Playing Time

[FIJI'83]

Problem right now there is no set rotation and therefore too many mouths to feed. How deep is Pike's rotation going to be when the team hits Vegas in 5 days? There are 200 minutes (40 x5) of playing time per game to divvy up. I don't believe you can rotate 10 players with each getting significant playing time and maintain cohesion. Assume going forward Bailey & Harper each get 32 minutes and Martini 30 minutes per game on average. Assume also Sommerville gets 25 minutes and Ogbole 10 minutes per game. That leaves 55 minutes per game to divide between Derkack, Hayes, Davis, Williams and Acuff. I would give Derkack 20 minutes, Hayes 18 minutes, Acuff 15 minutes, J Williams 10 minutes and JMike 8 minutes.

 

[lion1983]

Martini is not going to get 30 minutes per game ... 20-24 is more likely.

Williams is not getting just (or only) 10 minutes per game.

Currently, it does look like Derkack has carved out a leading role at this time. Acuff and Davis less so ... Hayes? Game by game, depending on how hot he is, and whether he has a good or bad day defensively (he was decent in several games earlier, but not good vs Merrimack).

Have to figure Williams gets some of Martini's projected decrease from 30 to 24 (let's say). And he and Davis get some of Acuff's projected 15 mpg ... a healthy Williams will not play less than 18 mpg. There are some games Hayes will get 20 minutes, other where he will get 10-14 minutes. If Davis plays well defensively in a game, his minutes in THAT game go up ... if he plays poorly defensively, his minutes get yanked - for that game.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

You apparently prefer offense over defense

martini probably is closer to 20 than 30
somerville is probably closer to 15 than 25

That opens up 20 minutes so now you are at 75 for your 5 players

harper 32
bailey 32
jwill 24
decack 24
martini 20
somerville 16
jamike 16
hayes 12
ogbole 12
acuff 12

10 players here....going to guess the rotation through injury or demotion goes to 9 so 12 minutes get added

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

If you want to do some pairing....
Bailey + Hayes not much over 40 until/unless PJ improves defense
Somerville + Ogbole = 30-35 minutes unless Pike gives Ace a share of the center position
Dercack + jwill + jamike= how much above 40 does Pike want to go. Any minute over 40 means 2 perimter challenged players on court

 

[lion1983]

You apparently prefer offense over defense

martini probably is closer to 20 than 30
somerville is probably closer to 15 than 25

That opens up 20 minutes so now you are at 75 for your 5 players

harper 32
bailey 32
jwill 24
decack 24
martini 20
somerville 16
jamike 16
hayes 12
ogbole 12
acuff 12

10 players here....going to guess the rotation through injury or demotion goes to 9 so 12 minutes get added

Tho different than mine, your current speculation on minutes distribution makes a lot of sense also. Hayes may end up with more minutes, on average, just because he CAN SHOOT.

Pikiell will have to figure out Acuff's role - his role is the most uncertain at this stage. I suspect Acuff gets more than 12 mg - or a lot less. If Hayes can be even adequate on defense in any one game, I would think he gets minutes at the expense of Acuff - Hayes seems like a better rebounder and we think he is a better shooter, and a dead-eye FT shooter. Unless Acuff can hit those catch and shoot 3-'s he has taken, his minutes will drop, because Williams, Derkack and Davis are all materially better defenders and rebounders - and passers - and because Hayes and Martini are better shooters ... and if Acuff is not hitting the open 3, the ball tends ot stick in his hands too much.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Based on what we see on November 21
Acuff 0

Hopefully it is shortsighted to do that at this point.

 

[RU at the shore]

I think Martini's shooting earns him big minutes

 

[seansherm]

Tho different than mine, your current speculation on minutes distribution makes a lot of sense also. Hayes may end up with more minutes, on average, just because he CAN SHOOT.

Pikiell will have to figure out Acuff's role - his role is the most uncertain at this stage. I suspect Acuff gets more than 12 mg - or a lot less. If Hayes can be even adequate on defense in any one game, I would think he gets minutes at the expense of Acuff - Hayes seems like a better rebounder and we think he is a better shooter, and a dead-eye FT shooter. Unless Acuff can hit those catch and shoot 3-'s he has taken, his minutes will drop, because Williams, Derkack and Davis are all materially better defenders and rebounders - and passers - and because Hayes and Martini are better shooters ... and if Acuff is not hitting the open 3, the ball tends ot stick in his hands too much.

Hayes is going to have to shoot more to have a big role. Right now, only Derkack and Davis take less shots per minute of playing time. He needs to shoot more than the non shooters.

