Okay ,but where are the points coming from next season ?The loss of Bailey and Harper alone is 38 less points.I’d rather pay a tough defensive minded big who can give us 7-10 ppg than Somerville who will score double digits next year but is the worst help defender I’ve seen in a long time.
I’d rather pay a tough defensive minded big who can give us 7-10 ppg than Somerville who will score double digits next year but is the worst help defender I’ve seen in a long time.
Okay ,but where are the points coming from next season ?The loss of Bailey and Harper alone is 38 less points.
Mark and Nwuli should play big minutes and give us 18-19 ppg together. Grant takes a natural step forward from 6 ppg to 12 ppg. Thats 24-25 right there. Need to find a true 2 in the portal to get us 11-12 ppg and we’re right there.Okay ,but where are the points coming from next season ?The loss of Bailey and Harper alone is 38 less points.
Mark and Nwuli should play big minutes and give us 18-19 ppg together. Grant takes a natural step forward from 6 ppg to 12 ppg. Thats 24-25 right there. Need to find a true 2 in the portal to get us 11-12 ppg and we’re right there.
Need to keep all - age plays a big part as well as playing in Pikes system.
This board has the strangest revisionist history with Geo. His percentages weren’t great because he took loads of tough shots, but how many big time down the stretch shots does a guy need to make to be considered a great shooter?Pike can’t afford to think this way. He has to go back to the philsophy that brought him success which was defense first.
JY, Geo, Caleb, Tez, Mag, MJ - none of these guys were great shooters. They played tough nosed D. If we can find a Yeboah who shoots a little - great. But we can’t ride with poor defenders. That’ll be a losing strategy for Pike IMO. We might not win anyway but our strategy can’t be hoping Latham can outscore everyone. There’s close to zero chance that works.
We should, in my opinion, hope for a defense like 2023-24 absent the historically poor offense that couldn’t finish bunny lay ups.
Might mean they expect Lathan to be gone…as do I.In my opinion, who we land this year is going to be more important than who we keep.
The scouting report seems to indicate that Lathan and Ware are replicas of eachother style wise. That’s a big concern.
We can't have a complete roster turnover.We don’t have to keep anyone. There are players that do what our players do literally on every team in the country. Landing them and knowing what to do with them are separate issues.
I am really on the fence with this one. Leaning towards keeping guys who really want to be here at a fair price. Anyone else doesn't get a strong pitch.We can't have a complete roster turnover.
You need some sense of continuity for a core group to know what's expected and Pikes defense. Trying to get a whole new set of players bought in & understanding takes the season to hit their stride and by then itay be too late.
Pike can’t afford to think this way. He has to go back to the philsophy that brought him success which was defense first.
JY, Geo, Caleb, Tez, Mag, MJ - none of these guys were great shooters. They played tough nosed D. If we can find a Yeboah who shoots a little - great. But we can’t ride with poor defenders. That’ll be a losing strategy for Pike IMO. We might not win anyway but our strategy can’t be hoping Latham can outscore everyone. There’s close to zero chance that works.
We should, in my opinion, hope for a defense like 2023-24 absent the historically poor offense that couldn’t finish bunny lay ups.
I am really on the fence with this one. Leaning towards keeping guys who really want to be here at a fair price. Anyone else doesn't get a strong pitch.
I am currently on the fence renewing my tickets and watching college basketball. Somerville staying will make my decision to bolt easier. I am a hypocrite. I am so turned off watching all these teams with all new faces every year. I have watched 15 minutes so far of the tournament. However I am saying I can't watch most of our current team returning.
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That is interesting – – I remember reading just the opposite — that Ware is more of a physical presence, but does not have the ball skills that Somerville has.In my opinion, who we land this year is going to be more important than who we keep.
The scouting report seems to indicate that Lathan and Ware are replicas of eachother style wise. That’s a big concern.
Dumb. However I wouldn't be opposed to JWill and JaMike coming back for peanuts provided every other perimeter player expected to be in the rotation were shooters.Keeping guys is fine.
But it has to be the right role.
Keeping JWill, Derkack and Davis as starters/significant contributors is pointless.
How did it work out with just handing JWill a starting off ball role this year?
If any of the freshman are pure PGs and are ready to play now my answer changesDumb. However I wouldn't be opposed to JWill and JaMike coming back for peanuts provided every other perimeter player expected to be in the rotation were shooters.
JWill off the ball was a recipe for disaster.
I am pretty sure Lino mark is a PG. Whether he is ready for P5 level starting position, I have no idea.If any of the freshman are pure PGs and are ready to play now my answer changes
I think that’s a safe bet. We also need a lot more money, apparently. But look at it this way, we’ll at least get to keep the freshman who aren’t any good for the following season.So we are not following the St. Johns blueprint for success …
Agree with all of this except I’d be more than perfectly fine if JMike leaves.I want to keep J Mike and Lathan. J Will can walk. Ogbole can walk (no one is taking him). Lathan you hope his defense and toughness will improve and it should. Because he would score 10 but allow 14. That doesn't help.
We have a bunch of bench players. This portal season needs to be a huge success or Pike is toast in 12 months.
The assumption you make about Lino Mark and Nwuli and their scoring may be through scarlet colored glasses. 18-19 ppg is a lot to expect from two freshman, that could easily be 11-12 ppg as they are both Freshman, who need to learn Pike’s defense and then execute Pike’s defense in order to stay on the floor. This year gave us an example of players struggling to execute Pike’s defense. I am hoping for the best, but reality tells me that a Freshman will have their ups and downs, which may impact their minutes out on their floor which then impacts their ppg. JMike likely ahead of Lino Mark if he is back next year as Pike gets back to his true defensive identity next year with a player who is in his 3rd year in his system.Mark and Nwuli should play big minutes and give us 18-19 ppg together. Grant takes a natural step forward from 6 ppg to 12 ppg. Thats 24-25 right there. Need to find a true 2 in the portal to get us 11-12 ppg and we’re right there.
Get ready! Expect them all to walk.Man, I hope it’s not a bloodbath for us again, we gotta keep Grant, Dortch, Sommerville.
Pike cannot think just defense. His job is to think offense, defense , rebounding ,,athleticism and high IQ players. You don’t make a team just focusing on defense. We need 2 guard scorers that are 2 way players and a solid rim protector that can back up Lathan. Lathan really came on the last 10 games of his freshman year. He is only going to get better defensively , hitting his mid range and hitting a 3,, and going straight up without hestitation when he is close to the hoop. Just focusing on defense without any offense is a losing formula and even worse on this offensive era. Stop shoving Lathan out the door. He should be a priority retention period.Pike can’t afford to think this way. He has to go back to the philsophy that brought him success which was defense first.
JY, Geo, Caleb, Tez, Mag, MJ - none of these guys were great shooters. They played tough nosed D. If we can find a Yeboah who shoots a little - great. But we can’t ride with poor defenders. That’ll be a losing strategy for Pike IMO. We might not win anyway but our strategy can’t be hoping Latham can outscore everyone. There’s close to zero chance that works.
We should, in my opinion, hope for a defense like 2023-24 absent the historically poor offense that couldn’t finish bunny lay ups.
Yeah, these next 4 weeks probably determine pike's fate at RU. While I think he definitely gets 2 more years, if he flops in the portal this next month, he'll be walking into the 2026-2027 as a coach everyone knows will be fired.I want to keep J Mike and Lathan. J Will can walk. Ogbole can walk (no one is taking him). Lathan you hope his defense and toughness will improve and it should. Because he would score 10 but allow 14. That doesn't help.
We have a bunch of bench players. This portal season needs to be a huge success or Pike is toast in 12 months.