To be fair it was a few guys who pushed that mantra, on everyone, and they haven't really been a part of this board since they left for another.
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To be fair it was a few guys who pushed that mantra, on everyone, and they haven't really been a part of this board since they left for another.
I can see that this has now become the new flavor of the week. Since everyone is now tired of hearing about how the floodites pushed everyone around on here, it has now become the handful of guys that left the board to go elsewhere.
BTW - nearly everyone liked Pollock. I can think of one guy who openly criticized the kid's ability or size for this level. I'm not sure about him being the savior but in regards to recruiting, he WAS one of our more high profile and he was very vital in keeping some of the kids committed.
All good just having some fun. Going to be along year. We lost ALL 3 starting LB's from a very, very bad D, that's all. Phil in 25-minutes!
I actually liked the kid - TALENT wise - but I simply didn't think he'd ever see the field here, for several reasons, and called it as such (then got hammered for it, as did Bobby D). No big deal, in the end, but to come out and act as if those guys didn't push the agenda with him - as they did with other things - is absurd. They did and that's fine. It is what it is, right?
Hope all is well. Enjoy the weekend Yes.
Fair enough..., just that I do know where the guys got their info and some of it was very direct from players and family. enjoy
He looks like a tough, strong player. But looking at his videos he might have been on the slow side but that could be overcome. He would have played, IMHO.
Pardon my ignorance, but how do you overcome being "on the slow side?" Speed is God-given, no?
I've actually watched people get faster through strength and agility training. The degree of improvement varies of course. But yeah, in general, people are born fast or born not fast.
If you are just talking speed, it can always be improved. That is the number one thing they work on training for combine/pro day.
JP speed was just fine...in the 4.6 range. His biggest problem may be that he would never grow in size to be a starting "B1G" LB in Ash's system and not fast enough if they wanted to move him to safety. I think he would have seen time on ST's and special defensive packages but it would have been a 3 year package.
Whereas- transfer one level down and start by year 2.
I'm pressed for time and had to read quickly. Are you saying the kid was fast enough, but that his package isn't big enough?
The Orlando Sentinel says Jim Panagos recruited Pollock for Flood. The paper apparently hasn't reported Pollock's decision to transfer, but does mention that he was originally committed to Miss. State. after his sophomore year.
Lets not be claiming Pollock is too slow.
The list of official 40 times for linebackers at the 2016 NFL Combine in Indianapolis (on another site) has only 7 LBs posting a better time than Jon's 4.66 40 time I posted earlier in this thread .
Jon Pollock might not be considered fast, but I don't think he should be given the slow label just because he's leaving.
I bet if he stayed Jon would be considered a LB with average speed .
Edit: Over 20 LBs had slower time in the 40 at that combine than Pollock's listed time, including Steve Longa
The list of official 40 times for linebackers at the 2016 NFL Combine in Indianapolis (on another site) has only 7 LBs posting a better time than Jon's 4.66 40 time I posted earlier in this thread .
Jon Pollock might not be considered fast, but I don't think he should be given the slow label just because he's leaving.
I bet if he stayed Jon would be considered a LB with average speed .
Edit: Over 20 LBs had slower time in the 40 at that combine than Pollock's listed time, including Steve Longa
A 5'10 LB that never made a D1 tackle is a terrible loss? Programs around the country push out kids that wont fit their needs. If he left or was shown the door, most likely its for the best. Seems like a good kid, good luck to him.
fyi - You quoted the wrong guy. That wasn't Real's comment he was simply responding to a ridiculous one made by another poster.
Get him in position such that explosion is needed, not speed.
Humble opinion not honest. Look at this video. He could get in trouble if he got stuck covering receivers. I like how the guy plays though, he made a bad ass hair tackle.
Just stunning how quick some people are to dump on this kid. For whatever reason it hasn't worked out for him, so let's appreciate what he did for us while he was on board and wish him the best going forward.
I'm sure the excuses for any failures will have a very familiar common component while the celebration of any triumphs will also have a common component.
again, pardon my ignorance. Explosion will help him with his first step and that will help him in reacting to a ball carrier or blocker, , but it seems to me that covering a receiver is less a matter of first-step quickness than of pure speed.
You do not get that much time to show you deserve a spot at this level.
He will find a spot somewhere else.
Along with technique, which can taught, covering a receiver is is a matter of first step quickness, balance and agility, and pure speed. Can't really be weak in any of the three areas and compete very well against truly good receivers.
Most LBs would be in trouble if they had to cover WRs one on one, but Pollock's height adds to that disadvantage.
Agree with this...he didnt look much different then any other LB trying to cover a WR except for the height. You can also see where he would get beat on the first few steps but then he usually recovered nicely and put himself into position to make a play. Looks like someone who can play and could be taught technique plus recognize plays. I always thought he would take a few years, start out on ST's, where I think he would excel and then move into playing time in certain packages. Dont think he would be a 3 play LB in the B1G but could contribute.
I just don't think he fits Ash's model so he transfers.
LB isnt really an "explosion" position. I see WR/RB's and positions on the OL/DL as the true explosion positions.
I see his height and I compare him to Mark Fossati who I think could have played D1 FBS football if not for being 5'10". He was exposed in one of the Non-Public State games where the QB threw right over his head multiple times including the game winning TD.
I guess you need to be a legit 6'1" to be an FBS-caliber LB?
I guess you need to be a legit 6'1" to be an FBS-caliber LB?
Face it. He owes us no reason or explanation for this transferring. Let it go and stop pandering for a reason.
Looking at the B1G 3 rosters of tOSU, Michigan State and MIchigan, the first teach each have a single player listed at 6'0".
MIchigan is interesting. Alex Kaminski is 5'10" but he has not seen game action. Dante Mauricio is 5'11" and he is a Sophomore who has not seen game action.
PSU has a LB at 5'9", but he is a freshman/sophomore. Von Walker if 5'11" and has played quite a bit.
I believe Ronnie James got an Ohio State offer or were very close to offering.
Could have been an uncommittable offer, I remember a Buckeye fan posting here said one of the RU commits received that when it was brought up the kid had an offer from Ohio St before committing to RU.
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