 

[PhillyRU]

You apparently prefer offense over defense

martini probably is closer to 20 than 30
somerville is probably closer to 15 than 25

That opens up 20 minutes so now you are at 75 for your 5 players

harper 32
bailey 32
jwill 24
decack 24
martini 20
somerville 16
jamike 16
hayes 12
ogbole 12
acuff 12

10 players here....going to guess the rotation through injury or demotion goes to 9 so 12 minutes get added

If JMike plays more than Hayes I’m going to kms

 

[RuSnp]

Quick math shows Hayes and Martini at 50% combined from 3 on 30 combined attempts. At some point we will see them get some real time with Ace and Dylan plus.... somebody. Maybe Acuff. I'm not sure who we would defend but it would be fun to see (for a while at least).

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

If JMike plays more than Hayes I’m going to kms

not familar with what KMS means....i have a feeling you are going to kms

does k = kill?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Quick math shows Hayes and Martini at 50% combined from 3 on 30 combined attempts. At some point we will see them get some real time with Ace and Dylan plus.... somebody. Maybe Acuff. I'm not sure who we would defend but it would be fun to see (for a while at least).

not as quick math shows we are 35th in offensive efficiency and 181st in defensive efficiency right now with limited sample size. Don't be shocked if PT goes to improve the 181 and not the 35

 

[RuSnp]

not as quick math shows we are 35th in offensive efficiency and 181st in defensive efficiency right now with limited sample size. Don't be shocked if PT goes to improve the 181 and not the 35

Don't disagree and given Pike really don't disagree. But 50% is 50%.

 

[PaKnight]

Tho different than mine, your current speculation on minutes distribution makes a lot of sense also. Hayes may end up with more minutes, on average, just because he CAN SHOOT.

Pikiell will have to figure out Acuff's role - his role is the most uncertain at this stage. I suspect Acuff gets more than 12 mg - or a lot less. If Hayes can be even adequate on defense in any one game, I would think he gets minutes at the expense of Acuff - Hayes seems like a better rebounder and we think he is a better shooter, and a dead-eye FT shooter. Unless Acuff can hit those catch and shoot 3-'s he has taken, his minutes will drop, because Williams, Derkack and Davis are all materially better defenders and rebounders - and passers - and because Hayes and Martini are better shooters ... and if Acuff is not hitting the open 3, the ball tends ot stick in his hands too much.

Seeing Acuff so far this year, just seems while his foot maybe healthy he is not moving well as he showed last season, especially since it has been against comparable competition so far. Will this happen in December? January? Or never?

 

[knights1212]

Hayes & Martini are our best 3 point shooters. I feel the offense needs to get both of these guys more open 3 point attempts. Hayes often only gets 2 or 3 shots a game. Both don't have enough plays run for them. They both are working hard when they are on the floor. One game Hayes even led us in rebounds with 7. Last night he only got 14 minutes and his three was made way behind the 3 point line. These are my personal feelings.

 

[BillyC80]

Depending on matchups, I think Acuff plays at least 15 minutes as the season progresses, taking from JWill, JMike, and Dercack.

With Dylan and Ace playing 32 minutes each, I hope we can have at least one of them on the court at all times, and both in for the final 4 minutes of each half.

I think Hayes and Martini should play 20 minutes each, and should take 5 threes each if possible.

Obviously matchups, foul trouble and injuries will have something to say.

 

[Unionst]

You apparently prefer offense over defense

martini probably is closer to 20 than 30
somerville is probably closer to 15 than 25

That opens up 20 minutes so now you are at 75 for your 5 players

harper 32
bailey 32
jwill 24
decack 24
martini 20
somerville 16
jamike 16
hayes 12
ogbole 12
acuff 12

10 players here....going to guess the rotation through injury or demotion goes to 9 so 12 minutes get added

Ugh, 12 minutes for Hayes. I can give up some defense for a guy who can score 3 points half the time he shoots.

 

[Pdabs]

i think derckak played extend minutes last game because that’s his old school. I think Hayes gets more minutes going forward.

 

[RUBlackout]

Martini and Hayes need more minutes. They are guys who clearly are going to open up the game for Harper and Bailey based on their outside shooting and not having a defender play off them to double.

Those minutes need to be taken away from JWill and JMike. While both hustle out on the court they are liabilities in many ways. I see the below as where it should land. I think that Hayes, JMike, and JWill should be situational and that I would lean more towards Hayes at this point for outside shooting. so those minutes should be changed based on that. Acuff still needs time to show out.

35.00	Harper
35.00	Bailey
25.00	Jordan
20.00	Martini
20.00	Lathan
15.00	Jwill
15.00	Jmike
15.00	Hayes
10.00	Manny O
10.00	Acuff
200.00

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Pike is our coach. Our D has been, statistically, the worst in all his years. Hayes is a poor defender. Ace has limitations on D too. Ace will play, i dont think Hayes will play a lot in most game. If Fran McCaffrey was our coach Hayes would play 25+ minutes