politi. If Politi says it I’d place money against it.
What don't you get? Hobbs received a counter offer from Schiano, that offer was never relayed to BOG members or donors. He stopped the 1st negotiation process on his own volition without input from those two parties. Then him or someone on his team slammed Schaino by releasing demands and stupid innuendos like, we need someone fully committed to the media. Hoping this would diffuse any backlash.

The overwhelming majority of fans, donors, ex-players, high school coaches and media wanted Schiano. But someone chose by themselves to end negotiations and start a search on plan B candidates. That's someone's ego saying I know better than all of you and I'm going to do it my way and my way only.
 
Really convinced the original outcome was driven by Hobbs’ ego? You’re reading way too much Politi. If Politi says it I’d place money against it.
Well, it couldn't have been driven by Schiano's ego, according to the mob here.

But even if it was driven by Schiano's ego, so what. His ego isn't going anywhere. That means the only one with a potential ego problem is Hobbs.
 
My sources say Hobbs will be fired or forced out with the softball thing in a few months
 
You're an idiot.

What was false? Pikiell needs an NCAA tournament every 3 or 4 years and he will be here forever. Not only that but the fans, donors and politicians will burn the university down if they try to fire him. He will get the Schiano treatment
 
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What don't you get? Hobbs received a counter offer from Schiano, that offer was never relayed to BOG members or donors. He stopped the 1st negotiation process on his own volition without input from those two parties. Then him or someone on his team slammed Schaino by releasing demands and stupid innuendos like, we need someone fully committed to the media. Hoping this would diffuse any backlash.

The overwhelming majority of fans, donors, ex-players, high school coaches and media wanted Schiano. But someone chose by themselves to end negotiations and start a search on plan B candidates. That's someone's ego saying I know better than all of you and I'm going to do it my way and my way only.

didn’t the overwhelming majority of fans, donors, ex-players, high school coaches and pro penn state media want joe pa to keep his job?

it will be interesting to see what the details of the contract are. If Hobbs got a worse deal than the original than shame on him but if he managed to get a better deal for the university he should get some credit.
 
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I haven't followed the saga closely, but Hobbs was in a horrible starting negotiating position. Coach S. was dealt a royal flush and Hobbs was holding 2,3,4,5,7 and had to play the hand. That being said, it was closed and we got our guy.
 
didn’t the overwhelming majority of fans, donors, ex-players, high school coaches and pro penn state media want joe pa to keep his job?

it will be interesting to see what the details of the contract are. If Hobbs got a worse deal than the original than shame on him but if he managed to get a better deal for the university he should get some credit.
Did you just make a comparison out of the worst tragedy ever to be perpetrate in college sports to the hiring of a coach? Just stop already.
 
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Did you just make a comparison out of the worst tragedy ever to be perpetrate in college sports to the hiring of a coach? Just stop already. It's clear you have no idea what your talking about. Hobbs wasn't even involved in the last negotiation. The grown ups had to step in before he threw another temper tantrum of not getting his way.

While I don't agree with Pancho's posts on this, I think you are now taking it to the opposite extreme.
 
i'm still not getting the hobbs is a fb hater, or know nothing,,,,,,,ok, I get it, hobb's is just a lawyer, bb lover,,,,,and that's it...........how does anyone know what hobbs know's , and does not know.......I thinks the hate for barchi, Christie, and hobbs........is more of a political attack. than anything sports related.......also, the said softball scandal. the timing of the n.j.com hit piece is suspect........where is the investigated follow up story. you know, the story where we find a history of abuse by the coach, and her husband......she spent four years at Toledo,,,where are the interviews of her former players........these were disgruntled players who didn't like their coach being fired.....all of her 2020 recruits are committed..........come on n.j,com i'm waiting for the follow up story
no,i'm not pat hobbs son, brother, close friend, or wife
so, someone please come forward with the true story of the chris ash, and greg shiano hiring's......was pat hobbs the only human being involved in both these situations........if you are going to assume total guilt in each of these events......make sure you find out the true story,,,,not here say, not from a friend, of a friend,............if all of the accusations are accurate ,and true ....I will apologize
 
Rumors of Hobbs demise are premature. Let's see what the press conference looks like
Donors hate his guts. Nothing premature about those feelings. An AD that is disliked has already failed at basically half their job.
 
I am not as confident as you. There could be factors you aren't considering or wouldn't even know to consider that are not Rutgers basketball related
Agree. People in the know are paying attention, and Pikes doesn't need a tourney berth for a "better gig." He's already pulled the program from the dregs to competitiveness. Add to that his impeccable reputation. Add to that he's a loyal guy, and if "his guy" goes it certainly makes it easier to consider other opportunities. Not saying that he would absolutely leave, but to not be concerned is a little cavalier.
 
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Donors hate his guts. Nothing premature about those feelings. An AD that is disliked has already failed at basically half their job.
You might be in a bubble. There are 5-10 donors that matter and despite Twitter posts they both understand what Hobbs was doing and still have a good relationship with hi..
 
Did you just make a comparison out of the worst tragedy ever to be perpetrate in college sports to the hiring of a coach? Just stop already.

Yes I did make the comparison and it was perfect. the point is fans, donors, ex-players wanting a specific coach doesn’t mean anything.

The point was not to compare a head coaching search with what happened at penn state. Obviously joe pa should have been fired ASAP. But you can still talk to penn state faithful who claim joe pa should have kept his job
 
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You might be in a bubble. There are 5-10 donors that matter and despite Twitter posts they both understand what Hobbs was doing and still have a good relationship with hi..
Just listened to Rutgers Rant podcast released today...

Keith Sargeant:
"There are A LOT of big money people that have lost confidence in Pat Hobbs... That might even be an understatement".
 
Really convinced the original outcome was driven by Hobbs’ ego? You’re reading way too much Politi. If Politi says it I’d place money against it.

Yup. Just trying to be controversial so that he can stay relevant. Bleacher Report carried a piece by him today entitled, What if Daniel Jones is Not the Future Giants Franchise QB. Or similar wording. His work has always seemed to be anti-RU, and he is scorned by many board members, past and present. The mythical Daily Planet has more credibility.
 
The title of this post is why the Oxford comma is important.
 
Hobbs will get the "Fredo" treatment from RU. He'll be taking that proverbial boat ride out on the lake, soon after Barchi is gone.
 
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Yup. Just trying to be controversial so that he can stay relevant. Bleacher Report carried a piece by him today entitled, What if Daniel Jones is Not the Future Giants Franchise QB. Or similar wording. His work has always seemed to be anti-RU, and he is scorned by many board members, past and present. The mythical Daily Planet has more credibility.
I agree completely. I’m sure Hobbs has an ego but what amazes me is how many reach judgment based on what they read and is speculated about what actually happened. I like to use the old adage, those who know don’t talk and those who talk don’t know. I doubt anyone with real insight is posting here. Just my view
 
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I agree completely. I’m sure Hobbs has an ego but what amazes me is how many reach judgment based on what they read and is speculated about what actually happened. I like to use the old adage, those who know don’t talk and those who talk don’t know. I doubt anyone with real insight is posting here. Just my view

Amen. It's like I said in another thread - there are always 3 sides to every story - here it's (1) Schiano's side, (2) Hobbs's side and (3) the truth. Anyone claiming they have first-hand knowledge of # 3 is probably not telling the truth!
 
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